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Legend [16460]
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Spent the past week visiting Louisville on business and I
Sep 30, 2016, 11:43 PM
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have to say that there's not a lot of pomposity going on up there as I expected.
Callers on sports talk shows were optimistic on their chances but mostly respectful, and hosts also were quick to quell negative comments, especially DW4's "L" hand signs that had some fans in a tizzy, explaining the backstory on the recently deceased artist and deflecting away from an outward Louisville challenge.
There was also a humorous exchange on how, despite how easy it should be to dis on an outspoken coach like he is, they couldn't help but really like Dabo and his genuine nature. They talked about wanting to hate on him, but they just couldn't do it. Deep down, they seem to feel like he's one of the good guys doing things the right way, and they know they're in for a helluva fight.
Sporting the paw hat when I could, there was nothing but good-natured ribbing. Very happy to have traded out Maryland for Louisville. Big time win for the ACC, and Clemson, on this one.
Go Tigers! TCB!
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All-In [36450]
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Academics not on an ACC level...
Sep 30, 2016, 11:46 PM
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Which is kinda the whole point of a University and conference affiliation. To educate.
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110%er [8097]
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Agree. Louisville's Academics are the lowest in ACC.
Sep 30, 2016, 11:58 PM
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might even be below some SEC schools. Okay, Mississippi State and Arkansas might be lower.
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Legend [16460]
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I actually spent quite a bit of time working with several
Oct 1, 2016, 12:18 AM
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Louisville grads. I didn't see a lick of difference between their smarts and the many Clemson folk I spend time with at home in SC. I don't buy into that kind of elitist talk. Not every school is a Harvard or Yale, including Clemson. You get out of a college education what you put into it, wherever that might be. I also spend a lot of time working with many highly successful and intelligent folks who don't have college degrees - their degrees are from schools of hard knocks. Many a diehard Clemson fan I know also never set foot in a Clemson classroom. They are my orange brothers and sisters just the same.
Athletic conferences are just that - athletic conferences. Conference affiliations don't educate - an individual's desire to expand their mind is what educates. Geesh.
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Orange Blooded [3523]
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####, man.. That's a great post. TU.***
Oct 1, 2016, 12:20 AM
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Re: nice post, but
Oct 1, 2016, 6:44 AM
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Who cares ?????
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we care chucklehead!
Oct 1, 2016, 9:54 AM
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That (this post) is what a fan forum 'is'!
(since you seem to be a tad slow, let me further simplify and say we like to share info AND discuss our Tigers and their opponents)
If you don't want to hear it, just leave.
Dipstick!
GO TIGERS!!!!
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"Dipstick"... +1***
Oct 1, 2016, 9:56 AM
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Orange Blooded [2783]
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That's very true about choosing what you get out of school
Oct 1, 2016, 7:28 AM
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I know some real idiots who graduated from GaTech. I think they're overall academics aren't as high as the other schools. This may get better over time, especially if they feel any kind of peer pressure.
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there are.........***
Oct 1, 2016, 7:47 AM
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Re: I hear their are some UNC grads that have never seen a class
Oct 1, 2016, 9:21 AM
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Louisville has had a few incarnations as a University. A small private school for centuries (established in 1798), it was the first city-owned public university in the US as well as the first chartered university west of the Alleghenies. In that light, as a private metropolitan research institute, they produced some truly excellent results in Medical Science - the first self-contained artificial heart transplant surgery - the world-famous crackerjack team on call 24/7 to reattach severed limbs in accidents. The ambulance and the ER were essentially invented there and it had the nation's first-ever blood bank. Medically, UofL has an outstanding reputation and always has. Along with the excellent Bradeis School of Law producing no end of arsehole lawyers, lol, they also have an engineering program of intense involvement and accomplishment in the Speed School of Engineering.
Otherwise, much of the university has tended to suffer from almost predictable urban problems. They sadly lost the race to remain independent following the 60's and 70's, hemorrhaging money and got bailed out with the aid of the Kentucky legislature, a Faustian bargain which was designed to favor athletic rival and big time local hater, UK. Professorships were lost, grant money died out and the urge of the Kentucky legislature to render it an adjunct of UK nearly won the day - we were very nearly The University of Kentucky @ Louisville, lol. Gag me with a spoon.
But a series of forward-thinking Presidents realized they had a local factor which could redound much in the favor of the University. Louisville has a large corporate culture. From Humana to KFC/now Yum!Brands, the central and world HQ hub of UPS, all Ford Truck manufacturing, banking and Insurance centers, Louisville is the engine of the state wide economy. An incredibly devoted alumni base began donating in successively larger and larger amounts until a critical mass of sheer independence was earned. $1.1 Billion in campus improvements and physical plant additions have been added since 2002, making the campus far prettier and actually architecturally interesting. A new paradigm was also set, demanding a frank increase in scholastics and a lessening of the urban mission, tresnding more towards a true research university. The local corporate culture has deeply invested in this as well - another Billion dollar research park is well beyond the planning phase and will house university and corporate partnerships with the local groups.
