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YOUR BALANCE
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Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half

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Nov 7, 2023, 9:51 AM

of the total points were from 3 pointers. Is that considered normal (if there is a normal in college basketball) and should we expect that trend going through the season?

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Re: Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half

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Nov 7, 2023, 10:37 AM

Based on the last couple of years I would expect that to continue, especially if Heminway stays healthy.

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Re: Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half

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Nov 7, 2023, 10:39 AM

That’s a big part of why we have been inconsistent. When the 3s are falling we are unbeatable, but when they are not we go into big scoring droughts.

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Nov 7, 2023, 1:04 PM

I would not say unbeatable. I mean i imagine for any team if the 3s are dropping they have a good shot at winning a game

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Re: Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half

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Nov 7, 2023, 2:32 PM [ in reply to Re: Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half ]

This. It keeps Brad from having to blame himself. He just says “well the shots didn’t fall”.

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Well yes, thats true of every team.


Nov 7, 2023, 6:55 PM [ in reply to Re: Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half ]

It’s not like we are taking a lot more threes than most other teams.

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40/33 last year

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Nov 7, 2023, 11:24 AM

40% of the shots were from 3
33% of the team's points were from 3

would not surprise me at all to see both numbers go up this season

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Re: 40/33 last year

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Nov 7, 2023, 5:48 PM

Considering we didn’t make the tourney against an historically awful SOS last year, we’re going to have to improve both to meet the ACC championship / Elite 8 expectations established for this season. Note - I’m making no comment as to the likelihood of either.

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Who established an Elite 8 run as a season expectation?***

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Re: Who established an Elite 8 run as a season expectation?***


Nov 7, 2023, 6:34 PM

Extrapolating from the numerous posters who have claimed this is our best team ever. And yes, at least one poster has said it explicitly.

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By extrapolating do you mean made it up?***

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Re: By extrapolating do you mean made it up?***

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Nov 7, 2023, 6:49 PM

No, I mean extrapolated. Which is pretty big word for you. Let me help. We have won an ACC regular season title. We have made an ACC tourney final. So winning an ACC tournament would meet the “best ever” expectation. Making an Elite 8 would work depending on performance as we did not acquit ourselves well in our previous appearance. Why are you trying to start fights? I’ve said nothing negative about our team.

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Why are you trying to rain on people's enthusiasm after one game? What

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Nov 7, 2023, 6:59 PM

kind of Tiger Basketball fan are you?

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Re: Why are you trying to rain on people's enthusiasm after one game? What

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Nov 7, 2023, 7:47 PM

What parade was rained on. Saying that we’ll have to shoot a higher 3 pt % than last year, which we did last night, to eclipse our performance last year? That’s raining on a parade? Because that’s the immediate thread you’re in. Seems like actual basketball talk.

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The Brownell Bashers did.

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Nov 7, 2023, 6:56 PM [ in reply to Who established an Elite 8 run as a season expectation?*** ]

They want to create a super high expectation so that if we don’t make it they can continue to talk about how awful Brad is.

Never mind the fact that we’ve only been to one Elite Eight in our history, and it was over 40 years ago.

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Re: 40/33 last year


Nov 7, 2023, 6:22 PM [ in reply to 40/33 last year ]

Hemenway missed a good bit of last season. If he stays healthy it will almost certainly go up this year.

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Re: Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half

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Nov 7, 2023, 11:32 AM

I would also like to see Clemson get into the paint more than that.

However, the way Winthrop was guarding Clemson was basically demanding that we shoot threes. They were REALLY packing it in. Not full Tony Bennett "pack line," but they were determined not to let us dribble penetrate or post up. They were more than content to let us shoot threes and try to close out on shooters.

In short, I don't think you'll see that every game, but I think that's what last night's game demanded. And just like in football, you should never chase balance just for balance's sake. You shouldn't shoot more threes because you haven't shot enough of them any more than you should avoid threes because you've taken "too many." It's all about the quality of the shot.

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I imagine most of the whiners didn't even watch the game***

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It is a lot.

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Nov 7, 2023, 11:34 AM

And over the course of an entire season, that has been one of our biggest problems under Brownell.

Because you just can’t count on it consistently, unless you’re like a Rick Pitino Kentucky team from the 90s.

