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Oct 22, 2023, 3:02 PM

One it is petty. Two it is a betrayal. We pay for the program. Usually when a leader insults his financial support he doesn’t last long. I’ve been a fan since the 80s and lived through all of the highs and lows. Doesn’t look good to see a coach insult his fan base.

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He dug himself a big hole with those comments.

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Oct 22, 2023, 3:03 PM

And after the atrocity last night I guarantee you that 1.5% has gotten considerably larger.

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Re: He dug himself a big hole with those comments.

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Oct 22, 2023, 3:18 PM

It never was 1.5% that were complaining.

Just because the pumpers and Dabo said it was that small doesn't make it so.

Lots of people that sit around me in Section US have been very unhappy and disappointed for a while now. We still show up, but it doesn't mean we have to be happy about the S&*tshow being put on the field every week by this coaching staff and Head Coach.

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Yep...it was never 1.5%.....

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Oct 22, 2023, 3:22 PM [ in reply to He dug himself a big hole with those comments. ]

Just beyond the pale to say something like that. Another self-inflicted error. Creates division, when at this time, Dabo needs support more than ever. NEVER complain about the fans. Concentrate on what YOU can CONTROL.

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Re: Insult the fans

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Oct 22, 2023, 3:18 PM

Dabo has gotten to the point where he has started to believe his own "coach speak" (aka BS). Mix in some hubris and ego and you end up with a HC who increasingly seems like they are disconnected from reality. Unfortunately people who end in this spot rarely, if ever realize that THEY are the ones NOT seeing reality until after it is brutally smashed in their face. That's probably where we are headed.

Fortunately for me, I am not going to stress about it. I actually stopped in Clemson this morning and had breakfast with some family. Football barely even came up over breakfast. Too many other things to talk about. I do feel badly for the business owners and others who have their livelihoods directly connected to Clemson's football success. They are in for a rough ride in my opinion. I think Dabo is going to keep "keeping on" until he either has a losing season (a real possibility this year) or the board sends a shot across his bow.

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Re: Insult the fans

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Oct 23, 2023, 8:03 PM

Some people won’t like this post but i gave it a tu.

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Class of ‘71. Went through “rat season” and glad I did.


He didn't Insult the fans

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Oct 22, 2023, 3:25 PM

He insulted some fans. And he was right.





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Re: He isnt Insult the fans

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Oct 22, 2023, 3:32 PM

He shouldn't insult anyone.

Doesn't matter if he was right abt a small portion. Its was an unforced error and created a national narrative that was totally unnecessary. Unfort, it has created division. Didn't help in the good will dept either @ a time when he needs it. Painted himself into a corner for ZERO reason. None. Sick of seeing the 98.5/1.5% plastered all over the internet. Never call out your fanbase.....he should know better.

The reality is that many more than 1.5% have serious concerns abt the direction of the program. I hear it everyday from long-term Clemson ppl, great ppl and supporters.

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It wasn't intended as an insult...

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Oct 23, 2023, 9:31 AM

it was the truth. Some took it as an insult. 1.5%, it's like that with any coaching at any level. There are a very small percentage of "fans" and/or parents who do not understand how to fan correctly.




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Dabo appeared to be worried about the wrong stuff***

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:38 AM



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I didn't get the impression he was worried.***


Oct 23, 2023, 10:43 AM



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Re: I didn't get the impression he was worried.***

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:46 AM

he seemed worried about something after the game on Saturday

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Are we talking about the 1.5% comment or the game?


Oct 23, 2023, 10:48 AM

If we are talking about the game, then he should be worried/concerned. His QB just changed the last play of the game. The offense couldn't get started in the 4th quarter. The defense had trouble stopping the run in the 4th. No one knows these things more than the coach.

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Re: Are we talking about the 1.5% comment or the game?

