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LSU D
Dec 29, 2019, 10:14 PM
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going into the season D was expected to be great:
DL was picked as #3 nation, 8 man rotation to keep 3 fresh
4 LBs on the Butkus list (of 51)
returning SS unanimous AA, projected 1st rd draft preseason AA CB, projected 1st rd preseason CB national Fr of the year excellent FS NS runs 10.07 & hits
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First game D looked that good, then things didn't go well, many injuries in game 2. With Top Ten teams scattered thru the schedule the walking wounded had to play and weren't getting well. Some didn't play. At least 1 suspended 6 games.
Opponents gained yds and scored. Efficiency wasn't that bad, O was scoring so fast the D was on the field too much.
Games 10 & 11 were OM and Ark, regulars were able to rest or play little while Fr got experience.
Game 12, Tamu, then UGA and OU, the D was well and played lights out. Each was held 200+ yds below season avg.
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Those DBs are the strength. The old CB was avoided, threw at the Fr who made AA CB. old CB still projected 1st rd SS won the Thorpe FS out early for season, his replacement was All-SEC NS improved a bunch TOTAL of 4 All-SEC DBs.
one OLB made AA, opposite OLB has been out but returns now other LBs played well
8 rotating DL got little notice altho a DE was all-sec, good but not Clem '18 good
Stremgtj pf DL is at NG, 2 rotate and must be dbl teamed. they jam up the middle and push the pocket back. Hurts was unable to step up in the pocket.
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DC Aranda is excellent,turned down $3mil/yr to stay at LSU.
D comes from all directions. Able to leave CB single cover, anybody can blitz and anybody can drop. As peeps got well, heat got turned up. TL will have company.
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Note this is not an argument or a comparison, is simply informing what LSU has and what to expect.
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We’re doomed.***
Dec 29, 2019, 10:20 PM
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LSD U
Dec 30, 2019, 1:03 AM
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You trippin’ dude?
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Re: LSU D
Dec 29, 2019, 10:22 PM
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We will try our best to hold it together.....????????
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Re: Is 29th, no matter how you spin it Princess
Dec 29, 2019, 10:58 PM
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Clemson’s ranking is a but inflated considering the depth of the ACC
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meanwhile ohio state could only muster 22
Dec 29, 2019, 11:09 PM
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against this defense that is inflated by the acc
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Re: Is 29th, no matter how you spin it Princess
Dec 29, 2019, 11:22 PM
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Clemson’s ranking is a but inflated considering the depth of the ACC
Clemson's rating would be much better, except that the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th position players logged significant minutes in most games. In almost ALL games 2nd and 3rd team defenders played significantly b4 the end of the first half. Generally, the 4Q was manned by 3rd and 4th teams.
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Re: LSU D
Dec 29, 2019, 10:29 PM
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Your screen name is a little....uh.....peculiar.
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Re: LSU D
Dec 29, 2019, 10:34 PM
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LSU's D is very good. I think to many folks read into Ol'Miss (hey, we had our Coot 35 point game last year). Should be interesting as I think both teams were built to beat Tua-like team to a lesser extent and OSU was a tricky challenge for our D since we are not geared to a Dobbins having a stellar game. They took what we gave them and then we slowed that down. Your defense is much better in the RZ than the overall stats suggest so that shows a lot more prevent D and you match us on the 3rd down D.
But here is your issue... tackles for loss. LSU forces very few of these. (UNC forced more). OSU was able to limit our O by creating 3rd and 19 scenarios. They were ranked 2nd nationally and did it for a while to us. Penetration stopped ETN as much as anything.
I honestly thought OU was going to give you more of a hard time but y'all found that extra gear and they folded. I thought OU was going to be prepared for more of a run-and-gun but that just isnt Jalen.
That being said, BV's defense is designed to prevent passing "over" our defenders. Should be fun to see BV dail up some D because every single "unflappable" QB became mortal... and I think Simmons is going to that X factor that your offense has not seen. Borrow definitely slings it with total faith in his WR, either that will make him epic or become a liability. That is what doomed Tua last year.
Our offense is designed to knife through a defense (not over the top). And we faced the best defense outside of South Carolina.
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Re: LSU D
Dec 29, 2019, 10:47 PM
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Speaking of X Factors, it would be nice for XT to explode now.
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Re: LSU D
Dec 29, 2019, 11:03 PM
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That would be epic... someone always shows up with that was having a under-the-radar season in our natties
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4 LBs on the Butkus list...and a Clemson guy won it.
Dec 29, 2019, 11:00 PM
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LOL.
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Re: LSU D - this is really cool of you. Thanks. Hopefully
Dec 29, 2019, 11:02 PM
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the game will be competitive. Will be fun to watch these guys square off. Coach O is my favorite coach in the country behind Dabo.
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Re: LSU D
Dec 29, 2019, 11:23 PM
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Clemson fans are delusional. LSU’s defense held Texas A&M to fewer points than Clemson.