We’ll have some days where we are on fire and everything looks great.
But it’s not sustainable throughout an entire season.

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Re: Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half

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Nov 7, 2023, 11:40 AM

Live by the 3, die by the 3. Expect lots of scoring droughts this season, usually at the worst possible times.

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Brad doesn't want us to rely on the 3 too much

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Nov 7, 2023, 12:04 PM

but also recognizes that we have good shooters and wants our players to take them when they get opportunities.

Our shot selection from three was good overall last night. A few were taken out of the flow of the offense, but that's going to happen - especially early in the season when we are getting new players acclimated and getting our timing down.

We spend a lot of time working on threes. Many of our players shoot 100 shots each morning. The goal is to make 60 of them, and plenty of them make considerably more than that.

One morning last year, Hunter Tyson made 95 of 100. That's incredible.

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Re: Brad doesn't want us to rely on the 3 too much

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Nov 7, 2023, 12:09 PM

Joe girard broke that record this year.

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Re: Brad doesn't want us to rely on the 3 too much

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Nov 7, 2023, 12:12 PM

Is “making uncontested 3s in practice” part of the selection criteria for the NCAA tournament?

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Re: Brad doesn't want us to rely on the 3 too much

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Nov 7, 2023, 12:16 PM

Another unfunny, idiotic comment by somebody that hates our basketball program.

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Answer the question.***

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Re: Answer the question.***

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Nov 7, 2023, 1:05 PM

You seriously want my answer on whether practice 3 pointers are considered in ncaa tournament selection?

Your post was obviously sarcastic, but also idiotic and unfunny. Try to gain some sort of humor before posting stuff like this.

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So

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Nov 7, 2023, 1:29 PM

….I’ll take that as a “No.”

Oh well. Maybe they can make a cool tick tock video, though!

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Re: Brad doesn't want us to rely on the 3 too much

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Nov 7, 2023, 6:51 PM [ in reply to Re: Brad doesn't want us to rely on the 3 too much ]

No, it's irrelevant, just like the point you're attempting to make.

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Analytics say it's the right move

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Nov 7, 2023, 12:26 PM

Plus we have good shooters: Girard and Hemenway

And lots of capable shooters: Hunter, PJ, Wiggins, Schefflin

Baby Hunter ans Godfrey need to keep taking ppl to the bucket baby

Go Tigers

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Analytics say to launch 3s all day?***

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It's one of the most efficient shots on the court

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Nov 7, 2023, 1:01 PM

Go look at any NBA box score. Somewhere between 1/3 to 1/2 of the shots from the floor are going to be 3s.

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Nov 7, 2023, 1:17 PM

So what we saw yesterday would be the high end of normal for professional basketball players?

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Yes***


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Most of the people complaining about this are

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Nov 7, 2023, 3:00 PM [ in reply to It's one of the most efficient shots on the court ]

either anti-Brownell or became parents before there was a three point line.

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Re: Analytics say to launch 3s all day?***

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Nov 7, 2023, 3:12 PM [ in reply to Analytics say to launch 3s all day?*** ]

Yes, actually. Basketball analytics have identified the 3 point shot as the most valuable shot on the court.

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Don't forget Jack, he can shoot them too***

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30.2% - in 4 years of college basketball, Clark has

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Nov 7, 2023, 2:51 PM

shot 30.2% from beyond the arc.

This is the sort of “knowledge” that Brownell supporters have.

Now…. wait for the incoming personal attack…

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He's certainly got the range...And the only personal attack came from you

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Nov 7, 2023, 3:03 PM

Ace...and I'm a Tiger Basketball supporter, I don't buy Brownell tickets, I pay to see my Tigers

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what the hail is wrong with people who think they can talk through FACTS?

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Nov 7, 2023, 4:25 PM

30.2% doofus.

You can say anything you want; you can deep dive on the ostrich imitation; you can even lie through your teeth. But it matters not.


The kid has shot 30.2% from 3 over the course of 87 college games and 417 3-point shots in the last 5 years. FACT.

And you're going to sit here and tell people that I am attacking you by giving a stat of truth? LOFL.


Actually, if you will read, I attacked your supposition, and then I attacked every other Brownell supporter in the Clemson "family" who appear to be devoid of any capability to accept facts for what they are.

But hey - enjoy your season. I have no doubt that you'll get exactly what's coming to you.