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:59 AM

And here we are, arguing about the 98.5 comment when we should 100% be looking at Dabo and saying where are these wins we are paying you for? It’s a deflection, he knows what he is doing when he says them. All narcissist are excellent at deflection and gas lighting. People who are good at identifying them rarely get fooled by them because they recognize the behavior immediately when they see it and act accordingly. You will see it one day too, most likely after you are the victim

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The OP is about the 1.5% comment...

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Oct 23, 2023, 11:11 AM

the post I responded to was about the game Saturday. No one is arguing about the 1.5/98.5, the poster changed the subject mid-stream so I noted it.

I am not being fooled by anyone. In fact, my educated guess is I have more experience with this sort of thing than you. But I am happy for you that you recognize it and are acting accordingly.




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Re: It wasn't intended as an insult...

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:51 AM [ in reply to It wasn't intended as an insult... ]

Sorry to be the definition police; but, I’m sick of hearing good fan or bad fan. Fan is short for fanatic. Fanatic is a person with an unnatural passion for something. When it’s passion, emotions run high.

In conclusion, you can’t call a fan bad or good. You’re either a fanatic of Clemson University (or any other team), or you are not. I have been a fanatic since 1970’s. I boo’d Hatfield when he took the best recruits and backed into a 10-2 season AFTER losing the first time EVER against UVA. I also pulled donations back until the board said fire him.

I don’t understand how pointing out obvious problems makes a person a bad fan. I’m a businessman. I invest in Clemson University. You’re #### right I’m going to call out deficiencies and withdraw funds when the on-field product is a #### show.


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There are absolutely "bad fans" in every fan base...


Oct 23, 2023, 10:55 AM

at every level. This is nothing new and should not be insulting to more than a few who want to be insulted.

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I respect someone who reacts with actions and moves on with other...


Oct 23, 2023, 11:26 AM [ in reply to Re: It wasn't intended as an insult... ]

business at hand much more than someone who just complains, repeatedly, but does nothing. I think that's the point, people either need to crap or get off the pot, the doers might be tired of nothing but the lip.




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PREACH IT Brother!***


Oct 23, 2023, 11:37 AM [ in reply to Re: It wasn't intended as an insult... ]



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Re: He isnt Insult the fans

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Oct 23, 2023, 9:43 AM [ in reply to Re: He isnt Insult the fans ]

Then you shouldn’t insult anyone either. Do you believe his some superior being who has no emotions?

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Re: He isnt Insult the fans

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:43 AM

I don't believe Dabo reads Tigernet. Do you?

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Me too. I have some really good friends, looooonnnng time supporters


Oct 23, 2023, 10:46 AM [ in reply to Re: He isnt Insult the fans ]

so would make the most negative 1.5%er on Tnet cringe.

There is a lot of discontent amongst the fans...just not prepared for a 6-6 season.

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absolutely no one was/is prepared for a 6-6 season

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:50 AM

given the third highest paid HC in CFB and continued top recruiting classes. I venture to say that even those who were saying that bad coaching hires and not using the portal was going to hurt us weren't prepared for the downturn to happen so quickly.

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Re: absolutely no one was/is prepared for a 6-6 season

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:56 AM

I’ve been screaming bowl eligibility may be an issue all year. I’m a die hard supporter. I suffered through the desert and Bowden years. Hatfield, West, Ms a few others. My love for Clemson doesn’t change. I have vocally pulled donations to get things fixed. Usually ends in a coaches jobs. I’m not a top contributor to the University, but I am a long time booster.

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Re: He isnt Insult the fans

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Oct 22, 2023, 3:39 PM [ in reply to He didn't Insult the fans ]

You can't claim to be a family and do stuff like that. Praise in public, correct in private. And since you can't correct the fans in private, just leave it alone altogether. Absolutely nothing positive came from it.


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You shouldn't claim to be part of a family...

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Oct 23, 2023, 9:28 AM

and do the things a very small percentage of fans are doing.

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You mean, like pretending nothing is wrong with this program?


Oct 23, 2023, 9:30 AM

Got it. Troll.

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What are you talking about?***

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Oct 23, 2023, 9:31 AM



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You live in a world where you can make things up...

