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Re: Tiger team and bench after win...
Jul 8, 2019, 7:15 PM
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It's early I know as there is still 2 games left in Italy as well as the 2019-20 season coming up but after 4 games together the team chemistry with the veterans and the transfers seem to be really good.Judging by the videos from the Clemson Men's Basketball Twitter site it appears that the players are getting along and everyone is happy and has smile on their face.In other words they are playing together as one and not about their individual selves.
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Re: Tiger team and bench after win...
Jul 8, 2019, 7:28 PM
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Great point and Brownell pointed that out in the lockeroom..
Contrast the way our guys reacted and were proud of the USA with the way.... well others!!!! Unbelievably proud of the guys.
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Re: Tiger team and bench after win...
Jul 8, 2019, 8:42 PM
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MAYBE the American press will catch on..., but not likely
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I’m glad our boys are proud to be Americans
Jul 9, 2019, 12:05 AM
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The women’s soccer team disgusts me.
If you don’t want to represent our country I’m sure Canada will take you ladies
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i guess you only like some kind of 'americans' ??
Jul 9, 2019, 9:49 AM
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personally, i love the USWNT
last time i checked they didn't waive their rights to free speech when they signed up to play for their country
so glad they feel free to speak their minds and stand up for what they believe in
they're more american than the orange con man in the Oval Office!
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I don’t like the type of Americans that try to widen the
Jul 9, 2019, 9:52 AM
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Divide in this country... like declining a visit to the whitehouse before they were even invited.
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Orange Blooded [4489]
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LOL, just because you don't like
Jul 9, 2019, 9:58 AM
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them, you think they're trying to 'widen the divide' really?
sorry, but that's just stupid
you (and so many others) are making a big deal about an off-hand statement made months ago
but why should they go?
they don't like trumplethinskin, they don't respect him, and his agenda goes against many of their values and beliefs
no one has ever divided this country like the mango menace
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Maybe they can get a big endorsement deal like Kapernick ???????***
Jul 9, 2019, 10:34 AM
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Re: maybe they can get fair and equal pay?
Jul 9, 2019, 11:03 AM
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You are an idiot Tarheeled Tiger
I hate it when NFL players kneel for the anthem, but that doesn't bother me nearly as bad as the Women who disrespect our country while representing it!
What are they protesting anyways? How is Rapinoe unjustly treated in America? Ok, don't go to the White House, I don't care about that. But when you kneel and don't put your hand to your heart, and you celebrate by throwing the flag on the ground and dancing on it. It's an absolute joke.
But they know what they are doing and they know that the will make more money by being controversial. Unfortunately that's how society works now-a-days.
Don't even get me started on the pay discrepancy....
Mens world cup generated 4 billion. Womens world cup generated 100 million. The women got a larger percentage than the men. Moreover, they agreed to their pay in a COLLECTIVE BARGAINING agreement.
Also, the 15U Dallas Mens team destroyed them 5-2 recently.
I know simple economics is hard for libs like you, but try to think with your brain and not emotions.
I would love for the women's team to get paid as much as the men's, but unfortunately it would bankrupt their sport.
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LOL
Jul 9, 2019, 3:09 PM
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there is a big difference between disrespecting our country and the child who works in the West Wing
but it tickles me that the ladies bug pointy heads like you so much
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not trying to start a fight - just curious about your Trump
Jul 9, 2019, 4:55 PM
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comments. Rather than simply throw out insults - let's discuss the policies you disagree with.
While I think he should stop most of his tweets - I do support many of the initiatives. let's share civilly. maybe I will learn something.
And for the record on soccer - I am proud of the on the field success. Could care less about their personal lives - but do think they represent the USA and should be proud of doing so. IMO - kind of like keeping disagreements in the family. Every family has fights or disagreements - but - choose not to air them to all the neighbors. Not the place for politics. I support that they COULD do it - but think they should choose not to. Why would you not go to the white house? Honestly - who cares who is in it? Does it mean something if they were to go and not be a supporter of the current President?
what is wrong with a controlled merit based immigration plan?
Why would we not take care of Americans before we take illegal immigrants? There are definitely Americans who could use help first.