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No, the personal attack was the Brownell supporter comment DSP, try to

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Nov 7, 2023, 4:29 PM

keep up...and I said he can shoot the three and that he has the range...the stats bare that out...He is capable of shooting the three, as evidenced by the 400 he has taken

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Yes, and your ramblings show you are capable of typing

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Nov 7, 2023, 6:19 PM

but not common sense, humility, logic, or even basic basketball knowledge.

From now on, Why don’t you leave the higher brain functioning exercises to those of us above the chimpanzee ladder, Cheeta?

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Oh, the same beats, over and over...Did you by chance go to private school?***

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enjoy your season

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Nov 7, 2023, 4:34 PM [ in reply to what the hail is wrong with people who think they can talk through FACTS? ]

I hope this will be one I enjoy. All I ask is they play best they can and never give in.

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the tug abides


It leads to a lot of standing around and no offensive rebounds***


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Re: Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half

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Nov 7, 2023, 12:30 PM

Looking at our roster, Giarard and Hemenway are both 3 point specialists. Clark, PJ, and Chase Hunter are all capable shooters. And based off last night Schefflin and RJ Godfrey improved their shots this offseason. Expect a lot of threes this year.

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I didn't see us force a bad one last night***

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Re: Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half

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Nov 7, 2023, 2:13 PM

Last year we took a larger percentage of 3's because we were the second best team in the ACC IN 3pt shooting. We were 4th in the ACC in 3 point shooting as a percentage of total field goals taken. If we shot the league average, we would have taken 2 less 3 pointers per game.

The year before we were 8th out of 15 in 3pt shooting as a percentage of total field goals taken.

Anybody that says that we take way more 3 pointers than other teams and its a main reason for inconsistency doesn't know what they are talking about. These are the same people that said that brownell should have told our 40% 3pt shooter that is now in the NBA to not take wide open 3 pointers if he missed a few in a row.

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Bro.

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Nov 7, 2023, 2:24 PM

We went to the NIT and lost in the first round.

Facts are facts.

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Re: Bro.

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Nov 7, 2023, 2:27 PM

Correct, that is a fact. Unfortunately that has nothing to do with this thread.

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Do you believe that's solely because we shot too many 3s?

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Nov 7, 2023, 2:29 PM [ in reply to Bro. ]

Like if we had just shot a little bit higher % of 2s we would've made the NCAAT?

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Im shocked that these losers dont know what they are talking about.

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Nov 7, 2023, 3:02 PM [ in reply to Re: Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half ]

SHOCKED!

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Re: Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half

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Nov 7, 2023, 2:53 PM

A couple of them were 4's.

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the tug abides


Thanks alot Steph Curry

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Nov 7, 2023, 2:59 PM

now most teams are shooting more 3's than 2's and therefore missing more shots and creating a game that is more unwatchable by the year.

I do enjoy a good pick-n-roll or a nice backdoor cut...or maybe even a drive and pass to a cutter for the easy 2.

But why not jack up another 3

I am being partially honest, I love Clemson basketball but the overall game of basketball has been changed in such a way that most fundamentals mean nothing.... I have noticed guys are hitting their free throws at the highest average since before this farce of a game began in or around 2008

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It was the Rockets/analytics more than Steph***

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Re: Thanks alot Steph Curry

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Nov 7, 2023, 3:16 PM [ in reply to Thanks alot Steph Curry ]


I am being partially honest, I love Clemson basketball but the overall game of basketball has been changed in such a way that most fundamentals mean nothing.... I have noticed guys are hitting their free throws at the highest average since before this farce of a game began in or around 2008




The fundamentals don't "mean nothing" just because the game has evolved towards more efficiency offensively. You may not like it, but the 3 point shot is the most valuable shot on the court. The "fundamentals" of any game are geared around producing the most efficient form of it. It's not that the fundamentals mean nothing, it's that the fundamentals for modern basketball are not the same as they were in the 80s and 90s.

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Re: Thanks alot Steph Curry

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Nov 7, 2023, 3:20 PM

Weird that Judge and Mounty both knew that shot count from practice? Must be there a lot....

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Re: Thanks alot Steph Curry

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Nov 7, 2023, 3:26 PM

Girard said in an interview that he broke tyson's record in said drill.

This is not rocket science.

