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Unbelievable
Nov 12, 2013, 9:47 AM
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Wearing my Tiger sweatshirt & was just stopped and man said, " you won't be wearing that shirt after Thursday!" I thought for sure it was a coot fan from cooterville... To my shock & disbelief he said " nope, I'm a Duck," my reply well, I'm not a fan of any "fowl" teams! Chickens, Hokies, or Ducks!! Go Tigers!!!! Lets dominate those BEES!!
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Re: Unbelievable
Nov 12, 2013, 9:50 AM
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Did you ask him if he owned a Stanford sweatshirt since they were the best west coast team?
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COrrect response would have been . . .
Nov 12, 2013, 9:50 AM
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"I know, cause your wife will be washing it for me for next week."
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Wonder what the Ducks might be thinking of a showdown with
Nov 12, 2013, 9:51 AM
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us in a BCS bowl?
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Probably thinking of hanging 70 again
Nov 12, 2013, 9:55 AM
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In all honesty we may be able to beat them but I think it takes a certain team like a Stanford and Bama to beat Oregon. You have to run the ball and be able to pound out first downs and keep the clock moving.
If we played Oregon Saturday on a neutral field I think it will be hard for us to hold them under 45.
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Legend [19208]
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Sorry, we are not Tennessee. We would give then a heck
Nov 12, 2013, 9:57 AM
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of a better game than you imagine.
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Orange Blooded [2227]
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Maybe so but I am willing to bet the line would be +12-17***
Nov 12, 2013, 11:00 AM
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Auburn
Nov 12, 2013, 10:08 AM
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Auburn held them to 19 points a few years ago I believe. That was a terrible Auburn defense who only had a dominant DT. I would say Grady Jarrett is not to terribly far from Fairley but the rest of our defense is much better than theirs was. Auburn also played very poorly on offense that game, so it's not like they never let Oregon have the ball.
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Orange Blooded [2227]
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If we gave up 51 to FSU and 35 to UGA
Nov 12, 2013, 10:58 AM
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Giving up 45 to one of the best offenses in the country would probably happen
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How much would we score? 38? 59?***
Nov 12, 2013, 10:59 AM
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Orange Blooded [2227]
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Probably around 30....your point?
Nov 12, 2013, 11:02 AM
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Take off the orange colord glasses for a second.
Look at match ups. We do not match up well with Oregon. They have lost 2 games the past 2 years to the same team with the same style offense.
Teams that can run the ball and control the clock can beat oregon.
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Legend [19208]
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Take off your Clemson is woe and sorry glasses. We have
Nov 12, 2013, 11:03 AM
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more play makers than you are willing to give the Tigers their due.
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Orange Blooded [2227]
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I like the rah rah speech however I try to look at things on
Nov 12, 2013, 11:05 AM
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the field and in game match ups. I am willing to bet the boys in Vegas would think that a match up with us and Oregon is in their favor.
Can we win? Sure. Are we going to be favored to win? No way. It is not a good match up.
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We will see if we get that match-up Oregon may lose another
Nov 12, 2013, 11:07 AM
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and drop out of the discussion.
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Orange Blooded [2227]
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If we are good enough to beat Oregon then we
Nov 12, 2013, 11:08 AM
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should definitely be good enough to beat S.Carolina who lost to Tenn.
But yes I agree, it may be a moot point if we don't take care of business.
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Much better? That seems a bit of a stretch for a team that
Nov 12, 2013, 11:03 AM
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averages 52 points per game.
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All-TigerNet [11478]
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I didn't say much better but better
Nov 12, 2013, 11:08 AM
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While Oregon has faster running backs, I would bet that is the only advantage they have over FSU on offense. FSU has better WR and O line. I will say the QBs are a push even though I think Winston is a little better (Mariota was passing at right around 50% completions after 2 or 3 games). I will also say (and most will disagree) that the RB position is pretty even and probably goes to FSU as well. They aren't as fast but are better overall players.
So where is my observation so far off?
And by the way we all know FSU has a better defense.
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With that said, FSU put up 51 points in DV
Nov 12, 2013, 11:11 AM
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Going back to my previous statement. I think it will be hard for us to hold Oregon under 45. I just don't like the matchup.
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All-TigerNet [11478]
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You haven't said where you don't like the match up
Nov 12, 2013, 11:16 AM
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I don't see all the mismatches. They do not have the tall WR that hurt us against FSU. Their QB is less accurate on underneath balls. Their O line will not stop our penetration like FSU's did at times.
