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Orange Blooded [4470]
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FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 16, 2022, 12:20 AM
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down the field for over two 90 yard drives. Glad these avengers are taking care of business. I’ll take the power rangers any day. Lack leadership. Wilkins would not let that happen to his group. The back ups are making more plays than the starters. I think starters are counting their NFL money to early.
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‘18 was the best defense we’ve ever had.***
Oct 16, 2022, 12:21 AM
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Power Rangers gave up 35 points to a bad SCAR team.***
Oct 16, 2022, 12:22 AM
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Re: Power Rangers gave up 35 points to a bad SCAR team.***
Oct 16, 2022, 12:57 AM
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Exactly.. teams have bad games. Other teams have good days. These things happen
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
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Oct 16, 2022, 12:22 AM
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We finally have our guys back but they’re not in football shape….yet. Chill the hell out and see what happens come November.
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 16, 2022, 12:24 AM
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Actually a good post. BB looked not quit ready. Not worried about the D at all.
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 16, 2022, 12:25 AM
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*quite
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 16, 2022, 8:47 AM
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We don't have to chill out. He's right. Everyone is in shape except for 2 players. It was a bad finish.
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Freshman [-79]
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Waaaaa!***
Oct 16, 2022, 1:46 PM
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Legend [19210]
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We won in a hostile environment!
Oct 16, 2022, 12:30 AM
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7-0! Go Tigers!!!!
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 16, 2022, 12:31 AM
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Some of the Danny Ford Defenses and several of Dabo's defenses are better than this one, IMHO.
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Orange Blooded [3336]
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 16, 2022, 12:31 AM
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I still say that 2014, '17, & '18 were some of the best defenses we ever had.
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 16, 2022, 12:32 AM
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And heck 2021 defense as well. They pretty much won games for us last year.
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Again, what are Goodwin’s and Conn’s qualifications to be our DCs?
Oct 16, 2022, 12:32 AM
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“Dabo likes them” isn’t a valid answer.
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Re: Again, what are Goodwin’s and Conn’s qualifications to be our DCs?
Oct 16, 2022, 12:35 AM
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How about undefeated as DCs at a top 4 ranked Power 5 football program. How’s that sound?
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LOL are you really trying to use Oklahoma’s defense this year
Oct 16, 2022, 12:39 AM
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as some sort of argument to support Clemson’s two under-qualified DCs?
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Re: LOL are you really trying to use Oklahoma’s defense this year
Oct 16, 2022, 12:47 AM
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They are doing better than most other D's around the country. And BTW, the basketball team sucks.
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Doing better than most other defenses?!?
Oct 16, 2022, 1:01 AM
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How do you figure that?
Going into tonight’s game, we were 23rd in total yards given up per game, 24th in scoring defense, and 85th in passing yards allowed per game.
With all of the future NFL talent on our defense, the performance so far is very underwhelming.
Based on our talent level we should easily be a top 10 defense, if not top 5.
Stop being such a homer.
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Re: Doing better than most other defenses?!?
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Oct 16, 2022, 1:03 AM
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Stop being such a prick you loser.
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Math wasn’t your strong suit?
Oct 16, 2022, 8:54 AM
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If we are ranked 23rd and 24th in a division that has over 100 teams, that would quite literally be the definition of better than most.
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So now we are comparing ourselves against every other FBS team?
Oct 16, 2022, 12:55 PM
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I thought we were comparing ourselves to other power 5 teams with similar resources and preseason expectations.
So you’re good barley being a top 25 defense in points allowed, and being in the bottom half of FBS in passing defense?
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Re: Doing better than most other defenses?!?
Oct 17, 2022, 5:18 PM
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Wake up, man. We played several games this year completely depleted on defense- injuries, infections, deaths. Guess you have not been tuning in.
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Re: LOL are you really trying to use Oklahoma’s defense this year
Oct 16, 2022, 1:11 PM
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7-0 give it a rest JK. Your real ansgt concerns the disrespect BB gets for a mediocre 13 yr career. The OC and DC wouldn't sniff a 5 year career by being Mediocre. Give them a year plus in their job before you Sling mud.
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To answer your question
Oct 16, 2022, 7:50 AM
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Because Dabo offered them the job. It is his sword to die on. It is honestly not his problem if we do not like the hires. CDS has fired coordinators before. He will fire these two if they do not get the job done.
CDS has rebuilt the monster that is Clemson football. He had the vision and begged the athletic department for improvements. This monster in turn keeps Clemson athletics and the town of Clemson going. There was a study out a handful of years ago about the impact that Dabo has on the Clemson economy. The university and town are getting their money’s worth with him. CDS has the head coaching job until he no longer wants it. So love him, hate him, or do not care. He is not going anywhere anytime soon.