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Oct 23, 2023, 9:38 AM [ in reply to You mean, like pretending nothing is wrong with this program? ]

make terrible assumptions, and/or complain non-stop and there are no repercussions. Dabo does not.

I'm not pretending nothing is wrong, if that's what you are insinuating. I am saying some of the nonsensical things people are saying are nonsensical.

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Such as what? Outside of the fire Dabo buffoonery


Oct 23, 2023, 9:39 AM

Which virtually no one is actually saying.

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I have seen people say...

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Oct 23, 2023, 9:41 AM

Dabo should be fired.
Wes should be fired.
Riley should be fired.
Dabo should fire everyone on staff.
We didn't adjust on defense.
We didn't get enough pressure.

All of these things were posted this weekend.

As for you specifically, you just insinuated that I am claiming nothing is wrong. Or maybe you meant 98.5% feel nothing is wrong. Or maybe you meant only 1.5% can see problems. I'm not really sure, you weren't clear, another luxury Dabo doesn't have.




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Re: I have seen people say...

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Oct 23, 2023, 9:44 AM

Cmon Francis don’t bring up facts while they’re playing the woe is me victim card

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Re: I have seen people say...


Oct 23, 2023, 10:08 AM [ in reply to I have seen people say... ]

Those are nothing more than frustrated opinions that extend well beyond the 1.5%. This is all just noise started by a guy who wanted to deflect and it blew up bigger than it was intended. Just a self-inflicted wound that was easily preventable. We have much bigger fish to fry than continuing to talk about this.

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Re: I have seen people say...


Oct 23, 2023, 10:15 AM [ in reply to I have seen people say... ]

Part of the problem is that Riley runs the same plays over and over with usually no positive results. What he needs to do is determine what the teams strenghts are and call plays accordingly like letting Cade move within a moving pocket allowing Cade to see the whole field. There are other receivers open but with the scheme Riley uses now Cade is only executing and focused on the first read only. Cade is built to have flexibility to run or pass to whoever is open. Thats his strength . Let the big Tiger loose and success will happen.

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Re: You shouldn't claim to be part of a family...


Oct 23, 2023, 9:51 AM [ in reply to You shouldn't claim to be part of a family... ]

Families argue, disagree, and fight. Simply having an opinion some don't agree with should not get you thrown out of the family.

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Who got thrown out?***

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Oct 23, 2023, 9:55 AM



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Re: Who got thrown out?***

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:11 AM

Metaphorically speaking, based on many comments that followed. I argued in another post that I am part of the 100%, just like everyone else. If your point is there is no 98.5 and 1.5, so why even bring it up, then we are on the same page.

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My point is there is absolutely a small percentage of fans...

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:17 AM

at every level of sport, who are a burden. They have unrealistic expectations. They feel they know how to handle situations better than coaches, but with less information. They repeat complaints, over, and over, and over. They are a distraction to the team. They are toxic to a program. So call them 1.5%ers, toxic fans, whatever you'd like, but they definitely exist at all levels.

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+1, but I'm ready for society to dump "toxic", it makes me giggle...***

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:31 AM



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Re: My point is there is absolutely a small percentage of fans...

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:35 AM [ in reply to My point is there is absolutely a small percentage of fans... ]

No disagreement with that but there are also another 1.5% on the other end of the tail who wear orange colored glasses, with a glass filled with orange Kool-aid, who will not accept any criticism at all regardless of what is actually going on with the program. They just enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing. They can be equally frustrating for those who don't think like that.

This is just the world we all live in and none of that is going to change so why even bring it up and attract all of this negative attention to the program when there are real issues to deal with. I know it was mainly said out of frustration which was unfortunate.

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Of course there is, and then there's a bunch who suggest you're defending...

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:38 AM

something you're not, or that you're not unhappy, dissatisfied, disappointed, frustrated et al because you're not rolling around on the floor with them, kicking and screaming.

