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Opinions on the FSU debacle and state of CFB
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Dec 31, 2023, 9:31 AM
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FSU was pathetic, and expected. I listened to ACC Huddle and the guys were praising players that stayed and praising players that opted out or transferred. Am I the only one here that just sees a bunch of selfish athletes looking out for themselves? I get it. Players have more control of their livelihood now. I support that but an I just an old schooler that believes commitment means commitment? You can't say "I'm committed to XYZ University and a year or two later say it again to another program. That's not commitment. That's contract. I get a kid looking out for his families livelihood with the big bucks on the line but what we all witnessed with FSU having most of their production skipping the Orange Bowl for whatever their reasonings ...to me....just isn't good for college football. I know it's a "new era" and all that BS but virtues mean something. Commitment means something! In watching the Kansas St/NC St ...I witnessed Cooper Beebe. O linemen for K St. 2 time All American. Likely a 2nd to 3rd round guy. One of the best O linemen in this draft class. He played his final bowl game. Saying hey I came in with my guys in this class and this game is where I finish it with them. That's commitment. Maybe his family doesn't need the money. Maybe circumstances are different. I know. But what No one (ESPN or acc huddle or whatever sports media) ever comments on is what commitment means. In my opinion...selfishness has infiltrated college football. Just curious as to others opinions.
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Re: Opinions on the FSU debacle and state of CFB
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Dec 31, 2023, 9:36 AM
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Agree - microcosm of society today. No one is held accountable. I sound like an old geezer. Stay off my lawn!!😄
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Its about $$$$, as old as time itself.***
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Dec 31, 2023, 10:02 AM
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Legend [18923]
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It' a free economy and a free country.
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Dec 31, 2023, 9:40 AM
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People need to make decisions that are best for them and their families; it's that simple.
How foolish would Wiggins look, for example, had he played in the Gator Bowl and sustained a career-ending injury costing him and his family millions?
You would probably make the same decision, I am sure.
Now, the NFL is competitive, and I can promise you that players who are devoted to their teams and fight with their brothers in "meaningless" bowl games become more attractive draft picks, with all other factors being even, but again, that's the free market.
We can't sit here and applaud the benefits of a free-market economy just because it benefits those who we feel don't deserve it for whatever reason. That's anti-American.
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Orange Blooded [3043]
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UGA had zero (0) opt outs
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Dec 31, 2023, 9:45 AM
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So it’s not like it doesn’t happen.
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Re: It' a free economy and a free country.
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Dec 31, 2023, 9:47 AM
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I would like to see a statistic showing how many career ending injuries were sustained during bowl games. Maybe Wiggins shouldn’t get into a car until after the draft. I am guessing the critical injury rate in a motor vehicle might be higher than the career ending injury rate in bowl games.
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Athletic Dir [872]
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An injury can be career altering and have massive effect so
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Dec 31, 2023, 9:53 AM
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it doesnt have to be career ending. In all reality, the bowl game is the most egregious form of exhibition in college football. Today it's largely for television, athletic department and alumni fundraising, and lastly for extra prep for players who may see ample time the next season. It's like the silly season in golf, or NFL pro bowl, or international soccer friendlies.
So I don't have a problem with departing players departing, while giving the younger (or next man up) guys additional reps and a jump start on spring and the next season. My viewing pleasure is an afterthought as the season ends after the regular season for those teams
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Well-said Arizona. I completely agree.***
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Dec 31, 2023, 10:01 AM
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Re: An injury can be career altering and have massive effect so
Dec 31, 2023, 10:33 AM
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Regarding “egregious form of exhibition in college football. Today it's largely for television, athletic department and alumni fundraising, “, I 100% agree. Though not 100% sure how much money is generated that goes back to the school. I do believe the schools administrators spend a bunch of money in the “spirit” of fund raising. Unfortunately I tend to believe that the spirits are mostly consumed at expensive parties and everything breaks even so as not to raise concerns of the book keepers.
Several years ago there was a documentary on the fiesta bowl. That told me what I needed to know about bowl games. This belief is only reinforced by recent personal experience. At the end of the year, I had to sell my lower deck UNC tickets. I could not get more than $100 a piece for a ticket that I payed $150ish for after donation etc.. UNC was ranked. Kentucky was not. But playing Kentucky in the gator bowl, that ticket is over a $100? Somebodies making money. And when you contractually require schools to buy tickets when they agree to participate, I wonder how much the schools are actually making. Seemed like a lot of empty seats at that stadium on Friday.
That said to the Clemson fans that went, If you enjoyed yourself,great. Life is short and find something you enjoy. There are obviously a lot of fans that enjoy the bowl experience. And the powers that be recognize that, and are going to keep providing that experience for as long as the money works in their favor. Unfortunately, because the money is flowing no meaningful change is going to happen.
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Legend [18923]
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College football is super violent, are you kidding me?
Dec 31, 2023, 10:00 AM
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All of that is false equivalence, though.
Put yourself in Wiggins' shoes...I wouldn't do anything to risk millions in a few weeks.
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The state of CFB is that is very sleazy.***
Dec 31, 2023, 9:50 AM
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Athletic Dir [872]
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You just learned that, or think that just started? It's always been
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Dec 31, 2023, 9:54 AM
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pretty sleazy.
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Re: You just learned that, or think that just started? It's always been
Dec 31, 2023, 10:54 AM
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You are right. I should have used the word "sick" instead of "sleazy".
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They use the word COMMITTED as a PUNCH LINE - they think it is FUNNY
Dec 31, 2023, 10:03 AM
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I, for one, chuckle every time I see a tweet from a newly “committed” transfer, so, yeah, it is FUNNY.
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Re: Opinions on the FSU debacle and state of CFB
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Dec 31, 2023, 10:36 AM
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Live by the portal, die by the portal. Suck it, Norvell.
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