Re: Did Streeter ruin DJ?

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Dec 2, 2022, 1:35 PM

I don't disagree that coaching is different from playing. There is a reason the saying is "those who can do, those who can't teach." There's truth to that. But I think you're the one who's confused.

We're not discussing Streeter's ability as a head coach or coordinator. I did and do oppose Streeter as a coordinator, but not because of his inability to play football. There's no relation there (though both Dabo and Saban did play in college, though I believe they both sucked). My opposition to Streeter as OC was because of his lack of experience and qualifications, when we're a destination spot for a lot of elite coaches with proven track records.

But we're talking about Streeter ruining players. That would be in his role as a position coach. That position requires someone who is good at their position so that they can teach good fundamentals and help players of their position develop. Recruiting is VERY secondary for that role, since that tends to be the higher ups. That's why CJ was a good hire as a RB coach. He can teach our backs to play, and I think it's clear he's helping them.

Take UGA's coaching staff. Their QB coach was an FCS QB superstar who has a 30 year coaching career. Their WR coach was a star receiver for UGA when they won the SEC in 2005 and played for a short time in the NFL. Their RB coach played running back and defensive back in college (but only corner in the NFL). Their secondary coach played corner for the Bengals. Their line coach (who is the best line coach in CFB) was an all american tackle for Auburn in the 80s. Their D line coach won an FCS title as a defensive lineman and was a standout. Their linebacker coach primarily played D-End (that's what he played for the Saints and was a Bednarik finalist), but those skills easily translate. They only have two exceptions: one was Saban's protege who had a very long history of coaching and the other was Saban's star S&C coach they poached.

That's what you'll see for all position coaches. Those positions require someone to have very good fundamentals and mechanics in the position so that they can actually show the players what they need to do. Streeter did not have said mechanics or fundamentals. He was a horrible quarterback, so should not be passing on his own passing mechanics to players with talent he could never dream of.

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And he didnt play all-world teams to establish his stats. I've heard this conversation before and was told Trevor played a much higher level. I don't know, but the same interhent physical limitations that can be seen today were present in his HS film as well. The only difference was the game was slower and he had WRs running free against HS DBs. It didn't translate to college speed and tighter windows. That's painfully evident, and it's also visibly clear he wasn't "taught" how to stand in the pocket like a statue, he wasn't taught to lock-in on his primary guy, he wasn't taught to not buy toke and look through his progressions, and he sure as heck wasn't taught to be so inaccurate getting the ball to WRs on-time and on target. It's utterly crazy to suggest he learned those things from Brandon Streeter.

Streeter turned Cole Stoudt into Tom Brady, he coached two 1st, flourishing first round draft picks ("ruined" them?), and he coached KB to the best year of his career.

Fast forward to now, Streeter didn't do anything to "ruin" DJ. In fact DJ was improved by leaps and bounds this year by Streeter, until the yips kicked-in again.

So yeah, Streeter coached 5 of our QBs seeing starting roles. Every one of them improved during their time at Clemson, and two of those "ruined" QBs are millionaires, growing and/or flourishing in NFL careers.

Sorry Sir, to suggest Streeter "ruins" QBs is ignorant hogwash.

Let's move on and hope DJ doesn't crap the bed tomorrow.

Did Streeter ruin DJ?