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Vegas Employer: Obama Won–So I Fired 22 Employees
Nov 8, 2012, 10:29 AM
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LAS VEGAS (CBS Las Vegas) — A Las Vegas business owner with 114 employees fired 22 workers today, apparently as a direct result of President Obama’s re-election.
“David” (he asked to remain anonymous for obvious reasons) told Host Kevin Wall on 100.5 KXNT that “elections have consequences” and that “at the end of the day, I need to survive.”
Here’s an excerpt from the interview. Click the audio tab below to hear even more from this compelling conversation:
“I’ve done my share of educating my employees. I never tell them which way to vote. I believe in the free system we have, I believe in the right to choose who they want to be president, but I did explain as a business owner that I have always put my employees first. I always made sure that when I went without a paycheck that made sure they were paid. And I explained that I always put them first and unfortunately I’m at a point where I’m being forced to have to worry about me and my family now and a business that I built from just me to 114 employees.
“I explained to them a month ago that if Obama gets in office that the regulations for Obamacare are gonna hurt our business, and I’m gonna have to make provisions to make sure I have enough money to cover the payroll taxes, the additional health care I’m gonna have to do, and I explained that to them and I said you do what you feel like in your heart you need to do, but I’m just letting you know as a warning this is things I have to think of as a business owner.
“Well unfortunately, and most of my employees are Hispanic — I’m not gonna go into what kind of company I have, but I have mostly Hispanic employees — well unfortunately we know what happened and I can’t wait around anymore, I have to be proactive. I had to lay off 22 people today to make sure that my business is gonna thrive and I’m gonna be around for years to come. I have to build up that nest egg now for the taxes and regulations that are coming my way. Elections do have consequences, but so do choices. A choice you make every day has consequences and you know what, I’ve always put my employees first, but unfortunately today I have to put me and my family first, and you watch what’s gonna happen. I’m just one guy with 114 employees — well was 114 employees — watch what happens in the next six months. The Dow alone lost 314 points today. There’s a tsunami coming and if you didn’t think this election had consequences, just wait.”
Hear the rest of David’s call by clicking here:
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CU Guru [1372]
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All the young Obama voters are going to get a cold splash in
Apr 24, 2024, 12:32 PM
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the face very very soon. Government doesn't create jobs. Government gets in the way of creating jobs (or gets the he** of of the way).
Reap the Whirlwind
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Know-it-all [2004]
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Kind of an odd thing for a fellow veteran to say.***
Nov 8, 2012, 10:39 AM
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CU Medallion [73570]
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Murc - YOU LIE!***
Nov 8, 2012, 10:33 AM
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CU Medallion [56429]
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Once again, the guy is either an idiot or a liar.***
Nov 8, 2012, 11:38 AM
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CU Medallion [73570]
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it sounds like you are the one that is the idiot
Nov 8, 2012, 11:50 AM
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if you don't think these new costs are going to affect businesses.
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Can someone please help me understand...
Nov 8, 2012, 10:34 AM
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Obama says he wants to champion small businesses and provide incentives for them right?
He says he'll give tax credits for building in the USofA, no?
So what's all this about? Really, I don't get it. What's going on? Is this guy just a paranoid b-hole, or is Barry lying? What gives?
And...please don't politicize this...I really want to know. Someone is lying and I don't know who it is.
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FMT this is just the start...When Jan 1st comes along and
Nov 8, 2012, 10:38 AM
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America gets hit with the largest tax increase in its history then alot of eyes will start to be opened...
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CU Guru [1152]
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The "cliff" is on Congress though, not Barry, right?***
Nov 8, 2012, 10:47 AM
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CU Guru [1372]
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Repub Congress has passed several budgets...Harry Reid and
Nov 8, 2012, 12:25 PM
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the Senate nixed them all.
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CU Medallion [73570]
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google is handy
Nov 8, 2012, 10:39 AM
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this is just a few examples of how. Every business is different so I'm not making sweeping accusations, but you wanted an example
"The government is rewarding and encouraging businesses to remain 50 people or less to avoid the total payment of high health insurance premiums," said David Greenspon, CEO of Competitive Edge in Des Moines, Iowa. Greenspon, which employs 150 people, expects this decision could increase his health-care costs by $500,000. He predicts that it will be less expensive for some business owners to pay the penalties for non-compliance than pay additional fees to insure all employees.
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so what happens if that guy divides his business into
Nov 8, 2012, 11:08 AM
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3 separate corporations? can he avoid the penalties that way?
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I think you find a way to outsourse so you can keep
Nov 8, 2012, 11:31 AM
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your employees down. You can tell employees to become independent contractors. As an independent contractor they can now take on the risks and rewards that the employer used to have.