And I thought Dabo was pretty clear about the 1pt5ers that create issues for the program. I don't believe blind faith would fall under that umbrella, which is a significant difference?



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Re: Of course there is, and then there's a bunch who suggest you're defending...

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Oct 23, 2023, 11:00 AM

I think the issue is that the statement is difficult to quantify on many levels so the readers or listeners are left to fill in the blanks. For example, where did 1.5% come from? We know that was arbitrary. There was no scientific study done to statistically calculate it out. And who does he define as being part of that percentage? The statement was pretty broad and leaves you wondering where the demarcation lies.

Why are we trying so hard to make it credible? It was a statement said out of frustration that didn't really serve anything positive and just brought us unwanted national scrutiny for a week or so.

Dabo is human and he is allowed to make those mistakes even though he is paid well to try and avoid them. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing this might be one where he would like a mulligan if he had the opportunity.

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Agree, I believe sensitive people have sensitive issues. I don't see...

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Oct 23, 2023, 11:25 AM

a quantifiable issue, we all know that element exists so he rightly discussed it.

To me too much is being made of a number, it's not remotely the issue some seem intent on making it, but maybe that's just me? It has been a blast to play with though; see sensitive people with sensitive issues.

And it was much higher, when there were Quackers, so maybe 3.5% got better, jumped ship or died off?

I thought it was crystal clear and if a statement of existence gets people to take pause, then that's a good think in my book. There are plenty of things going on at all times with in and out of an organization, program, business and on and on and on. Not sure the best thing, if you're not an outsider hoping to create consternation, is to make it more difficult for something you claim devout, eternal fealty? To me, that makes no sense.

As for credibility, if the element exists, then statement is absolutely credible. I understand there are those that wish he hadn't, that's ok, they've the right, but I'd much rather it not exist and don't blame anyone for defending their program because it does.

I would be more worried if someone didn't as they're likely publicly defending & talking more to their team, while also speaking to the future = recruits, their parents, coaches, advisors, unfortunately handlers and others involved.

It seems really emotional for some, which honestly isn't in my wheelhouse.

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Sure...

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:42 AM [ in reply to Re: My point is there is absolutely a small percentage of fans... ]

There are extremes on both ends. Doesn't make either correct.

And when you try and be reasonable, you are placed in one group or the other. I'm not bothered at all when 1.5% is called out. I'm not bothered when others try and force me into the other 1.5% box either. I know what I think. I know that I try and evaluate every situation with an open mind, using all the facts available to me. I also know I'll never have all the facts, so I draw my conclusions accordingly. I think that's what all good sea captains, generals, and coaches do as well.

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I agree with this post.

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Oct 23, 2023, 12:01 PM

Extremes on either side of anything, don't make sense to me either.

Seems like this is what American culture as devolved into, but don't get me started on that one.

I know you're a "pumper" but I think you do things the right way. You never attack people, or try and make anyone look small. You pretty much always air on the side of the coach and his program, and why not? He'll go down as the best coach in Clemson history. We don't have all the information, you're correct, but I do trust my eyes after devoting too much of my life of 50+ years into Clemson football.

I just can't help to feel that Dabo is not making the right adjustments, yet. I sincerely hope he figures it out. I really do. But what we saw on Saturday was embarrassing, especially watching with my friend from back home who's huge FSU fan.

I wish I had all the optimism you do! Right now I just see a slow and steady slide of a program who's all-world coach is making changes too slowly.

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Re: He isnt Insult the fans

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Oct 22, 2023, 3:41 PM [ in reply to He didn't Insult the fans ]

Doing that is childish and petulant.

I guess that is who Dabo is though.