Who is responsible for the Dreamers and the border mess? IMO - if we had enforced the law - then massive numbers of new invaders would not be trying to get in without going thru the process. All politicians who did not address and enforce the laws - along with the parents who use their children as a tool to enter the country are at fault.
The trade agreements being addressed should have been done years ago. Bad deals for years under both democrats and republicans.
Why not engage N Korea?
Why would we not deport illegals?
why do you call him a con man?
what agenda items are you referring to that go against their values and beliefs?
Nice job by the BB team BTW. Well done so far. Represented Clemson and the USA well.
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Re: not trying to start a fight - just curious about your Trump
Jul 9, 2019, 5:09 PM
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he has been a con man all his life (Mitt Romney called him on that years ago - so did Marco Rubio)
nothing about him is legitimate, from his personal appearance, to his description of his history, and his business 'successes'
how did he get rich? thru inheritance and by playing a rich guy on TV... which increased the value of his 'brand' and enabled him to make money by licensing his name
he is amoral at best, and really immoral when you look at his behavior... he's cheated on all of his wives. and there is plentiful evidence that he has abused women multiple times in the past.
Rapinoe and others are openly gay - and the Repubs are not open minded about it
the POTUS should never make a public appearance with a dictator/mad man like Kim.. makes him look more important than he is
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Re: not trying to start a fight - just curious about your Trump
Jul 9, 2019, 10:43 PM
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Thanks. Is what I suspected I would get. No response to the questions and no facts - just misc insults.
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LOL
Jul 10, 2019, 9:28 AM
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what facts do you want? what facts do you mention in your questions? i don't see any.. i just see opinionated questions
i don't care about immigration. so i didn't respond to any that. but here's a fact for you. without immigrant workers, many of them illegal, the economy of the SC coast would collapse; food and beverage, hotels, construction, landscaping. all those businesses rely on immigrant employees to function on a daily and seasonal basis
the con-man-in chief's immigration policy is just based on fear, ignorance, and exaggeration. here's another fact for you: immigrants, both legal and illegal, commit crimes at a lower rate than citizens
here's another fact: the current 'border mess' was created by the current admin and it's ham-handed policies
i responded directly to the Kim/N. Korea question: what facts would respond to your query about N. Korea? no previous administrations deemed Kim worthy of a public appearance. very dumb to aggrandize a psychotic dictator
what facts do you want about the orange dude being anti-gay and anti-women's rights? how many groping/ assault allegations do you want me to cite? i think the number is over 20 now, the women who have complained about his abuse
i didn't even mention the man's non-relationship with the truth. the man lies. about. everything.
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By every measure President Trump is doing an AWESOME job !
Jul 9, 2019, 5:00 PM
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Granted, he doesn't give flowerly speeches ... but he done more good for this Country in the shortest period than any President I can remember, and I am old ... born when Eisenhower was still President
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they get more than equal pay. A higher % of the revenue
Jul 9, 2019, 11:05 AM
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Than the men get paid. How is this hard to understand?
It’s based on how much revenue is brought in.
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facts
Jul 9, 2019, 3:15 PM
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Since 2015 (when the U.S. Women’s Team won the World Cup for the third time), the women’s team has generated more total revenue than the men’s team.
and they win... shouldn't they get a higher %?
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World Cup Revenues last time around
Jul 9, 2019, 4:53 PM
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Women 133 million Men 6 billion
We aren't the only team in the tournament, and are by far the exception to the rule when it comes to team generates revenue. Star players on each of the USA teams are paid, salary wise, about the same
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meaningless cherry pick on that one
Jul 9, 2019, 4:58 PM
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more teams in the men's cup than in the women's
as a few have pointed out... revenue should matter
and the women have generated more $$ than the men lately
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Legend [19711]
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Or, like in basically every instance in sports
Jul 9, 2019, 5:02 PM
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men's sports are more popular.
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Perhaps they should learn how to negotiate, or hire a man
Jul 9, 2019, 9:15 PM
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That does.
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Re: maybe they can get fair and equal pay?
Jul 9, 2019, 11:26 AM
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They don't generate revenue anywhere close to the men's national team. Your point has no merit.
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Re: maybe they can get fair and equal pay?
Jul 9, 2019, 11:48 AM
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They don't generate revenue anywhere close to the men's national team. Your point has no merit.
