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Rock Defender [62]
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of all the players leaving via the portal
Sep 20, 2022, 10:43 PM
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How many players that have left have done anything significant on another team?
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Freshman [-79]
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Chez Melusi had a decent career at Wisconsin.
Sep 20, 2022, 10:48 PM
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Can't think of anyone else.
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Orange Blooded [4036]
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Re: of all the players leaving via the portal
Sep 20, 2022, 10:49 PM
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Some guy named Chase Brice did a thing or two.
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Orange Blooded [3141]
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Re: of all the players leaving via the portal
Sep 21, 2022, 7:07 AM
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Chase graduated before he moved on. That may have been through the portal, but he isn't a typical portal transfer.
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Re: of all the players leaving via the portal
Sep 21, 2022, 8:59 AM
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He was a backup who left for playing time. Not sure how you can separate him. Same scenario.
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Re: of all the players leaving via the portal
Sep 20, 2022, 10:50 PM
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The Portal is for unhappy backup or rarely see the field guys.
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110%er [8030]
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Re: of all the players leaving via the portal
Sep 21, 2022, 7:31 AM
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The portal is simply a database and has no special power. It allows players who want to transfer to be seen by teams who might need help. Transferring has been around forever but the transfer rules changed allowing easier movement.
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Orange Blooded [4095]
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Rock Defender [54]
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All-In [25393]
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The decision to eliminate the sit-out rule was one
Sep 21, 2022, 7:03 AM
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of the most infamous in a long, long time in my opinion, for it has allowed too many athletes to believe there will be instant gratification just around the corner, so to speak.
The NCAA claimed the decision was based upon creating a more "student-athlete friendly" environment, which it hasn't. Rather, I believed it would result in a sizeable number of young folks wandering in a netherland, which it has. An alternative, again IMO, could have been to retain the immediate play clause for those who had obtained their degrees; then, a major tweak for those who hadn't.
That tweak would require the pick-up school to pay the originating one a fee for the time, energy and money it had spent on the athlete...say a minimum of $250,000 to $500,000, as a basis...not necessarily an exhorbitant amount, but enough to make a whole lot of programs think long and hard before accepting. My contention is that an overwhelming number entering the portal are making ill-formed and ill-considered decisions.
The fact remains that two percent or less of college athletes wind up in the NFL, for example. Most will wind up joining the workforce just like other students, and a college education may help.
This transfer portal quagmire rivals only the lack of leadership which resulted in the NIL bugaboo...an inexcuseable failure of the NCAA that prompted the Supreme Court involvement...the decision of which was also ill-formed, ill-considered and ill-rendered.
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Re: The decision to eliminate the sit-out rule was one
Sep 21, 2022, 9:47 AM
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What it HAS succeeded in doing is removing a lot of guys from college athletics who left for greener pastures and then were left without a team. Doesn't sound very pro student athlete to me. Did anyone ever think there was a "pro student athlete" reason not to let 19 year olds throw their life away based on a single hasty decision? Guess not.
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Re: The decision to eliminate the sit-out rule was one
Sep 21, 2022, 1:15 PM
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Agree. Seems like an unintended consequence of fewer kids getting an education.
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You’re looking at it all wrong…..
Sep 21, 2022, 7:30 AM
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You can’t judge the effects the portal has on a program by ONLY looking at it from “they never did anything anywhere anyway”.
It really really hurts depth, especially when the program doesn’t utilize the portal to their advantage. Losing players to the portal at Clemson basically pushes everyone in the depth chart up a spot. So what once was a 4th/5th string guy is now a 3rd/4th stringer. If you lose multiple it could bump the chart more than that. So as an example instead of clemson rolling out a fairly talented WRs like trevion Thompson or Cornell Powell to give our 1s and/or 2s a breather we have Will Taylor’s/swinneys/earles and while he’s a current starter now Spector. Same argument can be made in any position group when the coach ignores the loss to the portal and just says we’ll either plug in a freshman to his schilling next year OR (and even worse) give it to a walk on that works hard but lacks talent.
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Athletic Dir [881]
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Well said, it’s not about what they do elsewhere
Sep 21, 2022, 8:35 AM
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It’s about how they may have helped Clemson. Everybody talks about development, but you can’t develop players that are no longer on your roster.
Nowadays the Kevin dodds, Ryan Carters, jaron browns, etc. transfer out and are replaced with true freshmen or walk ons.
To me that’s the biggest problem with us not bringing players in from the portal. If we weren’t losing players to it then it wouldn’t be a big deal
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Re: of all the players leaving via the portal
Sep 21, 2022, 7:54 AM
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Derion Kendrick started on a National Championship team that beat Clemson and was drafted by the NFL. Enough of the players leaving via the portal is good thing bs. It's NOT, we are not "we too deep anymore." It's we need to stay healthy at several positions and almost every player that leaves via the portal is quality depth.
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Re: of all the players leaving via the portal
Sep 21, 2022, 9:24 AM
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DK might be a bad example in this discussion as he was dismissed from the team. He wasn’t a typical portal transfer.
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Re: of all the players leaving via the portal
Sep 21, 2022, 9:25 AM
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DK might be a bad example in this discussion as he was dismissed from the team. He wasn’t a typical portal transfer.
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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True, but the problem still remains........
Sep 21, 2022, 9:42 AM
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when you don't replace PROGRAM EXITS (regardless of reason) by utilizing the portal to ASSIST in replacing that talent............it kills your depth..........ESPECIALLY if you defer to the following year's recruiting class to give a schollie to a HS kid to "replace" a So./Jr. that left program. OR even worse give schollie to walk-on w/ less talent.
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Re: of all the players leaving via the portal
Sep 21, 2022, 1:11 PM
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Kendrick was in the process of getting kicked off the team and arrested shortly thereafter. UGA has little problem taking athletes with arrest records.
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110%er [5683]
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Feaster and Kelly B had solid careers at their schools
Sep 21, 2022, 10:50 AM
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But went undrafted. Most successful might be Chad Kelly?
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CU Guru [1692]
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Re: of all the players leaving via the portal
Sep 21, 2022, 1:20 PM
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Mike Jones has done basically the same thing he was doing at Clemson at LSU. Which is odd considering he left because he wanted to play MLB.
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Re: of all the players leaving via the portal
Sep 21, 2022, 1:23 PM
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Derion Kendrick
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CU Medallion [65608]
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Chase Brice is having some belated success. Butt, had it not
Sep 21, 2022, 1:23 PM
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been for Covid, this year would never have happened for him. People joke about Hunter Renfrow playing college football for 17 years, but it almost seems like Chase Brice actually HAS played that long!
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