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Re: He didn't Insult the fans


Oct 23, 2023, 9:31 AM [ in reply to He didn't Insult the fans ]

It shocks me you continue to defend his poor behavior

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It is the truth.***

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Re: It is the truth.***

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Oct 23, 2023, 9:45 AM

Would it be truthful if I were to say he needs to be more worried about winning ballgames than he does some small percentage of a fan base? Truth is that if were in fact such a small group he wouldn’t have felt the need to address it. The roar is getting louder and louder and His idea of damage control is to try and silence his internal critics by insulting them. That is not the behavior of a professional or even stable person and following those comments up with a loss underscored it. I hope he can get it together for Clemson’s sake but I’m not sure he has the tools mentally to do so. Time will tell

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Have you ever been a college coach?

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Oct 23, 2023, 9:51 AM

Have you ever been a coach at any level? If so, did you have to deal with the nonsense that a small minority of fans bring to the table, every. single. week? Are fans asking him to do something they are not doing themselves, and something which they have no experience doing? Which one is not stable in that situation?




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Re: Have you ever been a college coach?

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:17 AM

I have, and you have to deal with a lot of angry and frustrated parents (fans) in a role like that. It comes with the territory and like it or not, they were still part of the family, even if they weren't my favorite part of the family.

The difference for me was that I wasn't getting paid $11.5M per year to put up with it...

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And you weren't forced to sit and be asked these questions

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:28 AM

over, and over and over. I would assume in your role as a coach you had a plan and you were fully aware of your team's capabilities, deficiencies, and what you needed to do to correct them without having a small percentage of parents tell you their thoughts, repeatedly. Every day. Over and over.

I am willing to bet no one cared more about the success of that team than you. You probably poured yourself into making that team successful. You knew that the parents yelling from the fence intended well, but had no idea what was really going on on that field. They didn't know what defense was actually called. They didn't know the guy who made the tackle didn't actually make the play, the corner who stayed home and turned it inside did. They didn't know the QB sack was due to a WR running the wrong route, not the line making a mistake. They don't know anything you called. They only complain about the result. You know though. You have the information. You understand what they do not because you know what they do not.

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Re: And you weren't forced to sit and be asked these questions

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:36 AM

All true, I just didn't have the luxury of letting some of them know how I really felt about them without setting off a war ;)

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Re: And you weren't forced to sit and be asked these questions

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:39 AM

Even though they had NO problem letting me know how THEY felt. That is just the way it is, whether it is Pee Wee football or D1 football.

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Re: And you weren't forced to sit and be asked these questions

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:42 AM

Oh, trust me, I got asked A LOT of questions. I just didn't have to do it in front of the world. But I also didn't have to answer in front of the world either, which is why you have to be careful what you say at that level in this day and time of instant communications.

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Re: Have you ever been a college coach?


Oct 23, 2023, 10:35 AM [ in reply to Have you ever been a college coach? ]

But you want Brownell fired, right?

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I defend CBB


Oct 23, 2023, 8:01 PM

And you don’t have to take my word for it…

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/sadly,-i-thought-you-were-smart-enough-to-know-that-even....-33407879


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Re: It is the truth.***

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:04 AM [ in reply to Re: It is the truth.*** ]

Maybe he was asked about it?
Have heard Saban mention his complacent fans as well in leaving early. Spurrier did the same thing at SC. It was really no big deal and actually truthful.
If you don’t want to support the team and think Dabo is a buffoon then pull for someone else. No need to ##### about it. I have definitely heard worse but of course everything Dabo ever does gets magnified.


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Re: It is the truth.***


Oct 23, 2023, 10:24 AM

I guess it is fair for Dabo to tell the fans to adjust their attitudes about some things since that is exactly what the fans have been asking him to do. The question is whether or not it actually changes anything.

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He addressed 1.5%...

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:30 AM

that's all. Of 82,000 fans at a sold out game, that's only 1,215 fans. He said the other 80,785 fans are "amazing".




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


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Oct 23, 2023, 10:45 AM

Come on, you know that 1.5% was a "pull out of your butt number." He addressed way more than 1.5% given where the program is right now. And the reality is, he addressed 100%. Some just took it differently than others.


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I don't think he did a statistical analysis...

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Oct 23, 2023, 10:47 AM

but it was an accurate way to convey that toxic (my word) fans make up a very small percentage of any fan base.