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Imagine tweeting potential recruits and transfers the same things, word for

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Nov 7, 2023, 3:29 PM

word, that you are posting here and then lying about it and deleting the tweets after you get busted...Could you imagine that?

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Re: Imagine tweeting potential recruits and transfers the same things, word for

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Re: Imagine tweeting potential recruits and transfers the same things, word for


Nov 7, 2023, 6:44 PM

Oh, Judge Keller uses that gif a lot. You must be Judge Keller. Sick burn. Now our little Tnet clique can all high-five! Yay.

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Re: Imagine tweeting potential recruits and transfers the same things, word for

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Nov 8, 2023, 6:55 AM

viztiz® said:

Oh, Judge Keller uses that gif a lot. You must be Judge Keller. Sick burn. Now our little Tnet clique can all high-five! Yay.



Man, you finally caught us after all these years.


Message was edited by: Clemson mountaineers®


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Re: Imagine tweeting potential recruits and transfers the same things, word

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Nov 7, 2023, 6:43 PM [ in reply to Imagine tweeting potential recruits and transfers the same things, word for ]

Because no one has ever copied someone else verbatim somewhere else on the internet. Glad you’re on the case Detective Shack.

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Defending THAT guy...Classic Viz***

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Re: Defending THAT guy...Classic Viz*


Nov 7, 2023, 6:52 PM

Where am I defending anyone.? You have all these imagined beefs with avatars on a message board. I’m pointing out how dumb you’re acting. You certainly don’t seem like someone that actually derives any pleasure from Clemson sports. No one has said anything negative about this team or the one game we’ve played in your up in here trying to start fights with multiple posters.

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That guy was tweeting our recruits and potential transfers and telling them not

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Nov 7, 2023, 6:57 PM

come to Clemson and as soon as he was busted, the "other" guy started deleting his incriminating tweets, but keep on defending him

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Thats the kind of stuff Hatfield had to deal with.

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Nov 7, 2023, 7:00 PM

No genuine Clemson fan would do something like that.

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nctig isn't a genuine fan...He's a State fan***

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Re: nctig isn't a genuine fan...He's a State fan***


Nov 7, 2023, 7:03 PM

Except it’s exactly the kind of stuff that has been going on with football and doesn’t seem to raise any concern from you and is encouraged by JK.

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fake fans have been tweeting our recruits and telling them not to come to

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Nov 7, 2023, 7:06 PM

Clemson and Keller is encouraging it? Do you have a link?

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Re: fake fans have been tweeting our recruits and telling them not to come to


Nov 7, 2023, 7:40 PM

Since they use his talking points I’d say yes, he’s encouraging it, and I don’t need to provide a link. You don’t win an argument by sticking that at the end of every post. Yes, the overwhelming bulk are trolls but there are more than few that are actual Clemson fans doing the same. You’ve seen his negative attacks against the football program. Why in your mind is that totally acceptable but anyone who has expressed any dissatisfaction with basketball deserve to be hounded relentlessly by you.

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Re: fake fans have been tweeting our recruits and telling them not to come to

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Nov 8, 2023, 7:06 AM

Can you send a link of a recruit "using his talking points", or are you just making stuff up.

Are you seriously comparing posting something negative on a clemson message board with going on twitter and talking smack about a potential transfer in the comments on one of his posts? The player locked all comments on the post after nc tigs started talking smack. Sad, but im glad you are playing "whatabout" to defend nc tigs.

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He's just making stuff up***

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Re: fake fans have been tweeting our recruits and telling them not to come to


Nov 8, 2023, 4:29 PM [ in reply to Re: fake fans have been tweeting our recruits and telling them not to come to ]

I said tweeted at recruits not by recruits. You guys stumble over yourselves so quickly to have the last word you don’t even know what you’re saying. I’m not in the cut and paste business and the last time I put any time into answering a direct challenge from you ignored until I reposted it for at least the 5th time then you completely misrepresented what it says. So what’s the point. You won’t even call out JK for his blatant trolling of the football board. You have no credibility whatsoever. If you were driven by any principle your outrage would be equal. Yet it only has time for me and NCTigs - makes a lot of sense. And, despite his definitive anti-Brownell takes, actually posts relevant information about our basketball team that is totally disconnected from his opinion of Coach Brownell. But you champion breaking board rules and doxxing him along with Shack. I have no idea if it’s his account because first and foremost, I don’t care and it would be against board rules to affirm such a thing. What relevant info have you ever provided other than “I think we’ll be improved” “I think this is our best team under Brownell” “I’m okay with firing him if we don’t make the tournament” “you’re an idiot if you think we should fire him despite the fact we didn’t make the tournament”. You, over and over, for at least the last 4 years.