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LOL, some of you are so sensitive about Clemson football!
Oct 16, 2022, 12:58 PM
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It makes you look desperate and ignorant for bringing up basketball in a football post.
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Please tell me you see the irony in your post?
Oct 16, 2022, 1:05 PM
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You are like a battered wife when Brad's season comes around. Defending him no matter how many times you've been beaten.
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You love to tear down our football coaches yet here they are
Oct 16, 2022, 1:03 PM
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still winning and 7-0 and ranked 5th in the nation. But there's always an excuse for the basketball coaches that finish 1 game above .500 every year. Weird how that works.
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I love the Goodwin and Conn qualification questions.
Oct 16, 2022, 1:18 PM
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because you aren't really questioning the qualification of these two to be DC's. You are questioning Dabo's qualification to be head coach.
Do you want a list to answer THAT question?
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 16, 2022, 12:56 AM
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Wasn’t Wilkins on that team vs Pitt?
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You are on drugs if you think this is the best D we ever had***
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Oct 16, 2022, 1:09 AM
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 16, 2022, 2:57 AM
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How is this the best defense we've ever had? We're #24 scoring, #23 total, #2 rushing, and #94 passing defense. We'll be lower in all those tomorrow.
In 2018, we were #1 scoring, #6 total, #1 rushing, and #24 passing. In 2017, we were #2 scoring, #4 total, #12 rushing, and #4 passing. Just last year, we were #2 scoring, #8 total, #7 rushing, and #33 passing.
You could easily make an argument that this is our worst defense since 2013.
But also, it happens. I do think we've had a tendency to let off the gas for a few years now. But even the 2018 squad allowed like 500 passing yards to SC.
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Not even close to our best D ever! Good grief.***
Nov 5, 2012, 4:14 PM
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 16, 2022, 8:43 AM
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It's my belief these exceptional athletes we have at linebacker aren't as aggressive or tenacious as Boulware and Skalski. It seems our second level isn't nearly as resistant as those teams were with those linebacker leaders. I'm not suggesting that Simpson, Benltley and company aren't talented, I'm just saying they seem our porous, less resistant to inside runs, and are seen chasing backs from behind more often than they are crushing them face on. Maybe it's all schematic and they are where they need to be based on coach demands, but I don't have confidence in this group like I did with Skalski and Spector in the middle.
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Still a work in progress, but the weakness this year is
Oct 16, 2022, 8:46 AM
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With the DBs especially the safety’s. If the corners are strong, then the safety’s can come up for run support. But with weaker backend, they play further off the line and not able to attack. They are getting better.
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It seemed like if their ball carrier got past the LOS, then
Oct 16, 2022, 8:48 AM
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it was going to be a 20 yard run. Not sure where the pursuit was.
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 16, 2022, 8:50 AM
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Love our guys and love our team but I doubt this is the top 10 best defense we have ever had. Maybe on potential but reality is way way down there.
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Uh we have a DC***
Oct 16, 2022, 1:01 PM
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DC learning on the job and several players returning from injury***
Oct 16, 2022, 1:02 PM
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I think you're nuts, but other than that
Oct 16, 2022, 1:41 PM
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Go Tigers! Great win on the road.
By the way, we were 5-12 in Tallahassee prior to that win yesterday.
YOLO and stuff.
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 17, 2022, 5:23 PM
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7-0 live with it
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Best Defense
Oct 17, 2022, 5:23 PM
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..."we ever had"???
Have you EVER watched Clemson play?
Sounds like someone's off his meds.
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Re: FSU drug the best defense we have ever had
Oct 17, 2022, 5:29 PM
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I believe if most folks were honest, they’d admit their somewhat surprised at how this defense has under performed, specifically the d- line. The CB’s have had a tremendous amount of injuries, and Coach Reed didn’t forget how to coach during the offseason, so I fully understand those issues. However the guys up front seem to at times have motivation issues, which definitely separates them from past defensive lines. Not sure if it’s communication issue with the new d-line coach and they just aren’t responding to him the way they did with Coach Bates, or if it’s Goodwin and his 180 degree on field demeanor as opposed to Coach V. Either way, it’ll cost Clemson at some point if it’s not figured out
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Orange Blooded [2034]
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1989
Oct 17, 2022, 5:34 PM
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You loosers!
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Re: 1989
Oct 17, 2022, 5:36 PM
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1990 was better than 1989
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Re: 1989
Oct 17, 2022, 5:52 PM
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Watching the 89 Gator Bowl might change your mind....I just loved seeing Major's mom cry.
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CU Guru [1321]
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This is not the best defense we’ve ever had…
Oct 17, 2022, 5:37 PM
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They had potential but they can’t stay healthy long enough.
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