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TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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If you're not all in, you're not all in. Good luck to him, but weird to decommit so quickly.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 6:46 PM
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Maybe being a 3 star he was intrigued by our offer, he will more likely rise and someone probably has talked to him about nil opportunities he can get.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 7:54 PM
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Rather him do it now instead of nearer to Signing day. Coach Luke has plenty of time to rerecruit him or recruit someone that wants to be in Tigertown!!!
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 2, 2024, 7:39 AM
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There no tampering in recruiting, it’s just recruiting. Also, the kid plays in a Texas private school league, and those are garbage, so there’s no way to know how good he is as he’s not playing top competition. We’ve got bigger fish wanting to come on board in Sanders, Short, and Gidden
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 8:33 AM
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Yep, all is fair in love, war and recruiting
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 9:06 AM
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Too much NIL money in Texas.
No surprise……. Good lock.
Go Tigers, get an All-In replacement.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 6:46 PM
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I never like it when they say me “mentors” or anyone else not family or coach.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 6:48 PM
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Weird to say the least. Something ain’t right about this…
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Forgot about this
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Mar 1, 2024, 7:07 PM
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Makes it really awkward
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He meant 11.0% All In
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Mar 1, 2024, 8:59 PM
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I honestly just feel bad for the kid.
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Re: He meant 11.0% All In
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Mar 2, 2024, 12:49 AM
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Whatever he may have meant, he has shown that a commitment coming from his mouth is 999% worthless, and this kid claimed that his decision was bc God had answered his prayers. Now IMO, he actually don't have any faith in God, or his parents have done a lousy job with raising and teaching him...
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Re: He meant 11.0% All In
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Mar 2, 2024, 9:14 AM
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I agree with you, but isn't it true of all of us? How many, who actually believe in God, turn our allegiance for things that, prove to be fools gold? Here, however, we are seeing too the effects of a culture driven to promote "Me".
This kid is a kid. We can regret his decision, but hope his lesson in commitment will be like a laxative: fast, gentle and effective.
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Re: He meant 11.0% All In
Mar 2, 2024, 2:13 PM
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Wow. Aren't you the perfect one? While I agree that changing his word makes him less trustworthy, youre being quite harsh on a young man with a very important decision. You've never made a mistake or changed your mind??? Quite honestly doubt that. Regardless, it's not your place to judge and your arrogance is rather boorish
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Re: Weird move after his commitment
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I was just about to say, isn’t he the same one from the news story just a few weeks back who had that really emotional moment at his commitment?
And Yep, that’s him alright. I have no ill will towards the kid, but as others have said, that just seems really strange after how excited he seemed to be when he committed. Makes you wonder what could’ve happened…
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 6:53 PM
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Well okay then.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 6:54 PM
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That sucks. At least we know somewhat early.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 6:57 PM
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Good Luck ✌️
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Don't let the door hit ya...
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He went from "all in" and "100% sure this is where God wants me" to "after further consideration I rushed a decision and now I don't know" in not even two months.
He got wrapped up in his feelings and acted on emotions instead of a rational calculated decision.
You know what happened? He got a girlfriend that he can't bear the thought of being 900 miles away from for a semester at a time. Who knows if they'll even be together by the time he graduates high school.
Count your blessings because this is a kid who doesn't get much playing time as a freshman and suddenly enters the transfer portal because some assistant coach at Texas whispered in his ear and tampered with him.
Be glad we didn't waste any more resources on him. With Matt Luke on board, we can recruit a five-star with his scholarship who will take his spot and actually produce on the field.
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Re: Don't let the door hit ya...
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Mar 1, 2024, 7:58 PM
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Kid always struck me as the emotional sort from all his interviews. A lot of these OL are the gentle giant type.
Give me the kids that are mean on the field
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Re: Don't let the door hit ya...
Mar 2, 2024, 12:53 AM
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That's the kind that I want also. The last kind of O lineman I would want, is one that will put you on your back and apologize for doing it!!!
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Re: That's alot of assumptions to say the least***
Mar 2, 2024, 1:27 AM
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I do believe this, if you want to know what kind of parents that kid has, just watch the kid and see what they do, or how they act, and whatever you see is what their parents are like. Kids will do and act like their parents, and that is true 99.99% of the time...
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Re: That's alot of assumptions to say the least***
Mar 2, 2024, 2:17 PM
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Apparently, you've never been around teen-agers. Especially, this new generation of kids. They know everything and don't listen to their parents much and do things just to not be like them
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no, it's not...
Mar 4, 2024, 12:12 AM
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If you have children, you actually raise them to not be like you but to really be better, to prayerfully not repeat your mistakes or live their life exactly as you have.
Teach them to do well and be good citizens, and prayerfully, they will be in their own way.
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Sounds like Clemson is completely out of the picture.