Exactly, but now the Democrats are becoming socialists, so in their minds the men should spread the wealth. Screw basic economics.
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Re: They've generated 50.8 million over the last 3 years.
Jul 9, 2019, 4:53 PM
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they can't deal with it if the facts don't match their narrative
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Re: maybe they can get fair and equal pay?
Jul 9, 2019, 11:32 AM
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Typical of the far left today. “If you don’t agree with me you’re thin skinned or narrow minded mentality”. So just take your ball and go home. But he’s thin skinned? ??
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Re: maybe they can get fair and equal pay?
Jul 9, 2019, 3:36 PM
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Hope you are still here TarheelTiger.
First question to you, is it American to drop a flag on the ground for a photo op? I support their free speech, disagree with but support the right. You don’t drop the flag on the ground.
Second please explain where the more money comes from for equal pay? The revenue generated is by FIFA and is global. Look up men’s revenue vs women’s for World Cup. I’ll save you time, it’s 6 billion Russia to 131 Million from Fance. The women take a higher percentage home than men. Maybe they have an argument against US Soccer but the pot is tiny and they won’t make much more. Surely you understand revenue generation right?
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Orange Blooded [4489]
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LOL revenue generation.. check your facts
Jul 9, 2019, 3:55 PM
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Since 2015 (when the U.S. Women’s Team won the World Cup for the third time), the women’s team has generated more total revenue than the men’s team.
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Re: LOL revenue generation.. check your facts
Jul 9, 2019, 5:49 PM
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So if you read my post and use your reading comprehension, you see where I stated they have a case against US Soccer Federation. They have generated more revenue in the US only. They should be entitled to more pay, the numbers say about 30k more. That’s good and great, but when you look at the real money, FIFA, they do not deserve more, actually less. The men receive about 9% while the women receive 13% of their respective revenue. I’m sorry Rapinoe and company can’t understand that.
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it’s becoming apparent that he does not understand at all
Jul 9, 2019, 4:14 PM
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These women should be setting an example for all the young girls in this country that play soccer.
Instead they’re throwing flags on the ground and disrespecting our national anthem. Like I said before, it’s disgusting.
You don’t see representatives from other countries doing stuff like this no matter how much they disagree with their government. All countries have problems and being divisive is not the way to fix anything.
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The woman make a greater percentage of the revenue they
Jul 9, 2019, 9:11 PM
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generate. Women’s sports just doesn’t generate the same revenue as men’s sports BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DONT WATCH THEM
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??
Jul 10, 2019, 9:32 AM
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maybe you should check the facts, the Us women bring in more revenue than the men.. the last 4 years
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Re: ??
Jul 10, 2019, 9:51 AM
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In 2018 a down year for USMNT due to excitement being at an all-time low from missing the WC the men's team did the following...
Averaged 10k more in attendance per game.
Averaged 100k more in TV ratings per game.
The men's team is a better on-field product from an entertainment standpoint. The Men's team makes more from making the group stage in the Men's World Cup than the Women's team did for winning the Women's World Cup.
Group stage paid out 8 Million. Winning the WC paid out 4 Million.
Using 4 years as your judge knowing good and #### well it is skewed based on the Men missing the WC for the first time in a long #### time aka not the norm is disingenuous at best on your part.
The men's world cup makes 6 BILLION dollars. The Women's WC makes 140 Million.
Sorry you are anti fact.
People don't give a #### about Women's soccer except once every 4 years.
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Re: ??
Jul 10, 2019, 10:02 AM
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Also to add you want to compare a stretch where both teams made the World Cup...
2014 Mens Team - 9 Million for making Rof16 2015 Womens Team - 2 Million for winning the Cup
So the men made more in 2014 than the women made in 2015 and 2019 combined.
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Re: ??
Jul 10, 2019, 11:23 AM
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and the women don't think the current pay distribution is fair and equal
in many (actually a majority) sports - tennis e.g. - the pay scale is balanced
and last time i checked the Super Bowl winners made more than the teams that lost in the wild-card games..so why don't the winners in soccer deserve more money?
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Re: ??
Jul 10, 2019, 12:06 PM
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Because of the difficulty of competition isn't the same...
it's not that hard to figure out.
