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Are you guys actually watching the games?
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Are you guys actually watching the games?

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Sep 24, 2023, 1:36 PM

Our defense has been lights out.

Our offense has literally been gifting the other team points and yet we are still top 10 in most every statistical category.

We wreaked havoc on FSU yesterday. Our offense continues to make critical errors at critical points in the game. We are also abysmal on special teams.

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Defense has played well. Still some questionable calls at times.

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Sep 24, 2023, 1:38 PM

Coaching on offense has been the problem. Period.

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Amen!

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Sep 24, 2023, 1:39 PM

These folks complaining about Goodwin and the OL are so off base.

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Sep 24, 2023, 2:01 PM

The timid defenseive playcalling at the end of the first half was bad. Prevent defense allowed them to drive the entire field.

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Sep 24, 2023, 2:16 PM

It's the same defense venables almost always used. Had we been aggressive and they hit a big play the narrative would be he should have had us in prevent. Can't do anything right with this clueless crowd

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Re: Amen!

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Sep 24, 2023, 2:52 PM [ in reply to Re: Amen! ]

So he’s not allowed one bad drive? Ridiculous

I’ll agree that we have not been able to effectively play a 3 man front all year.

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Re: Amen!

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Sep 24, 2023, 8:32 PM [ in reply to Re: Amen! ]

Schmood 👎

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Terrible clock management by us on TD drive before


Sep 25, 2023, 7:06 AM [ in reply to Re: Amen! ]

that left way more time on clock than it should have.

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Re: Are you guys actually watching the games?

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Sep 24, 2023, 1:39 PM

Good...not lights out according to Dabo.

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Re: Are you guys actually watching the games?


Sep 24, 2023, 8:20 PM

According to Dabo after watching the tape:

“That’s as good of a second half of defense as I’ve seen in a long time”

Get your #### straight

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Re: Are you guys actually watching the games?

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Sep 24, 2023, 1:45 PM

I tried watching but ended up seeing more commercials than the game.

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The TV timeouts were absurd Saturday, as was the holding

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Sep 24, 2023, 3:02 PM

on the Clemson D-Line. Apparently choke holds and takedowns using the collar are now OK. But TV is definitely going to kill the college football game.

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Agree on most points but

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Sep 24, 2023, 2:14 PM

Swanson has been pretty solid so far. Definitely looks better than last year.

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Yes indeed, we almost won!


Sep 24, 2023, 3:08 PM



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Ive watched all the games.

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Sep 24, 2023, 3:52 PM

We’ve lost both of our games against power 5 opponents this year, losing by an average of 14 points.

We are also 1-4 in our last 5 games against power 5 opponents.

We are underachieving big time.

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Re: Ive watched all the games.

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Sep 24, 2023, 4:04 PM

That part isn't in dispute. The reason is why, and your reasons are inaccurate.

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Re: Ive watched all the games.

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Sep 24, 2023, 4:19 PM [ in reply to Ive watched all the games. ]

You suck. We looked great yesterday. Clean up turnovers and kicks and we win that game. Cade looked great. 8th ranked defense, 21st ranked offense. Compare that to the last 2 seasons. You
will see we are vastly improved. We have the toughest schedule we’ve had in years. With a new starting qb. We will improve as the season goes on. I fully expect to go 9-3 or 10-2. Next year will be a really special season imo

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Sep 24, 2023, 8:39 PM

FYI: at this point last year our offense was 15th and defense was 33rd

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Re: Ive watched all the games.

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Sep 24, 2023, 8:33 PM [ in reply to Ive watched all the games. ]

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Sep 26, 2023, 6:27 PM [ in reply to Ive watched all the games. ]

Is this like how you watched this Virginia basketball game?

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/i-remember-a-home-game-against-virginia-in-january-2019-30234378


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Yup. Defense is 8th on the country, and we just held

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Sep 24, 2023, 4:02 PM

FSU well below their season avg offense. They dropped from 33rd on offense down to 47th. So we played great and held Portal U down, only 17 true offensive points (and yes I’m aware OT counts). Again, NOBODY can replace BV, but the defense hasn’t been a liability at all.

The offense needs to pull their weight, yesterday! Obviously these catastrophes and misses in scoring position are literally killing us.

We did everything we we’re supposed to do to win this game, with the exception of two obvious things:

We lost this game because of a MONUMENTAL fumble 6 and a missed kick.

I don’t agree with trying to create a storybook ending though, when Dabo decided to trot the walk-on kicker out there for the biggest kick of his entire life. I don’t care who won in practice, the Rudy kicker wasnt ready for that stage. Just my opinion on that.

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Re: Yup. Defense is 8th on the country, and we just held


Sep 24, 2023, 4:05 PM

The problem is that the highly recruited freshman kicker wasn't either.

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Sep 24, 2023, 4:28 PM

I remember Potter missing a few early on and getting his butt chewed out by Dabo. Look how he turned out in his career 😜

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Re: Are you guys actually watching the games?

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Sep 24, 2023, 8:30 PM

This defense may rank high statistically but most of that is due to CS and FAU. They played decent against Duke but they broke after the Mafah fumble scoop and score by Duke.

Against FSU they were fairly good but that was at home and when we needed it most… we gave it up at the end of the 1st half and in OT.

As the season progresses that statistical ranking will begin to drop bc we are now playing bend don’t break defense.

Under BV we were an attacking defense and we dictated to the offense. Now we allow the offense to dictate to us which is why you see the 3 down DL Goodwin is deploying.

We’re on our heels too much. Obviously Goodwin is no BV and that’s ok few are… but it doesn’t take a defensive prodigy to design blitzes. All Goodwin has to do is pull the mountains of tape from the past 10 years to see what an aggressive attacking defense should look like.

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Sep 26, 2023, 6:19 PM

Our total defense ranking is unchanged from FAU to FSU. 8th. And since the FSU had overtime and gave up a statistically significant 25 in that period it actually is overweighted versus the other three games. So, your premise is incorrect.

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Re: Are you guys actually watching the games?

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Sep 24, 2023, 8:53 PM

I can accept some of the things you are saying but here is the bottom line for me, regardless of what the statistics show. Out of the last 5 games we've played, we've lost to 3 teams that we used to beat like a drum and had significant winning streaks against all three (SC, Duke, FSU).

To some of your points, the kind of stats we are putting up should not result in 3 losses out of the last 5 games. And this makes it hard to accept any other points of view about how well we are playing, regardless of how well-intentioned they are.


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Re: Are you guys actually watching the games?


Sep 24, 2023, 8:55 PM

Our defense is sub B.V. standard.

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Sep 24, 2023, 9:50 PM

That must be really bad since fans were starting up call for venables to be replaced before he left

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Sep 25, 2023, 7:03 AM

I think the problem people have with Wes is that our defense just hammers the daylights out of teams for long stretches with blitzes and pressure packages and then he suddenly goes to 3-man line and soft zone defense and the opponent immediately pile up yardage at 10 yards a clip and get back into games. Seems to me that is his only mistake and I honestly don't have a clue as to why he does it. I would like to see him pressure an opponent for an entire game, every play, and just see what happens.

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