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Oliver Prennell former BB coach for Clemson had
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his own unique system that proved to be a great equalizer in talent. He pressed full court the entire game getting a lot of steals and easy baskets before anyone could set up their defense. He recruited the athletes to run his system by double teaming the opponent. It was very exciting and Littlejohn was very loud. You have to have a unique system to compete against those teams that are always going to have more talent. Just some information for those that don’t remember Oliver.
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Re: Oliver Prennell former BB coach for Clemson had
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Mar 16, 2024, 7:34 PM
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So did Oliver Purnell…
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Re: Oliver Prennell former BB coach for Clemson had
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Mar 16, 2024, 7:37 PM
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And left in the middle of the night. Also raciest
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Re: Oliver Prennell former BB coach for Clemson had
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Mar 16, 2024, 7:40 PM
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His teams were worn out by the end of the season. No wins in post season. Will admit his teams were exciting. What has he done since?
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Re: Oliver Prennell former BB coach for Clemson had
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Mar 16, 2024, 7:58 PM
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Oliver was and is a #### of a coach...At the time the athletic department didn't want to put any money into the program so he simply dipped out. Would love to have him back.
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Believe he dipped in before he dipped out.***
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Mar 16, 2024, 8:22 PM
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Mar 16, 2024, 9:32 PM
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Oliver was and is a #### of a coach...At the time the athletic department didn't want to put any money into the program so he simply dipped out. Would love to have him back.
OP had a nice moment but doubt he'd be able to recreate that excitement again. Not to mention he flamed out hard at DePaul - no thanks.
If we're gonna move on from Brad, we need fresh blood.
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Re: Oliver Prennell former BB coach for Clemson had
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Mar 16, 2024, 8:07 PM
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It was OK if you were content on making the tournament and losing the first game.
His system would never make it far.
Almost like GT and Paul Johnson.
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Re: Oliver Prennell former BB coach for Clemson had
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Mar 16, 2024, 8:47 PM
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Didn't Pail Johnson win the ACC?
If I remember correctly, we played for the ACC tournament championship under Purnell. When have we done that under Brownell?
I'd rather make it every year and lose in the first round for a few years in a row than perform how we have under Brownell. At least with losing in the first round you can look forward to progressing. Under Brownell, it's been season after season of wonder what we'll see night in and night out.
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Re: Oliver Prennell former BB coach for Clemson had
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Mar 16, 2024, 9:47 PM
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Didn't Pail Johnson win the ACC?
If I remember correctly, we played for the ACC tournament championship under Purnell. When have we done that under Brownell?
I'd rather make it every year and lose in the first round for a few years in a row than perform how we have under Brownell. At least with losing in the first round you can look forward to progressing. Under Brownell, it's been season after season of wonder what we'll see night in and night out.
Brownell's Sweet 16 run > OP's ACC Championship game loss. Not even a debate if we're being honest.
Trust me - outside of some of the excitement we got with OP, continuously losing in the 1st RD was not fun and got old. OP had some similarities with Brad where he'd also lose games he should win. I'm amazed at how folks are trying to equate OP to some higher level of success when the dude was also on par with Tommy Bowden. Heck, maybe even more so than Brad since Tommy also achieved a similar level of excitement but never won anything of note outside of owning the Cawks. Well, OP left and flamed out at DePaul so I'm not sure what folks think him coming back would be a great idea.
Rick Barnes is the only former Clemson coach as of late that would actually get a vote of confidence from me if we're trying to recapture some glory days by hiring a former coach.
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Re: Oliver Prennell former BB coach for Clemson had
Mar 17, 2024, 12:06 PM
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I'm not saying I want Purnell back. My point is that he was much more successful here than Brownell has been, without question, even with counting the sweet 16 run.
Let's not forget that Brownell inherited a program that was in relatively okay shape. Purnell came in after Shyatt left an absolute dumpster fire and made us competitive in a few years.
All in all, Brad is not, and has not, been up to the task of making us a consistent winner.
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It was loads of fun.
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Mar 16, 2024, 9:02 PM
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Until we played a team with a talented backcourt, in which case we typically got waxed.
We won’t even talk about how horribly his teams did in the NCAA Tournament. Ugh.
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But yet he did consistently make the tournament several
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Mar 16, 2024, 9:09 PM
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seasons in a row, as well as go deep in the acc tournament when the acc was more competitive, and he had a first round draft pick that had a long and successful nba career.
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Oliver Prennell was clearly a better coach than Brownell, period.***
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Mar 16, 2024, 9:12 PM
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Re: It was loads of fun.
