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Rock Defender [54]
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In 2010, coaches deferred on 77 of the 256 coin tosses.
Sep 10, 2013, 12:08 PM
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In 2010, 30% of NFL teams who won the coin toss, chose to defer to the second half. In all cases, they deferred and chose to receive the ball in the second half. That is, in 2010, 30% of NFL head coaches chose to play defense first. In other words, "sometimes teams choose to play defense first".
Thank you. Thank you very much. Apologies accepted.
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Oculus Spirit [97151]
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Oh lowered here we go again***
Sep 10, 2013, 12:09 PM
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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as if anyone needed confirmation drn was stanleytiger...***
Sep 10, 2013, 12:11 PM
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All-TigerNet [14921]
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Obviously you're confused about what DEFERRED
Sep 10, 2013, 12:13 PM
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means.
When you "defer" to the second half, you don't defer getting the ball, you defer your choice of kicking or receiving.
Ergo, if one team defers to the second half and the other team elects to kick. 10/10 times, the deferred choice for the coin-toss-winning team will be to receive. Again.
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All-In [30593]
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exactly***
Sep 10, 2013, 12:14 PM
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Oculus Spirit [97151]
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Orange Blooded [2537]
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really??? still going on about this!!!???
Sep 10, 2013, 12:17 PM
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NOW who's being the child?
time for everyone to say SHUT UP already!!!
nobody gives a sheet about your rule-book crown...
GROW UP & learn when to move on! it got old last night & i got tired of reading comments of everybody making fun of you (& others too).
not that entertaining actually & stayed up way too late for that anticlimax...
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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i'm sure bob has a few exclamation points laying around if
Sep 10, 2013, 12:19 PM
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you need to borrow one?
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Oculus Spirit [97151]
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I have plenty to lend out. It's the friggin overuse of
Sep 10, 2013, 12:24 PM
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apostrophes that I'm marching against.
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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i made a mental note of your personal attack & called
Sep 10, 2013, 12:29 PM
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office depot to cancel the fliers.
you'll get no support from my camp in your unwarranted, apostrophe witch hunt.
let's hope ct88 washes his hands of you cause that's just groce.
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All-TigerNet [14233]
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Defer means deferring the option to choose
Sep 10, 2013, 12:21 PM
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for the second half.
UNC lost the coin flip.
The other team deferred to the second half.
This means UNC had to the option to kick or receive.
The other team would get the same option in the second half.
UNC electing to kick and getting one less possession of the football was a very dumb move.
The point of football is to get the ball and run it over the goal line. Why would you want to give up the football?
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All-In [30593]
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You are NOT choosing to play defense first... what if
Sep 10, 2013, 12:14 PM
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you defer your choice...
and the other team chooses to play defense...
you're recieiving the ball twice
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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Re: You are NOT choosing to play defense first... what if
Sep 10, 2013, 12:20 PM
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How has he not gotten this yet? Not a difficult concept
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Oculus Spirit [75970]
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This is why pride is one of those deadly sins.***
Sep 10, 2013, 12:41 PM
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All-In [27290]
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This is deja vu all over again. Oh, no, please not again.***
Sep 10, 2013, 12:14 PM
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All-In [27419]
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Re: In 2010, coaches deferred on 77 of the 256 coin tosses.
Sep 10, 2013, 12:15 PM
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Drnakmata please, please google the following........
botched coin flip............ Read thoroughly with an open mind
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Oculus Spirit [97151]
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Paging soccerkrzy..
Sep 10, 2013, 12:16 PM
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stat
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110%er [5298]
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Re: Paging soccerkrzy..
Sep 10, 2013, 12:19 PM
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Don't page him, he often gets called out on here for being a ####, even though pretty much everyone likes him and he runs the pickem.
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110%er [5298]
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Re: In 2010, coaches deferred on 77 of the 256 coin tosses.
Sep 10, 2013, 12:16 PM
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Yes! I was thinking earlier today that this argument should be revisited.
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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Let it go dude,
Sep 10, 2013, 12:17 PM
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it's not as big a deal as you're making it. Winning an argument on the internet should not be your life goal, you don't get a medal or a cookie out of it
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Oculus Spirit [97151]
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How do you know his mommy won't be giving him an
Sep 10, 2013, 12:22 PM
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award if he wins the argument? Happens to dsp all the time.
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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see if i ever offer your help with !!!!!!!!!s again...
Sep 10, 2013, 12:24 PM
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smh
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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Pics of the awards or it didn't happen...***
Sep 10, 2013, 12:24 PM
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CU Guru [1564]
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FAIL. In those cases that they deferred, all would be happy
Sep 10, 2013, 12:17 PM
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to receive the ball first if the other team chose to kick first. They did not choose to play defense first. They chose to defer (or choose later) and as such were agreeable to play defense first should the other team (wisely) choose to receive the ball.
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Orange Blooded [3405]
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Re: In 2010, coaches deferred on 77 of the 256 coin tosses.
