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Looking in the rear view mirror of history wont get us to a good destination

Mar 3, 2024, 3:42 PM [ in reply to Re: I hear ya. ]

Sometimes, simply looking back at history does not provide a sensible prediction of the future.

Other than the value of ‘barrier’ geography for defense and cultural preservation purposes, Russia has little economic value to gather from acquiring non-NATO countries Belorus or Sweden.
Belarus: Natural resources in Belorus are meager; the land in Belorus is also poor for agriculture. Belorus still has some nice trees; Russia has all of the forests that they’ll ever need in Siberia.
Sweden: Sweden is not similar to Belorus, but access to Sweden from Russia is blocked by NATO member Finland.

Estonia, Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria are already in NATO and has proven to be willing to put more than their fair share into funding NATO; thus, Russian aggression into any of these six countries would stimulate a ‘tactical’ nuclear war.

(I haven’t checked out about whether Lithuania, Latvia, Romania, Bulgaria, or Finland are up to requirements regarding NATO expenditures. Poland and Estonia pay more than their eprequired share of GDP to fund NATO.)

(*). The above is provided to illustrate why Ukraine, as a stand alone example, is a useful target for Russian acquisition.

(?). So why are people such as me so ‘willing’ to see the UKR / RUS war end with something approaching the status quo of already lost Ukrainian territory? Because it is too late to make it ‘go back to the way it was.’

First, the premise that a negotiated peace in Ukraine = the loss of Ukraine as a nation is false. A negotiated peace would be quickly achieved with the current state of territory now controlled by Russia to be lost to Ukraine.

Second, Ukraine is fast running out of military age fighting men. Ongoing hostilities will only serve to further ruin Ukraine’s ability to function as a sovereign nation at such time when the negotiated peace is negotiated. Also, it should be clear to everyone that really pays attention to thevUKR / RUS war that Ukraine isn’t going to win back their lost territory. Those many among you who chose to believe the pro-war ‘Ukraine’s counter offensive is succeeding’ news sources should realize by now that the ‘information’ that you had been getting was propaganda … not ‘news.’

Third, the new leftist warmonger rationale for continuing the war, I.e., US old weapons stockpiles are being used up / production of new, replacement weapons would be a stimulus to the USA economy / the USA military would keep getting a front row view about the latest tactics in modern ‘non-nuclear -&- non-bioweapons’ warfare tactics / Russians would have to endure continued losses, misses a few enormously important factors … as follows:

It is morally bankrupt for America to push Ukraine to conduct our proxy war, given that Ukraine will collapse if the war continues. America’s wealthy investors, defense related corporations, infrastructure rebuilding corporations, and politicians + bureaucrats + military leaders whom will profit via insider trading will not reap the financial windfalls to which they believe they are entitled. Boo freaking hoo.

It is morally reprehensible to want the war to continue simply to give the OBiden Handlers Administration their first foreign policy ‘win’ … or, to be more accurate, to prevent the OBiden Handlers Admin from enduring yet another foreign policy failure.

Given the amateuristic & politically motivated aspects of our current administration’s foreign policy, these idiots at the State Department and CIA might get us … directly, not simply via Ukraine as our proxy … into a strategic arms type war with Russia.

(*). Face it. OBiden Handlers Admin whiffed at a foreign policy of deterrence when pontificating tomthe world that America was going to lead the green revolution by de emphasizing fossil fuels and by backing away from the American foreign policy push starting 2017 to getting the wealthy EU NATO countries such as Germany, France, Italy, etc. to cough up their full share of NATO dues. These two aspects of the OBiden Handlers Admin policies sent a loud and clear signal to Putin that he could do what he wanted with Ukraine.

(*). Now, the OBiden Handlers Admin has convinced the new crony capitalist partners of the Democrat party (the defense industries and infrastructure firms such as Halliburton) that theUkraine war represents a massive financial windfall for them. OBiden Handlers have already made the case to the TDS voter constituency in that IBiden needs a foreign policy ‘win.’ All that is left is to convince the non-special,interest / non-TDS crowd that the Ukraine war is indeed winnable and that Putin will be deposed (or, at the least, be in the critical ward) if if if if the USA would just stick to it a little while longer. In other words, ‘we can put the genie back in the bottle’ with just a little bit more funding.