Of course, that would require you to have any level of intelligence. This conversation so far has shown you are severely lacking in that department.
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Re: ??
Jul 10, 2019, 12:08 PM
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Thanks for a link that backs up ### I said. Thanks for helping my argument.
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Re: equal pay
Jul 10, 2019, 1:07 PM
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That's a very thorough, but thoroughly irrelevant study.
What am i missing here? Why are we still talking about "equal treatment, equal pay" when they are still under an existing CBA?
If the women want equal treatment, they need to be told to stand on their existing CBA--just like the men would. When it's time to renegotiate, copy the men's language. They will get it; no one is blocking them.
However, what the women really want is "special treatment, equivalent pay". They want to be able to cry, "The existing CBA is unfair! Pweez let me renegotiate, Daddy!" And have all the daddies and stepdaddies give their little princesses what they want, because we all want the pretty girls who bring so much joy to our lives to be happy. But let's call it what it is: special treatment (unless I'm missing the expiration date of the CBA, or some other relevant detail.).
Equivalent=equal in value, but not identical Special=higher than equivalent or equal
Now, the women's pay is no skin off my nose. Since i have 3 daughters, i really hope they get treated fairly through their CBA.
But i think the women are counting on 3 factors to demonstrate why they deserve to be treated even better than the men:
1) the achievement of their success 2) growth of the game under their watch 3) they are Americans, and they want their place at the feed trough
I don't think any of these will change between now and the expiry of their CBA. They are simply taking advantage of a spotlight and the opportunity to parade themselves as activists/victims/pioneers, when the reality is that they got what they wanted, but what they want has now changed.
If they were still little girls, someone would be the sweet daddy and give them what they want. But they're big girls now. Unless, the CBA has an opt-out, we should tell them so.
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Re: LOL, just because you don't like
Jul 9, 2019, 6:21 PM
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Trumps not the country divider. It’s the whiny, sore losers on the left that could not except the defeat of their own candidate. They are have been doing the dividing since the day he was elected since you turned this into being Trump’s fault.
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Why do you take 1 snipet and make it about what you want?
Jul 9, 2019, 4:46 PM
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Did you not see them chanting USA afterwards on the field?
Did you not see the videos of them screaming USA in the locking room during their celebrations?
Did you not over hear them saying "I love being an American" or "I love being back in America" after they landed back in the US?
I guess you didn't...
They might have an issue with the President, and a few cultural issues. However that is their right to free speech and their right to use their platform to bring about positive change for what they believe in.
Being close minded to what they are saying, then blaming them for "widening the divide" is really no different when you do it.
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Yeah they really showed their ### worse than Gronkowski
Jul 9, 2019, 6:28 PM
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After a super bowl win. Real proud of them.
The fact is throwing the flag on the ground and refusing to hold your hand over your heart for the national anthem will not be forgotten. It will he talked about as nauseam by the media.
You can protest who is in office without disrespecting the flag. Republicans didn’t like when Obama was in office but you didn’t see athletes and celebrities pulling that type of crap.
That’s all I’m going to say on this subject. I come here to get away from political BS.
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Re: i guess you only like some kind of 'americans' ??
Jul 9, 2019, 11:44 AM
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That is about as dumb a statement as I've seen. President Trump is MORE American than that purple haired rapnahoe every thought of being. The hate amongst you democratic clowns is embarrassing. Sheeeeeeesh.
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LOL
Jul 9, 2019, 3:11 PM
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hate is one of the republican's core family values, right?
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Re: values
Jul 9, 2019, 6:07 PM
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I believe "family" is an integral part of "family values".
If Megan wants her hair, behavior or " family" to be abnormal, she has that legal right. But if I refuse to say 'she's normal', that makes me honest, not a hater.
If you think she's normal, how do you believe we evolved?
Just...
Waiting...
For...
Your...
Answer....
Whoooo!
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Orange Blooded [4489]
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LOL
Jul 9, 2019, 8:59 PM
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missed the sarcasm?
you show your ignorance (and yes, your hate) by the use of 'abnormal'
there were homosexuals before there were christians
they have always been a small segment of the human population. nearly all the recent scientific evidence suggests its mostly genetic/biological
somehow it didn't 'evolve' away, did it?