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Sounds like money is speaking to him.
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Re: Sounds like Clemson is completely out of the picture.
Mar 2, 2024, 1:29 AM
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Money has already spoken to him, there is nothing else left to say...
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given how luke has been recruiting
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Mar 1, 2024, 7:08 PM
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this guy saw the writing on the wall he will struggle to get on the field here.
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Re: given how luke has been recruiting
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Mar 1, 2024, 7:13 PM
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I doubt that's it. Probably something to do with money but we'll never know.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 7:09 PM
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Once almost a Tiger, always almost a Tiger. Say what you will but he’ll always be almost a Tiger to me.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 8:07 PM
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Nah, he doesn’t deserve the word Tiger in the description of himself. Not anymore. Not to me.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 1:34 AM
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A Tiger or even close to being a Tiger he is not!!!
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 7:13 PM
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Maybe he knows Sanders is on the way?
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 8:25 PM
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That could be. Maybe Short too.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 7:15 PM
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Well, BYE
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Well crap***
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 7:31 PM
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Did you all really think he was going to be able to leave TX that easy...Look for the A&M or OU commitment by the mid month.
We don't pay...it's that simple.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Well, we do pay, so that’s inaccurate. Also, private school football in Texas is garbage. Not sure how good the kid is, but he’s definitely not playing against the best competition. With us being in the final bunch for guys like Sanders, Short, and Gidden, he was the odd man out.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 1:42 AM
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Just show us some proof of any kind that you have proving that Dabo or any of his coaches has been involved with paying for play, or it has never happened, and it makes you a dumb A$$ for even suggesting that they have!!!
I've always heard that everything in Texass is bigger, Texians tell bigger lies also!!!
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Either youre reading comprehension is not very good, or you’re functionally retarded, but seeing your replies on this thread, I’d tend to lean towards the latter. No one said Dabo Or any coaches are involved in pay to play. Not sure if you’re aware, but there’s this little thing called “NIL” that’s now available to players. We have a very well funded NIL program called 101Society, and we use it. Jason Priester has mentioned many times that form the parents he’s talked to, the NIL packages are very competitive as well. So, in short, we do pay. Sorry if that shattered your world view.
In regard to Texas, don’t let your inferiority complex lead you through life their hoss.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 9:19 AM
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Can’t get in a NIL bidding war with Texas and Texas A&M.
They’ll win every time! Too much $$$$.
Get a better replacement that wants to play for Clemson!
Go Tigers!
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 2:27 PM
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He must have also missed the article, from just a few days ago, that talked about Levin Kirkland now being involved with NIL. We do have NIL money and use it as best we can.
So, yes, we are involved, to the point that it is "legal". Highly doubt Dabo, or any of the other coaches, would do anything immoral, but they will take advantage of what is available.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 7:44 PM
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No offense to the guy, but he may worry about seeing the field. He should go to a BC or Miss St type of program and pretty much guarantee starting
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 1:47 AM
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If seeing the field has become all important to him, he should commit to USUC or Vanderbilt!!!
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 7:50 PM
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Perhaps opening the door for Mr Sanders?...
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Perhaps opening the door for Mr Sanders?...
The door for Sanders is ALWAYS open.
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Eh, 3 star***
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We didnt want him anyway***
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 8:35 PM
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Sounds like he knows better players are coming.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 8:42 PM
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Hate it, but glad he did now so we have time to recruit others, which I know we are in good shape with 2-3 oyhers
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 1:53 AM
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There are more experienced 3 star O lineman in the portal just waiting for someone to call on them, and they have already had at least a season of development from where they left from...
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 9:02 PM
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I’ll bet Coach Luke finds a bigger & better one pretty soon too!
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 2:08 AM
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Coach Luke is a proven O line coach that has a National Championship accredited to his resume, he won't have much of a problem bringing in good O line talent that their first priority is getting a shot in the NFL. There will be some that will come even if they really never liked Clemson before coach Luke was hired...
Not many people would be so dumb to take their vehicle to Jiffy lube to get an engine rebuild unless the word was out that one of the best engine rebuild technicians was working at Jiffy lube...
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Then he was never committed.
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Mar 1, 2024, 9:07 PM
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Bye.
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Who? Never heard of her.***
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Re: Who? Never heard of her.***
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This is very strange, but I also don’t believe he was top of our want list.
Hope he’ll do well and we’ll land a few better ones.
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Re: Who? Never heard of her.***
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I hear NIL and tampering but we will never know.
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Re: Who? Never heard of her.***
Mar 2, 2024, 2:12 AM
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We will never know bc the NIL was allowed in college FB before anyone had a clue of how to govern it, and that makes it one of the faults that's almost impossible to prove!!!
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So he heard from God telling him it was Clemson, to now it not being Clemson.