A lot of companies will have problems when they are close 10 50 employees. Some restaurants will just get hammered. If you have a small franchise with multiple stores and greater than 50 people, you are toast.
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They are going to look VERY closely at "contract" employees
Nov 8, 2012, 1:22 PM
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and business relationships. If you get caught the penalties will be severe, enough to knock a small company out of business. Oh yeah, they are starting to record the employee data effective Jan. 1st so if you're going to reduce your workforce you need to do it now.....Happy Holidays!
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Champion small business???
Nov 8, 2012, 10:39 AM
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He hasn't kept any of those promises. And he will "champion" them right uo until the get large enough for him to hate.
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Re: Can someone please help me understand...
Nov 8, 2012, 10:41 AM
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Whether Obama does or doesn't, this is some kind of chain letter.
Or this guy isn't much of a business man. Why would you need all of those employees if you don't need all of those employees?
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What a #####.***
Nov 8, 2012, 11:17 AM
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Just doesn't wanna pay his fair share***
Nov 8, 2012, 11:26 AM
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Fired people based on an election.
Nov 8, 2012, 11:30 AM
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Obamneycare would exist under either Barry or Mitt today, but he's a ##### and fires people because of an election. What a stoopid #####.
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How dare he. He didn't build that.***
Nov 8, 2012, 11:32 AM
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Oculus Spirit [79683]
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Perception is reality, and a lot of the business world has a
Nov 8, 2012, 11:33 AM
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very negative perception of Obama. This won't be an isolated incident.
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Its not. I know someone who threatened to do the same
Nov 8, 2012, 11:36 AM
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thing.
He said he was at stage in life and business where he could could hire more folks and continue to grow, or not, lay off 5 people to < 50 and close up shop in 3-5 years and sell out.
He said with eth election he will save the cash and close up in a few years. I don't know if he canned those 5 or not yet..just what he said.
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Dooshes, all of them***
Nov 8, 2012, 11:46 AM
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CU Guru [1372]
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Maybe try reading it this time...with comprehension
Nov 8, 2012, 12:22 PM
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Didn't say he fired them over the election. He did it based in anticipation of implimentation of Obamacare and the higher taxes that was coming Jan 1st.
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Great. I hope his business collapses and he kills himself.***
Nov 8, 2012, 1:25 PM
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Re: Fired people based on an election.
Nov 8, 2012, 1:16 PM
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Wrong. Mitt was going to offer waivers to any state that wanted it.
The law would exist, just without funding or enforcement.
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Huh? Mitt would have repealed it.
Nov 8, 2012, 1:25 PM
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It doesn't come into effect until next fall (look for delays) but the data you will be taxed on starts Jan. 1st 2013.
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Even Mitt admitted he wouldn't repeal it.***
Nov 8, 2012, 1:26 PM
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Orange Blooded [3821]
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Missed that one. Please provide.***
Nov 8, 2012, 1:27 PM
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He said there are parts of it he likes,
Nov 8, 2012, 1:28 PM
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and that healthcare reform was essential. He objected to certain parts of it, but wouldn't repeal it.
I do not have a link to provide you. I would just use google.
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No offense but you are either lying or misinformed
Nov 8, 2012, 1:33 PM
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No where does it not say Mitt would repeal Obamacare.
You may have been confused when Mitt said he likes the idea of a system that would increase coverage but he never waivers that he would repeal Obamacare.
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Re: No offense but you are either lying or misinformed
Nov 8, 2012, 2:14 PM
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I guess I'm misinformed. Of course, the person I heard it from what's what's-his-name... ummm... oh, right, Mitt Romney.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI7xyFwpjDQ
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Shazzam. Someone's either lying or misinformed.***
Nov 8, 2012, 2:16 PM
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if that guy could layoff 22 out of 114 employees
Nov 8, 2012, 12:24 PM
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the day after the election one day he was overstaffed
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Ring of Honor [32958]
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Why do you hate free markets?***
Nov 8, 2012, 12:29 PM
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cause i have to pay at my market***
Nov 8, 2012, 12:48 PM
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He sounds kind of chickensh!t to me.
Nov 8, 2012, 2:09 PM
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He has such convictions, why is he afraid to identify himself?
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Ring of Honor [32958]
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First guess would be that many of his employees are
Nov 8, 2012, 2:13 PM
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illegal (and no, having a mostly hispanic work force does not mean they're mostly illegal).
Doesn't want/need bad press? Doesn't want/need state EEO/LRB or whomever looking at his business? Maybe any number of the reasons why posters here retain some illusion of privacy?
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Snuffy what the heck is with that pic in your sig? I thought
Nov 8, 2012, 3:33 PM
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Dan Aykroyd and Tom Hanks put you and your P.A.G.A.N henchmen away for good?!?
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