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Re: LOL
Jul 9, 2019, 10:10 PM
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Yes, there seem to have been homosexuals around for a long time. Pedophiles have been around just as long. So have polygamists. So have rapists. So have incest practitioners. So have zoophiles. Are all those behaviors genetic/biological as well? Of course not. It’s abnormal behavior and deviant behavior, and it will never be normal. It is abhorrent and evil. Humans CHOOSE to practice any sexual act with another human being. Always. Period. Now, certain individuals may have sexual urges, but unless they ACT on them, they remain just that: urges. Tell me the last time you saw colonies of “homosexual” partnerships in the animal world. I’ll answer that question for you: you don’t. Animals don’t continually practice that type of behavior because it isn’t natural, and they are instinctually created to mate with their own kind and with the opposite genders of their species. Otherwise, they would become extinct. Only a man or woman practices such behavior continually because unlike animals, they can CHOOSE to do so. Homosexuality isn’t anymore innate in a man as it is in a dog or cat. It is a choice because of two main issues I’ll address below: abnormal psychological behavior and innate sinful behavior.
Furthermore, homosexuals cannot reproduce because biologically, it is not compatible. Their sexual congress is for noting more than their own gratification. Always. It can never produce offspring, so biologically, it is quite illogical, thus making it abnormal. Also men are designed to be with women and vice versa. Men also CANNOT be women and women CANNOT be men. They can choose to mutilate their sexual organs and inject their bodies with excessive hormones their bodies do not naturally produce, but they really cannot change their biological origin. Like homosexuals, their problem isn’t genetic, but psychological and spiritual. It is ABNORMAL behavior. There is no other way to describe it and truly be biologically and intellectually honest. Homosexuals, zoophiles, pedophiles, transsexuals, etc. do not need to be praised and encouraged. They need psychological and spiritual help.
Lastly, the simple fact that this didn’t “evolve away” is because man is incapable of being perfectly normal because man is a sinner. Man is born inherently depraved, and there is no limit to the depravity of ANY man. That includes you, me, and every other person in this world. That’s why man needed a Savior to redeem him and save him from his depravity. That Savior is the Lord Jesus Christ. When Jesus made man, He made man in His own image. God is a sinless being and cannot tolerate sin. When man CHOSE to sin, it sent this eternal, God breathed individual into total chaos. That’s why there is all this sexual depravity in the first place. These are the facts that can’t be refuted. Individuals may choose to ignore them, but it is only to their psychological and spiritual detriment and destruction.
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Re: your childish vocabulary
Jul 9, 2019, 10:42 PM
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If i "hate" my butch coworker, why do i volunteer to do the dangerous jobs on the days she comes to work hung over and bragging about her sexual conquests?
Why did i volunteer to share a room with a gay guy when no one else would when my company was otherwise going to have to terminate him because they couldn't justify only having one employee in a room when 80% of our work required overnight trips?
No gay man or woman believes that i 'hate'.
Just because you've allowed someone else to redefine your vocabulary, and you aren't creative enough to discuss topics without using pejoratives, you alone believe that i do.
Jill Ellis, Abby Wambaugh and a whole host of female athletes are also homosexual without being 'abnormal'.
I used that word about Rapinoe because she is. Over 500 international women soccer players in France, and fewer than 1% had unnaturally colored hair. That's abnormal. Even fewer declared they were morally superior to their Head of State, or walked on their country's flag. That's abnormal. I'm sure there were more than 25 other gay women playing, but it wasn't thrust in our face so we were fine with it.
Rapinoe will always be abnormal and proud of it, not because i call her that, but because she will continue to do and say abnormal things.
And because she is American i cheered for her.
I reserve my "hate" for smugly superior Tobacco Rd-types. Wake Forest excepted.
JK. If you show up hung over tomorrow I'll work for you, too.
And yes, i agree, there were a lot of things before there were Christians. But not before Christ. And he came to show us the Way to the Father. It doesn't matter what we were before we met Him.
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It would be awesome to play with USA on your chest...
Jul 9, 2019, 10:52 AM
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Awesome experience for The Tiger team.
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Proud Americans/ Tigers. Great job***
Jul 9, 2019, 9:06 PM
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