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Oct 23, 2023, 11:06 AM

I honestly don't know how small the % is but given the current circumstances, I think it is quite a bit more than 1.5%. It doesn't really matter. I don't think he really changed any minds with his comments but he certainly got a lot of people talking about it, both within and outside of the family. We can debate whether that helps or hurts the program and image.


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The actual percentage is irrelevant...

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Oct 23, 2023, 11:18 AM

it's small. It's always been small. It's not going to change. The real issue here was identified by Matt Groening...

"...I think it’s a time in our culture where people love to pretend they’re offended.”

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Oct 23, 2023, 11:20 AM

I like the quote. Good discussion, thanks for having a rational conversation and giving us both a chance to flush it out a bit more.

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spot on. dabo with the egg on his face today***

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Oct 22, 2023, 3:35 PM

Cry more! 🤣🤣🤣

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Re: Insult the fans

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Oct 22, 2023, 6:36 PM

I am not concerned about being insulted - I am not insulted by Dabo's remarks.

I do, however, notice that he is doing everything in his arsenal to avoid legitimate criticism that is obviously justified given this team's performance.

Until he is willing to look in the mirror - and address the legitimate criticisms - there will be no progress at Clemson.

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Oct 23, 2023, 9:43 AM

Lmfao y’all call him thin skinned yet you have think skin. It blows my mind that people honestly believe coaches/athletes are just robots who you should be able to bash nonstop without them ever saying a word. Y’all will post 24/7 365 about how Dabo is so #### terrible then cry when he says something. Not to mention it was just comment in conversation it’s not like it was a rant directly to the fans as it was made out to be. He should’ve probably kept quiet but I do find it ####### HILARIOUS how butt hurt people are when they dish it out all the time.

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Oct 23, 2023, 9:37 AM

I was never insulted.

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Oct 23, 2023, 2:11 AM

Just curious, do you consider yourself part of the 98.5 or 1.5? Or, like most of us, just part of the 100, warts and all.


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ALL IN GO DABO - GO TIGERS


Oct 23, 2023, 11:22 AM

You all just haven't experience REALLY bad years and coaches

GO TIGERS

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Re: ALL IN GO DABO - GO TIGERS


Oct 23, 2023, 11:35 AM

There’s a large portion of fans on this board who have been here during Hatfield, West and Bowden years. Those provided some frustrating seasons. Then again, if you don’t win it all, there is always some frustration. Just how it goes.

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Oct 23, 2023, 11:33 AM

He complimented 98.5% of the fans. Why are so many worried?

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Oct 23, 2023, 12:58 PM

I have read all of the posts on this thread. Do I think Dabo was wrong about his comments? Yes I do. I think the percentage RIGHT NOW is much higher than 1.5.%. Was I offended by his comment? Not at all. I think it’s funny that people are making jokes about it and claiming to be a 1.5er.
I’ve been attending Clemson games 50 of the 59 years I’ve been alive. Home games, away games and bowl games. I was attending when the coach was Red Parker (I think that was his name?) so I’m not a bandwagon fan and I’ve seen some bad years. If I didn’t see them I heard my dad talking about them. When Charley Pell came along we thought we hit the jackpot and then came the bowl games. Wow!
I say this due to all the people on here who defend Dabo by stating they’ve been through bad years so they won’t criticize him due to his success. I’m very thankful for the success in the last 10 years BUT we are in the present now.
What is going on now ALSO affects our future.
Dabo has shown he’s very stubborn and refuses to make changes quickly and who knows how this is going to affect our future success and recruiting. I can see many players in the transfer portal when this season ends.

The main thing going through my female brain after reading all these comments is this:
That cat makes approximately 11 million dollars a year. AGAIN, $11 million dollars a year! That is a $hit load of money that most of us can only dream about. Do your job, make it right and get us out of this hole where your bad decisions have got us lately. I don’t dislike Dabo but this is getting old. Let’s gooooooo! Go tigers always

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