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More extrapolation on your part? Do you have any actual proof? That he

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Nov 8, 2023, 2:27 PM [ in reply to Re: fake fans have been tweeting our recruits and telling them not to come to ]

personally tweeted @ recruits and potential transfers and told them specifically not to come play for Clemson? Because if not, #### off

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Re: More extrapolation on your part? Do you have any actual proof? That he


Nov 8, 2023, 4:19 PM

I didn’t allege that he did it directly. How many accounts are you fighting with at once on this message board? How many of those fights are based on blatant lies on your part. It’s a really weird way to engage with something you supposedly like or care about. JK is a pos troll and the only reason you even noticed my account is because you chose to take up for him.

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So you made an accusation about me you can't prove and you're also

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Nov 8, 2023, 4:25 PM

accusing me of making it up? Classic Vizfib

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Nov 8, 2023, 4:31 PM

I understand that you have difficulty keeping your narratives straight. You’re actively engaging in like 5 fights simultaneously right now. All personal. None having anything to do with Clemson sports. But you definitely have the high road.

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I have caught you in yet another false accusation Viz...Almost losing count

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Nov 8, 2023, 4:55 PM

of your lies

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Re: I have caught you in yet another false accusation Viz...Almost losing count


Nov 8, 2023, 5:24 PM

The saddest thing is that I’m pretty sure you believe yourself.

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Please show me where I was wrong...you said Keller was tweeting @ recruits and

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Nov 8, 2023, 6:26 PM

potential transfers and telling them not to play for the Tigers...I asked where and you tried to turn it back on me...Show me where he did exactly what you accused him of or #### off with your excuses...period

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Nov 8, 2023, 7:00 AM [ in reply to Re: Imagine tweeting potential recruits and transfers the same things, word ]

Lmao Tyler. If i got on twitter and smack talked our potential football recruits, you would be pissed and you would call me a terrible fan that doesnt have clemson's best interest in mind.

You are ok w/ nc tigs doing this in basketball because you want our team to fail to get rid of brownell. You are a pathetic hypocrite.

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Re: Imagine tweeting potential recruits and transfers the same things, word

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Nov 8, 2023, 7:58 AM

Have you ever considered not making #### up ? I haven’t defended NCTigs. I also don’t know if that was him on Twitter. You seem to be following Shack’s lead on that one and he has a crazy number of vendettas going on this board. He’s started up on OleMike being DSP now, which seems completely mental to me. There is no similarity in the way they post. I’ve accused CM Shack of doxxing. I’ve accused both of you of being hypocrites. Which you are both doubling down on big time in this thread. Neither of you seem capable of taking a pause and saying “oh wait, they haven’t really said anything negative about this game and maybe we should retreat.” The most I did was poke fun at posters for contradicting themselves about the expectations for this team (re: 3 point shooting) and what is and isn’t typical. That wasn’t insulting our performance - that’s making fun of the need to shoehorn every aspect of a single games performance into a pre written narrative about then team.

By the way, Brownell is 13 for 13 in non-con season home openers. He opened with a conference game once. He won those games by an average of 21 points. There is nothing meaningful to be gleamed from that game. Any attempt, either way, is pure posturing.

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Re: Imagine tweeting potential recruits and transfers the same things, word

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Nov 8, 2023, 8:09 AM

When your response to cm shack posting about nc tigs talking crap to players and transfers on twitter is, "Because no one has ever copied someone else verbatim somewhere else on the internet.", and then minimizing his act by comparing it to JK posting on tigernet, then yes you are defending nc tigs. Try and keep up.

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Re: Imagine tweeting potential recruits and transfers the same things, word


Nov 8, 2023, 8:26 AM

I can’t help it if you want to jump to that conclusion but shack likes to draw lots of lines between different accounts. I have no reason to believe he’s doing any different here. My comment is only incidentally about NCTigs. It was directly about the shack’s rational for drawing conclusions.