This genie isn’t going back into the bottle, it is past due to recognize this, negotiate a settlement with Putin, and be smarter with foreign policy (smart planning to go along with smart execution) next time.

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much arms and killing implements as we can.

As I've previously said - if anyone had made the deal with me that for less than 10% of the annual US military budget every year for the next 10 years we could:

1. Destroy 50% of the Russian military's combat power
2. Crush and deplete the Russian defense industry's ability to make new modern tanks, aircraft, and ships
3. Destroy much of the best trained Russian military units and deplete the rest of their ranks of experienced warriors
4. Mire Russia into a conflict that continually exhausts their manpower, weaponry, and greatly erodes their ability to supply other US adversaries with their military hardware
5. Effectively set the Russian military back more than 10 years in capability

AND..

All this would be done without deploying most of the US military to foreign lands, having a single dead or wounded US Soldier, no massive losses in US military ships, tanks, artillery, and aircraft and the lifelong US Government costs associated with such things - I would take that deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'd almost think it too good to be true but here we are and thanks to Ukraine's willingness to fight it has fallen into our lap. So I say - "Praise the Lord and pass the ammo"...

I still stand by this statement but EVERYONE also has to keep the reality in mind that ALL WARS EVENTUALLY COME TO AN END and conclude, generally, in one of two ways:

1. One side "wins" militarily and imposes their will on the defeated
2. Neither side totally "wins" and a diplomatic peace is negotiated and the killing stops

At some point the strategic military situation of the Ukrainian/Russian conflict has got to be the the majority driver for US Policy towards Ukraine. For well over 6 months the front-line trace of the conflict has essentially not moved. For all intents and purposes - this conflict has become a stalemate and is devolving into a trench war of industrialized killing. At this point, neither side appears to have the military "umph" to impose their will on the other.

IF this stalemated dynamic does not change in Ukraine's favor in the near future, then we are reaching a point of military culmination where to continue the conflict is nothing but a humanitarian disaster with very little purpose. Simply put, if Ukraine has culminated, and fails to make tangible progress towards kicking the Russian forces back across the Ukrainian Eastern border, it makes no military, humanitarian, OR geo-political sense to continue the human slaughter.

I feel we are quickly approaching the necessity of a negotiated "stop the wholesale killing" and need to establish a DMZ along Eastern Ukraine. Ukraine will undoubtedly lose some of their Eastern lands to the Russians (which I find incredibly distasteful) but I see no real alternative at this point IF Ukraine cannot demonstrate in short order they have the military ability to push the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine.

All conflicts eventually come to a time to "stop the active killing" and from what I'm seeing - we are about there in this one.

Supporting the war in Ukraine

Less Russians have invaded Ukraine than illegals into the U.S....by A LOT***

Re: Less Russians have invaded Ukraine than illegals into the U.S....by A LOT***

F Ukraine.***

Go Russia!***

Why is this your only rebuttal?

How is he a tyrant?

Because none of that is true***

Ah, so Putin isn't a tyrant and...

Re: Why is this your only rebuttal?

Reason 5

Re: Reason 5

You said the quiet part out loud...

Nothing you said is wrong

I hear ya.

Re: I hear ya.

David Hood

Re: I hear ya.

All due respect, but Im not sure Germany is

The next target, if the CIA wins in Ukraine, is Belarus... See how that works.***

Looking in the rear view mirror of history wont get us to a good destination

Youre answering the wrong questions

Hold up. "Exclusively?"

I've been very straight-forward on this site about supporting Ukraine with as

Re: I've been very straight-forward on this site about supporting Ukraine with as

TU for the final two paragraphs... That could have happened two years ago.***

Also, Ukraine isn't Putin's last stop....

No.***

Sometimes you just need to stop listening to the regime mouthpieces and

"Russia, Russia, Russia" - MIC ... Meanwhile Kagan/Nuland plan the next coup.

And by "regime mouthpieces" I mean those from all sides - Putin, Zelenskyy,

Re: Sometimes you just need to stop listening to the regime mouthpieces and

What part of that Nuland audio that got released regarding the '14 Maiden did

Russia is probably in better shape (moving forward) than we think

Re: Supporting the war in Ukraine

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