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Lol, this is rich***
Dec 30, 2019, 12:57 AM
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Re: LSU D
Dec 30, 2019, 1:13 AM
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Breaux, you know teams get better throughout the year right?
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Re: LSU D
Dec 30, 2019, 1:12 PM
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Corn Dog Breaux, chillax and go back to making your parents proud. You don't have anything better than trolling... The Bayou is calling. There is an alligator waiting to have congress wicha sissa. Go home boi…...Roll around in some hot boudain to improve your aroma.
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Re: LSU D
Dec 29, 2019, 11:23 PM
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Clemson fans are delusional. LSU’s defense held Texas A&M to fewer points than Clemson.
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Re: LSU D
Dec 29, 2019, 11:23 PM
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Clemson fans are delusional. LSU’s defense held Texas A&M to fewer points than Clemson.
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Re: LSU D
Dec 30, 2019, 12:26 AM
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Lol only if you count a last 6 seconds of the game TD. Clemson held A&M to a FG for 59:54 of the game, FYI. But you can let a garbage time TD drive against backups skew things for you if you want.
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Re: LSU D
Dec 29, 2019, 11:24 PM
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Clemson fans are delusional. LSU’s defense held Texas A&M to fewer points than Clemson.
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And bowl-less Ole Miss put up 40+
Dec 29, 2019, 11:26 PM
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Vandy put up 38
Auburn held you to 23 at home
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Re: LSU D
Dec 29, 2019, 11:48 PM
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Hard to be delusional when you win every big game thrown your way that you were supposed to lose
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Re: LSU D
Dec 29, 2019, 11:37 PM
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Don't worry...we know how to look up the D stats....including the opponent adjusted SP+ version: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/feidef/20192019 DFEI Defense Ratings (through Week 16) https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaadl/2019through games of Saturday, 12/7/19 Pulling the ideas mostly from Football Outsiders’ NFL stats, below are the following defensive line stats for each of FBS' 130 schools. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28251219/sp+-rankings-conference-championship-games
SP+:
Scoring Defense: Clemson #1, LSU #28 https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/28
Total Defense: Clemson #3, LSU #29 https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22
Rushing Defense: Clemson #16, LSU #22 https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/24
Team Passing Efficiency Defense: Clemson #1, LSU #8 https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/40
Passes Intercepted: Clemson #2, LSU #7 https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/457
Team Sacks: Clemson #18, LSU #44 https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/466
Team Tackles For Loss: Clemson #9, LSU #47 https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/467
Passing Yards Allowed: Clemson #1, LSU #55 https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/695
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Re: LSU D
Dec 30, 2019, 1:00 AM
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Stopped reading after LSU and D. That’s funny right there.***
Dec 29, 2019, 11:49 PM
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Re: Stopped reading after LSU and D. That’s funny right there.***
Dec 30, 2019, 12:38 AM
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Yep ... some words just don’t belong in the same sentence !! -">
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Ok - that’s it ... I’m out ... no need for team to even go .
Dec 30, 2019, 12:35 AM
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... to Nawlins !! -">
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I'm sure all you c/p there made some stat lovers explode.
Dec 30, 2019, 12:48 AM
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But I've actually watched your 3 big games. Aub, Bama, and UGA and none of those teams comes close to what your LSU Defense is going to face when Clemson comes to town. Honestly it's like y'all just think Clemson is what the media tells you we are. Which is fine. Makes beating the other "UNBEATABLES" more rewarding for us.
Now you'd be better off throwing your LSU O stats around. You have a heckuva playmaker who gets the ball to your pedestrian support players. I mean as long as they can play pitch and catch that is. BUT your O has not faced a D like a Brent Venables D! Your LSWHOO is in for a long night.
Note this is not an argument or a comparison, is simply informing what LSU can expect.
Later Stat Princess.
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Re: I'm sure all you c/p there made some stat lovers explode.
Dec 30, 2019, 11:28 AM
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Lol - feralty ... this is a necessary PSA for the OP and and his ilk !! Well done !! -">
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Re: I'm sure all you c/p there made some stat lovers explode.
Dec 30, 2019, 12:53 PM
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I beg to differ. Georgia's defense is very comparable to what LSU will face in Clemson. While Clemson has a better pass rush, Georgia was filthy against the run and LSU manhandled them
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Re: LSU D
Dec 30, 2019, 1:12 AM
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This just makes me sad next year is Aranda's last year. He's a very close second to Brent V.
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Re: LSU D
Dec 30, 2019, 1:05 PM
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My bad mattcah.
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Thanks for the breakdown. I enjoyed reading this post***
Dec 30, 2019, 12:49 PM
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why are people this way?
Dec 30, 2019, 1:01 PM
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this is supposed to convince people to......what?
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psybj
Dec 30, 2019, 1:22 PM
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Your ok fair enough post your D is on the upswing . Im not sure about this Jones guy though .
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