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You're the only one drawing a conclusion here Vizfib***

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Re: You're the only one drawing a conclusion here Vizfib***

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Nov 8, 2023, 4:32 PM

Yes, no one else on this message board is drawing conclusions. That’s particularly smart, even for you.

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The Warriors offense was very fun to watch


Nov 7, 2023, 7:25 PM [ in reply to Thanks alot Steph Curry ]

they ran alot of off ball screens, back door cuts, etc. That offense wasn't stagnant at all.

The biggest offenders of the "one guy with the ball and four others standing around at the 3 pt line" were Lebron and James Harden.

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Re: The Warriors offense was very fun to watch


Nov 7, 2023, 9:56 PM

LeBron was never really the center of a so-called "heliocentric" pace/space offense. Harden was the "worst" but also prime Harden on those Rocket teams was a sight. It's not often you have a top 5 scorer and top 5 passer within the same player with an entire offense designed solely around them.

Lots of those offenses are going away though. The Mavs have done way less every since they landed Kyrie and Snyder isn't going to run the Hawks through Trae like McMillan was. The current #### seems to be trending back towards spread two man games - with Jokic and Murray as probably the best in the game right now.

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Re: Over half our shots last night were 3's and exactly half


Nov 7, 2023, 3:41 PM

Hitting 3s is good but I would like to see us work it down low to PJ.

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This thread in a nutshell


Nov 7, 2023, 5:45 PM

Brownell Bros: Brad doesn’t want to rely on the three.

Sane fans:

Brownell Bros: Half our shots were 3s

Sane fans: mmm, ok

Brownell Bros: Half our points were 3s

Sane fans: if you say so

Brownell Bros: OMG WHY CANT U JUST BE HAPPY WE WON!!!!!!!!!!

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Take your own advice...stop being a Tyler and either try to enjoy the season

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Nov 7, 2023, 6:09 PM

or just watch somebody else...Nobody wants to hear you whine all season long about a team you obviously don't like

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Re: Take your own advice...stop being a Tyler and either try to enjoy the season


Nov 7, 2023, 6:39 PM

Can you point to my criticism of this team since the start of the season? I’ve made fun of some bloviating in this thread. And I’ve questioned how good a team Winthrop was. None of that is a criticism of Brownell or any players and I’ve made no criticism or analysis of the game whatsoever. Why are you so unable to resist conflict even when there is absolutely none? Why are you so deeply hypocritical in your stance towards football and basketball?

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Whatever you say Tyler...Had a great time at the game last night...Were

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Nov 7, 2023, 6:41 PM

you there?

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Re: Whatever you say Tyler...Had a great time at the game last night...Were


Nov 7, 2023, 6:55 PM

How about you answer the question asked and then I’ll return the courtesy.

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I'm not, I love Tiger football as much as I love Tiger basketball, that's why I

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Nov 7, 2023, 7:03 PM

actually attend games to both sports and cheer loudly...Like I have for decades...Were you at the game last night?

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Re: I'm not, I love Tiger football as much as I love Tiger basketball, that's why I


Nov 7, 2023, 7:04 PM

No, I was not at last night’s game. I don’t live in the upstate. I watched every minute though.

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You insinuated that you buy tickets and attend games previously, why

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Nov 7, 2023, 7:09 PM

would you buy season tickets if you don't live in the area?

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Re: You insinuated that you buy tickets and attend games previously, why


Nov 7, 2023, 7:44 PM

I’ve never insinuated that I buy season tickets.

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Then what tickets do you buy? How many games do you attend? How do

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Nov 8, 2023, 3:32 PM

you support the Tigers?

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Re: Then what tickets do you buy? How many games do you attend? How do


Nov 8, 2023, 4:41 PM

What does any answer matter to you. I will be at the UNC game. I will be at the USC game. I have only missed a handful of Clemson/Carolina football, basketball, or baseball games in the last 30+ years. My first football game was the blowout of Wake Forest in 1981. I’ve been at every ACC championship game (that technically includes basketball). I’ve been to multiple playoff and national title games. I’m fortunate to have a standing offer for seats in the Courtside Club for basketball games. But, anyone can buy as good a seat as they want to any game. It just costs money.

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Live or die by the three.***


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