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Mar 1, 2024, 10:45 PM
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Did God tell him since then that it’s not Clemson? Is he ignoring God now? Was it the devil?
Hopefully he figures it out.
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Re: So he heard from God telling him it was Clemson, to now it not being Clemson.
Mar 2, 2024, 1:21 AM
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I believe he has more faith in the cash than any faith he claimed of having in God!!! Plus his words of being 110% all in were just words to him without any meaning of commitment bc he doesn't understand what commitment actually means!!!
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All-In [44054]
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I think its dangerous and unfair to accuse anyone who doesnt choose us
Mar 2, 2024, 7:32 AM
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as chasing money.
There are other good recruiters and football programs besides us. Why can’t someone ever choose another place because they like it more or view it as a better fit?
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Re: So he heard from God telling him it was Clemson, to now it not being Clemson.
Mar 2, 2024, 2:20 PM
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That was exactly what my first thought was JK. If God told him to commit and God told him to decommit, kinda makes you wonder how many Gods this dude worships? Maybe he has more than one spirit whispering in his ear, or more likely, none at all.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 10:57 PM
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JP from another site reported he simply felt he made a rash decision. Said he still loves CU and Dabo told him he still has a spot if he wants it. Also said there was no tampering or outside influence
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 1, 2024, 11:23 PM
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That's kinda what I thought too. Dabo had a good interview I listened to on YouTube. Don't think it was posted here. Anyway, point is, Dabo stated that they spend a lot of time trying to talk a kid out of committing. So, I would 100% agree with JP. People have this misperception that we don't or can't pay kids, or even discuss nil. This kid isn't looking for money. He knows our policy as well. No official after a commit. Doubtful, but he could end up here.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 2:38 AM
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I think, and then again, I could be wrong, but bigger schools with a much bigger alumni base in the areas of a much bigger economy can generate a lot more NIL money to offer an athlete/player, and that is the main flaw of the NIL that is making it so difficult to come up with a way to govern it in a way to make it equal for every school...
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 2:18 AM
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I guess we should wait until he is jumping up and turning cartwheels while saying this school offered me a lot of money to go there before we really know if NIL money was involved or his biggest attracting!!!
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 7:17 AM
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I guess we should wait until he is jumping up and turning cartwheels while saying this school offered me a lot of money to go there before we really know if NIL money was involved or his biggest attracting!!!
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We could give him the benefit of the doubt until there is some sort of evidence his words were not true.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 6:48 AM
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So in other words God’s decision when speaking to him was rash?? If he comes to Clemson later will we let him rub the rock? Seems the 110% meaning is not very clear to him. As we say around the plant, don’t let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya!
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Screw him we dont need him. Apparently his family is
Mar 2, 2024, 1:21 AM
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Money hungry……..
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Re: Screw him we dont need him. Apparently his family is
Mar 2, 2024, 2:22 AM
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Yep, they couldn't make it without their son going somewhere that offered the most money regardless of the quality of education...
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best long term decision for both parties***
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
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Mar 2, 2024, 8:12 AM
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Look, when you are getting commitments from juniors in high school, you are just have to hope they will not change their mind. These kids are 16-17 years old and if you have children or grandchildren that age, like we do, you know that they will change their minds at the drop of a hat.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 8:39 AM
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Who cares? Goodbye! Whoever is on the roster for game one is all I care about. If any of you other lazy money hungry kids are reading this then get the hell out too. We only want high character kids that want to be here. You guys make such a big deal out of these kids it ain't even funny. If he wants to go then go and take whoever else doesn't want to be here with you.
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Got to wonder if this isn't another Mama Nkemdiche situation. The kid fell in
Mar 2, 2024, 8:41 AM
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love with Clemson to the point of immediate committment, but now his "mentors" are saying "Pump the BRAKES here, we got to get the best $$$ offer out there for US!"
Hope he finally realizes this decision is going to affect HIS life forever going forward a lot more than it will affect the lives of these "mentors", unless they steal his money from him. He may not be done with us yet. A return trip to Clemson may, and most likely WILL be in order.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 8:50 AM
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If you're not ALL IN, then LEAVE BEFORE YOU EVEN ARRIVED. Class act.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 10:58 AM
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Ho Hummmmm.......move along now. Nothing to see here.
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 2, 2024, 11:20 AM
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Somehow the Tigers will survive this.
Any kid who passed up a chance to be a Tiger has a problem. Imo
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Welcome to Clemson!***
Mar 2, 2024, 12:46 PM
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Blah blah
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Mar 2, 2024, 10:23 PM
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3 Star get to steppin!
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Re: TNET: 2025 lineman announces decommitment from Clemson
Mar 3, 2024, 8:49 PM
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Being that he is a 3 star I don’t think there is that much of a loss. But it is suspicious like another University was involved or should I say maybe tampering.
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