Sep 10, 2013, 12:21 PM
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In all those times how many played defense to begin the first and second half???
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Oculus Spirit [75970]
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Why would we apologize when you pretty well found stats that
Sep 10, 2013, 12:21 PM
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made our point for us?
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Heisman Winner [106258]
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NON-DONOR THUMBS DOWN!!!!!!! Nothing Personal though.***
Sep 10, 2013, 12:23 PM
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All-In [27290]
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Calling Crump, clean up in aisle Tiger Football!!!!!
Sep 10, 2013, 12:29 PM
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This thread needs to be deleted. Stat.
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All-In [27419]
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Re: Calling Crump, clean up in aisle Tiger Football!!!!!
Sep 10, 2013, 12:30 PM
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Not yet. Give the dr. one more chance...
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All-In [49613]
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Once again Dr. Numbskull finds himself in a familiar spot...
Sep 10, 2013, 12:30 PM
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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***Restarts a thread on a topic he doesn't get,
Sep 10, 2013, 12:30 PM
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never posts a response after that***
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Hall of Famer [21877]
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link??***
Sep 10, 2013, 12:32 PM
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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The Dr is still out...that is clueless***
Sep 10, 2013, 12:42 PM
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1st Rounder [608]
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Oh no....Rethread!
Sep 10, 2013, 12:45 PM
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After 150 responses to the first one you would think it was dead!
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CU Guru [1363]
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I think I'm one of the few on your side
Sep 10, 2013, 12:56 PM
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People, he is saying when a coach defers he is choosing to play defense first. He is correct. Now, sometimes the other team, who now has the choice of playing offense or defense in the 1st half, mistakenly decides to play defense. THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE DEFERRING COACH WAS PLANNING ON PLAYING DEFENSE FIRST!
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Legend [15761]
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Hm. Context you lack, young Jedi. ******
Sep 10, 2013, 1:08 PM
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1st Rounder [626]
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Re: I think I'm one of the few on your side
Sep 10, 2013, 1:10 PM
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for the serious ones in the conversation...
have the rules changed? I specifically remember in high school, if we won the toss, we always opted to play defense first and would recieve the kick to begin the 2nd half. maybe high school rules are different.
I always thought you had two choices if you win the toss...
1) you elect to either kick or recieve. then roles were reversed for the 2nd half. the opponent chooses which end to defend
2) or you defer your choice to the opposing team, in turn you elect which end zone you want to defend. then whoever kicks in the 1st half would receive in the 2nd.
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CU Guru [1363]
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I'm not sure what the high school rules are
Sep 10, 2013, 1:14 PM
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but I'm pretty sure it's been this way in college and the NFL for a long time.
On Madden and NCAA, it's as you described it. Maybe that's where the confusion comes in.
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Oculus Spirit [75970]
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You can choose to kick or receive if you win the toss,
Sep 10, 2013, 1:17 PM
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but if you choose to kick it to them, there is no reason they HAVE to kick it to you in the second half.
No team, in their right mind, is choosing to play defense first. They may wish to do so and understand their wish will mostly likely be granted when they defer the choice to the other team.
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All-TigerNet [14233]
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You missed the initial argument
Sep 10, 2013, 1:48 PM
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UNC decided to kickoff when the other team deferred to them.
Thus UNC would have to kickoff for the beginning of the game and the second half.
Dr was trying to justify UNC's idiotic decision
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CU Guru [1363]
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No, I saw the initial argument
Sep 10, 2013, 4:18 PM
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His initial comment was "Some people like to start the game playing defense." That's not necessarily defending UNC's choice, and I find it hard to believe that he refuses to believe what 100 T-netters are telling him is the rule. I think he knows the rule.
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Mascot [22]
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He just doesn't get it...
Sep 10, 2013, 1:09 PM
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The original post never argued that people don't DEFER starting the game, instead he was saying no team chooses to KICK (meaning they will not receive either half). If you had understood that from the beginning then you would have never posted your comment to begin with. The quote you provided states..."In all cases, they DEFERRED and chose to RECEIVE the ball in the second half..." UNC KICKED starting both halfs (meaning they never received the ball either half) hence the original post that was poking fun at the tarholes. So I doubt anyone is going to apologize.
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Legend [15761]
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Ha! This guy HAS to be having fun at our expense.
Sep 10, 2013, 1:09 PM
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No one is this obtuse unless they are just playing the part.
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Mascot [22]
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Re: Ha! This guy HAS to be having fun at our expense.
Sep 10, 2013, 1:11 PM
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Yup i'm with you, he's trolling us hard.
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I'v never tried to explain something a maroon complicates...
Sep 10, 2013, 1:12 PM
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and I'm not starting now!
signed
bob and Prodigal
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Orange Blooded [3257]
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but if you lose toss & opponent deters & you chose to KO
Sep 10, 2013, 1:13 PM
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you give the opponent the ball to open both halfs.
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Orange Blooded [3257]
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deters = defers***
Sep 10, 2013, 1:14 PM
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