Re: I dont see it any time soon, as long as our foes

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We don't have any super secret weapons

Jan 26, 2024, 12:42 PM

that we would break out in a near-peer war (Russia, China) that will make a big difference. The main reason is if they exist, there certainly are not many of them, but I am not convinced they exist. Weapon systems come with huge maintenance and training tails that are not easily hidden for long periods of time.

If there are not many of these weapons, it means they exist as prototypes. Prototypes are not great to take into an operational scenario. Lot of risk, and remember that an individual has to make a decision to employ such a weapon, and there are downsides (potentially to your career) if the weapon does not work.

The rods from gods concept is viable. However, the cost of delivering a kinetic-only weapon would be ENORMOUS in this case. I do not believe these are fielded and available. The rods would have to be guided, so a ROI calculation would take into account how likely it is to hit the target.

Nukes falling from space are not so critical to have an accuracy of 10-20 meters (because the radius of damage is large), but a rod has to be very accurate.

Using our western-mind logic, we see enormous expenses if there is a full-out WW3. We can rationalize using our way of thinking that it really does not make sense to get pulled into a WW3.

However, I am not convinced anyone, including the US intelligence agencies, really understands the way Kim Jung Un, Xi, Putin, etc. and their regimes think and what they are thinking now.

We, the USA, have plans called O-plans that contemplate many different acts of war/aggression against the US by various bad guys. This is like a football coach that goes into the game knowing the first two plays he will call. We know what we are doing for the first few days of any scenario, and theoretically we have the most likely scenarios covered.

We pay a lot of attention to N Korea. They have 1000s of long-range artillery that can be quickly trained on high-population areas in S Korea. If Un ever decides to go 'all-in' many, many S Koreans will die. It will be difficult for ROK and US forces to quickly stop the shelling because of how they come out, shoot, and go back into hardened shelters. They have tons of SAMs. Early on, the primary tactic should be to take out SAMs so we can fly with less risk.

Don't forget our special ops forces are 'out there' all the time doing missions - far more than the average person knows about.

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if the USD loses reserve currency status. None of this other stuff really matters, to the point of a global war that would resemble WW2.

I know I've said it before, and I firmly believe this, there will be nukes flying before Bretton Woods finally dies.

I think the West's response to Russia invading Ukraine was a very short sighted strategy that served as a catalyst for other nations to find alternative means of processing transactions at a global scale for critical commodities.

That response forced our "enemy" nations into an agreement, seeing how powerless they were from a global economic perspective. These little blips will continue to get reactions from the US, further strengthening new ties and said agreements - ultimately forcing other commodity rich nations to de-risk their GDP valuations by finding alternate means of transacting.

Again, idk jack #### about politics nor am I really following it, but that's my $0.02.

Everything going on and being said now is just your typical Uniparty Establishment war hawks getting their soundbytes in to get funds from their donors b/c it's an election year.

And then, per usual, we have all these moron US citizens in the simulation sitting in their teams' corners with their pom-poms, oblivious to what everyone is seemingly saying on "their" team, b/c what the "other team" said is so "horrific".

We'll hit Iran w/ some drones. Kill civilians. We'll keep rocket man on his little peninsula...maybe a few Koreans lose their lives. Who cares? MIC gets paid, politicians get paid, the cycle continues.

Luckily, China's got a little situation on their hands themselves, economically speaking. They're having to QE TF out of their economy right now, and Evergrande is finally forced to liquidate. There's a significant amount of debt and capital tied up in the Chinese markets right now, so for once, they're feeling a little pain too. For you tin foilers - was that the plan? Or just natural failure of communist economic policies? Idk.

This could be a nothingburger, or it could ripple throughout capital markets across the globe. Who knows.

But back to your point, when economies are teetering across the globe, that's a ripe situation for gunpowder and lead. So we'll see.

So, how close are we to a real knockdown drag out war?

It will be China. And China will win.***

What reasons do you think will contribute to them winning?***

Re: What reasons do you think will contribute to them winning?***

I dont see it any time soon, as long as our foes