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Mar 16, 2024, 9:22 PM
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Until we played a team with a talented backcourt, in which case we typically got waxed.
We won’t even talk about how horribly his teams did in the NCAA Tournament. Ugh.
Since when is losing to just 3 good lower seeds by single digits in close games getting "waxed "?. Villanova, Michigan, and Missoiri would have waxed Coach Brownell..
Yeah, Coach Purnell didn't have benefit of playing a limping Auburn team in the 2nd round on the sweet 16 run. Auburn had like 3 of their top 6 hurt in that game and should have lost to CofC in their first game...
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Agreed, morehead st waxed brownell.***
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Re: Oliver Prennell former BB coach for Clemson had
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Mar 16, 2024, 9:23 PM
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He used what he had and coached to their strength. He couldn’t get the best talent so he got really athletic guys. By the end of his tenure he was bringing in batter talent. See BB first season. We had the talent to get to the NCAA tournament. Those were OP players. With BB players he’s only name the tournament twice with a third upcoming. Yet this his is most talented team and we still underachieved for the season.
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Re: Oliver Prennell former BB coach for Clemson had
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If Oglesby didn't go play Pro ball in Europe before his junior year that team would made à deep run. They were one missing piece away.
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Re: Oliver Prennell former BB coach for Clemson had
Mar 16, 2024, 11:04 PM
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I’ve said it before but I think Oglesby left because of how badly Purnell handled the Michigan game and then throwing Oglesby under the bus. Oglesby was getting murdered and getting no calls. He was completely ineffective on the floor. And rather than either dig into the refs or take Oglesby out, he just kept sending him out there. We would have been a nightmare team with Oglesby back.
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But he was a 1-trick pony. If they beat that press,
Mar 16, 2024, 9:30 PM
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it got very ugly, fast. I was initially a big OP fan. But he had nothing else in his bag of tools. There were lots of rumors surrounding his firing, but it was time to move on, I don’t think he matched his relative Clemson success at DePaul.
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Purnell wasnt fired.***
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It was a mutual parting***
Mar 16, 2024, 10:13 PM
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Re: It was a mutual parting***
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Is that what you call it when a coach leaves for another job. Then Foster, Ellis, and Barnes were mutual parters also.
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Re: It was a mutual parting***
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DePaul made him a top 10 paid coach at the time. $2.2 mill/year, $15 million guaranteed was big money in 2010. Clemson had no intention of countering that. Then they ultimately offered nearly as much to Rick Stansbury and when changed his mind we went into desperation mode and hired Brownell.
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Re: But he was a 1-trick pony. If they beat that press,
Mar 16, 2024, 9:38 PM
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it got very ugly, fast. I was initially a big OP fan. But he had nothing else in his bag of tools. There were lots of rumors surrounding his firing, but it was time to move on, I don’t think he matched his relative Clemson success at DePaul.
Lol. fired?
It was the exact opposite. Should have shown the commitment to basketball that they did later under DRad and he would not have wanted to leave...
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Re: But he was a 1-trick pony. If they beat that press,
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I’ve seen folks state that Purnell didn’t even give Clemson a chance to match DePaul, but I think the made him a huge offer - $15 million over 7 years guaranteed - that made him like a top ten coach at the time. If Clemson wouldn’t even buy him Final Four tickets, there probably wasn’t much chance they were going to give him $15 million over 7 years.
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Surprisingly, 14 years later and with Brad's best roster and highest
Mar 16, 2024, 10:23 PM
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expectation season, pre and mid-season, we have the exact same record as Purnell's last squad here, 21-11. Same 2 games over .500 in ACC play and 6th place seed and finish there. Purnell's team went O-for in the ACCT like Brad's. The 2009-2010 team earned a 7th seed in the NCAA and lost to Missouri in the infamous TO ejection game. We await our call and results this season.
We are nowhere beyond a decade plus ago in hoops. Nowhere.
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Re: Surprisingly, 14 years later and with Brad's best roster and highest
Mar 16, 2024, 11:27 PM
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You made me second guess myself but the TO ejection was the Michigan game the year before Purnell quit. I mentioned above that I think Oglesby bolted because of how Purnell handled that game. He had two years left and things may have been very different had he stayed.
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We had more talent than most of the teams
Mar 16, 2024, 11:30 PM
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That beat us this year.
Talent can win games in spite of coaching but coaching wins many more games in spite of talent. Talent without coaching is like a Lamborghini without gas…fun to look at but ain’t going nowhere.
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