You forget that we handed FSU 21 of those 51 points with our offense.
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Orange Blooded [2227]
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FSU also took out their starters up 51-7
Nov 12, 2013, 11:31 AM
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and had over 550 yards. 450 of which came thorugh the air.
One huge mis match would be our DBs VS Josh Hugg and Bralon Addison. The thought of darius robinson guarding either of those guys makes me cringe.
Another big mismatch for us would be having to defend the first running QB we have seen of the year outside of GT and USC. Mariota averages 9 yards a carry.
It is not a big surprise, we are weak at DB and teams with good WR's will take advantage.
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huff***
Nov 12, 2013, 11:33 AM
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All-TigerNet [11478]
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How does when FSU took their starters out matter?
Nov 12, 2013, 11:39 AM
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My point is we gave them almost half of their points. Take away the points our offense gave them and they are sitting in that 30-35 range that UGA got.
FSU was a pass first team against us. They are against many people. They use the run to finish games. Oregon is the opposite. They want to run the ball first to set up the pass. This sets up better for us. UVA QB was a runner also. So that would be 3 of our last 4 QBs faced being runners leading up to the bowl game. That's hardly unprepared. We are strong in the front 7 and they are a run first team. It's hardly one of our worst match-ups this season.
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If we play Oregon..
Nov 12, 2013, 12:02 PM
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Don't be shocked when the point spread comes out and the ducks are a 10-17 point favorite and the over/under is above 72.
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Our lack of confidence amazes me
Nov 12, 2013, 10:12 AM
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Strong enough O line? Their D line averages about 250 pounds. Not exactly bruisers.
And I am not saying we will hold them to 13 points on offense like Stanford did but our defense isn't exactly terrible like Auburn was a couple years ago when they shut them down in the NC game.
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Wow dude... usually I feel you and I are on the same page
Nov 12, 2013, 10:21 AM
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but seriously? Oregon is not a world beater. Yes thy are quick, but our DLine is very good. I think it would be a high scoring game, but we could hang. Standford's Dline is probably better than ours but otherwise I think we are a pretty even team.
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Stanford's OL is far better than Clemson's IMO.
Nov 12, 2013, 11:03 AM
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I didn't say the DL wasn't good. I said they don't get a consistent pass rush.
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Re: Stanford's OL is far better than Clemson's IMO.
Nov 12, 2013, 11:10 AM
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Oregon is a run first offense. You see how off they were when Stanford forced them to pass.
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So you think our pass rush has been consistently good....
Nov 12, 2013, 11:32 AM
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all season?
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"consistently good" yes.
Nov 12, 2013, 11:44 AM
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Only bad game i've seen was vs. FSU and they're stout OLine. Georgia had a pretty veteran Oline and we handled it. That's 1-1 vs. elite offensive lines.
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Re: Clemson 59 Virginia 10 Oregon 59 Virginia 10
Nov 12, 2013, 10:22 AM
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I didn't see the quack and V game, but in our game with V. The td they got was a they got away on one play. Other than that, our D shut them down.
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They traveled across the country to play UVA. If the game
Nov 12, 2013, 10:34 AM
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was as close to Oregon as it is to Clemson, Oregon would have RUTS a bit more, I believe. It's not like jet lag has no effect on teams. Around 75% of teams in the NFL traveling coast to coast lose the games.
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All-TigerNet [11478]
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You mean like
Nov 12, 2013, 10:37 AM
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if they came to the Orange Bowl?
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The only problem with your assessment
Nov 12, 2013, 10:42 AM
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is that they would have a whole week to adjust to the time schedule for the Orange Bowl, not 1 day.
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So their beat down of Tennessee was caused by this?
Nov 12, 2013, 10:51 AM
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The Vols would have put up a better show if they had not had to travel?
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Idunno. It's all specualtion at this point anyhow.
Nov 12, 2013, 10:56 AM
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Hope Clemson gets to face the Ducks. I'd like to see that.
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lol..my response would be
Nov 12, 2013, 10:30 AM
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"why? Would you not wear your gear after a loss? What kind of are you?"
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Re: lol..my response would be
Nov 12, 2013, 10:44 AM
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Exactly! He's still telling people he's a Duck fan after a spanking from Stanford! Whatever dude. He's an idiot and I'm a CLEMSON TIGER!
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Ironically...
Nov 12, 2013, 10:58 AM
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You had to pry it out of him that he was a Duck. You should have responded "Guess that it explains why I had to ask you...you lost yours after Saturday night".
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