The visionary AD, Tom Jurich, decided to reach for academic improvement in sports as well. The alternative would be to languish in sub par conferences. He aimed at the top. It was sort of insane, really, at the time, the pretensions of this urge to compete at the highest levels. But the combination of excellent fund raising on the part of President Ramsay and Jurich, combined with their vision in athletics, has turned the entire University on its ear. Currently, Louisville's profile is decidedly up. Qualifying ACT scores are 25% higher than 15 years ago, more doctorates and advanced degrees offered and accepted, a record number of Fullbright Scholars yearly, currently more than all the combined colleges in Kentucky put together.
The effort towards improving the academic profile is a work in progress, but it is definitely moving. I hope this helps a little in that light.
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Re: I actually spent quite a bit of time working with several
Oct 1, 2016, 7:39 AM
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When I was young I did not take advantage of time at Clemson, I played around. Education will open doors and give you opportunities, but once you walk through that door it is up to you to exceed expectations. Fortunately for me, when I decided to get serious about life, the good lord blessed me with opportunities. Success is measured many ways. Having a great family has always been my goal. Having an education does not guarantee success.
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Yeah...and Harvard and Yale ain't Clemson...William
Oct 1, 2016, 7:51 AM
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F. Buckley said the had rather take the first hundred names out of the Boston telephone directory and have them run this country than the faculty at Harvard.....amen!
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Re: Yeah...and Harvard and Yale ain't Clemson...William
Oct 2, 2016, 10:13 PM
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agree with you 100%,but his actual remark is that he would rather be governed by the 1st 2000 people in the boston phone book then the 2000 members of the harvard faculty.i went to grad school in boston and had a goodly number of ivy league people as classmates.they were no better prepared than I was coming from CU.success doesn't automatically follow getting a degree.common sense is a much more valuable commodity in the real world.just an aside-i delivered buckley's mail in stamford,ct while employed as summer help back in the early 70's.sadly never did get to meet him though.
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Re: I actually spent quite a bit of time working with several
Oct 1, 2016, 11:56 AM
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Teaching on the college level in S.C. I can attest to the post about education. Some students feel entitled and want everything handed to them, but many if not most recognize they have to earn whatever they desire in school and life.
Go Tigers!
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Education is in the heart of the student not the University.
Oct 1, 2016, 12:16 PM
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We select better students and cull through those who fail to have the spirit of being educated in their hearts. Clemson's demand for more progress in the classroom and study habits are much greater.
That does not mean that all UL's grad were not good students and intelligent professionals but UL's standards are not as our's. They do not demand excellence in academics as does Clemson. Anecdotal evidence * is not sufficient to compare the basic difference in the academics between Clemson and Louisville nor the difference in quality of education each school's average student receives.
For the average UL student:
* Anecdotal evidence is evidence from anecdotes. Where only one or a few anecdotes ** are presented, there is a larger chance that they may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representative samples of typical cases.
** an·ec·dote ? an?k?d?t/ noun plural noun: anecdotes a short and amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person. "told anecdotes about his job" synonyms: story, tale, narrative, incident;
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Re: Education is in the heart of the student not the University.
Oct 2, 2016, 10:16 PM
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you can get a great education at a no name school and a lousy education at a big name school.like you said it's all in the heart of the student.
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Clemson wasn't even recognized as a University...
Oct 1, 2016, 8:27 AM
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until the mid-60s & entered into the ACC as Clemson Agricultural College.
It took all of a hall pass to get into Clemson until recently.
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UNC kind of killed that whole academic standard thing
Oct 1, 2016, 1:04 PM
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You can not get worse than not going to class.
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It's all fun and games until you drive off on a motorcycle
Sep 30, 2016, 11:50 PM
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with a cute volleyball player then see how much they like you.
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Re: Spent the past week visiting Louisville on business and I
Oct 1, 2016, 12:56 AM
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If we do play our best game of the season this Saturday, and if we were to be capable of blowing those woodpeckers out, I do not want to see that kind of game. If we were to beat Louie for more than 2 TDs, the national media would be screaming that Louie wasn't that good and that it was a fluke win over FSU just to degrade our win and tell how FSU would be making up for their loss to louie with us. I think that most of us know by now that if we was to win the NC 4 years in a row, the media would come up with some reason why it was the teams we played fault. And we shouldn't have won bc of this or that. I just hope it's a good game with us winning by 10!!!
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Re: Spent the past week visiting Louisville on business and I
Oct 1, 2016, 1:00 PM
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I would love for us to blow them out. Who cares what others think
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Orange Blooded [3919]
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Not sure how ANYONE from Louisville can diss our Dabo
Oct 1, 2016, 2:08 AM
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for just about anything. I get you were saying they were basically being nice, but of almost any coach in the USA, Dabo and Petrino could NOT be more polar opposite *people*, and I'm sure Dabo is ok with that. I am, too. Thank you for the insight...interesting to hear their perspectives. +1
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Happy to include UofL, but wish UMD had stay the course.
Oct 1, 2016, 8:37 AM
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It was tough saying goodbye to a founding member, at least for me.
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All-In [28740]
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screw em
Oct 1, 2016, 9:58 AM
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they're getting ready to get throttled
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My cousin lives up there and loves it, class act bunch of fans***
Oct 1, 2016, 11:45 AM
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