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Honestly - how many players on our defense are legitimate
Sep 23, 2012, 12:55 AM
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NFL prospects right now? How many can you honestly say will have a good shot at the NFL some day, based on their performance and demonstrated ability at Clemson thus far?
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Blanks
Sep 23, 2012, 12:56 AM
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but that's a long ways away
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He may be the best talent on the defense. To be where we
Sep 23, 2012, 12:57 AM
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want to be, we need a whole bunch more of that caliber - but we don't.
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I'm surprised Stephone Anthony isn't making more
Sep 23, 2012, 12:59 AM
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of an impact. Maybe he is, but his work is being overshadowed by the rest of the D's suckiness.
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After 4.5 years wouldn't that be Dabo's responsibility?***
Sep 23, 2012, 12:56 AM
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Re: After 4.5 years wouldn't that be Dabo's responsibility?***
Sep 23, 2012, 12:59 AM
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gets a free pass for dancing in the locker room
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Ultimately yes. To me it is baffling how badly we have
Sep 23, 2012, 1:23 AM
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missed on so many recruits. We are hurting at LB, but have 4 and 5-star, "can't miss" recruits that never see the field. Our DBs are even worse yet we have the same situation there. Mind boggling how we seem to have recruited well on the defensive side, gotten players that everybody else wanted and thought were great as well, only to have them ride the pine or otherwise never live up to expectations.
But of course, everything, after a point, falls squarely on the shoulders of the head coach.
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Our linebackers will be good eventually
Sep 23, 2012, 12:57 AM
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But that about does it for now.
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Not one of them could start or be even on the two deep
Sep 23, 2012, 12:58 AM
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On a team from 78 thru 95 or so. Not one
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Don't know where Tig would stand but he's a work horse***
Sep 23, 2012, 1:13 AM
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I just wish they were all seniors...***
Sep 23, 2012, 1:17 AM
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Smiling Tiger - I respect most of your assessments tonight
Sep 23, 2012, 1:41 AM
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IMHO Anthony and Crawford may have NFL chops ... maybe Blanks (though he looked lost and overmatched tonight) and Carlos Watkins though too early to tell.
I give FSU credit, but I am ambivalent about your statement we have to live with what we saw from our Defense tonight all year. It's time to put Cortez Davis, Lateek, Goodson, Shuey and anyone who can hit or tackle in our Defensive rotation - possible even play Nuk both ways on some key possessions. I believe this gives us the best chance to assess our personnel and get ready for SC and bowl games that count. FSU looks like they will cruise to ACC championship.
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I'm all for trying whatever it takes to get the best
Sep 23, 2012, 1:47 AM
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personnel on the field and trying new things and fighting until the end. I'm not talking about not wanting to get better, I'm talking about being realistic and understanding we have a serious talent deficiency, and while our players must fight and we must hope, there is no reason to expect things to get a lot better until the problem can be addressed.
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I agree and thumbs-up my friend until next week ...***
Sep 23, 2012, 2:00 AM
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I think it is wrong to assume that a poor defense means
Sep 23, 2012, 1:41 AM
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the players are not talented.
I know it's not all about rankings, but you can look at each of these players' offer sheets, and it is clear they had/have talent.
We have as much talent as MOST schools out there...more than many...and not as much as a few. Yet, our defense has played as if we have the least amount of talent.
That performance is due to something else. Maybe it's the personnel mix. Maybe one or two players are not trying hard and are thus ruining the whole "defensive engine." Maybe we have one or two overrated players. Or maybe we have too difficult a scheme or a failure to ensure they know the fundamentals.
I don't know. But I don't think a lack of talent explains this.
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Re: Honestly - how many players on our defense are legitimate
Sep 23, 2012, 1:55 AM
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According to Rivals, our LB corp has enough stars to form a f****** constellation, yet we stll give up 250 on the ground
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stars do not equal talent - they are only an indicator, one
Sep 23, 2012, 2:00 AM
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which is frequently wrong.
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Re: stars do not equal talent - they are only an indicator, one
Sep 23, 2012, 2:14 AM
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If they're frequently wrong about a lot of our guys, maybe the common denominator isn't rivals.
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COLLEGE: A three-year starter at strong safety for Clemson, finished his career with 234 tackles and 11 interceptions.