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The dumbest hire in the past 50 years of football
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The dumbest hire in the past 50 years of football

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:24 PM

Wes Goodwin.

That was the downfall. Everyone can talk about the OC, but this defense is what we were on.

Wes freaking Goodwin was a volunteer baseball coach-volunteer assistant

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You might make a better case for that if

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:26 PM

The D wasn’t the one unit playing like a FBS football team today.

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:27 PM

Not a fan of the hire either but they only gave up a little over 200 yards today.

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Re: The dumbest hire in the past 50 years of football

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Oct 16, 2023, 9:44 PM

No lol.

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:28 PM

Thomas Austin dumbest hire.

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:30 PM

It’s between him and Grisham.

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Re: The dumbest hire in the past 50 years of football

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:27 PM

Clemson's defense is #1 in the ACC , and top 10 nationally. Are you finished drinking for the day ?

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Meaningless. They have lost their edge.

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:33 PM

This is not an aggressive d, at all. Massive fails at the worst possible time virtually every single game. Not good at tackling. Lb's are lost. Just wait till that d isnt littered with elite talent. Imagine wes coaching a defense that isnt vastly superior talent wise to virtually every team we play. Scary.

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Re: Meaningless. They have lost their edge.

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:29 PM

Here's what I finally realized about our D today - we don't have a leader or identity. We used to have that guy - CW, Boulware, Skalski. We don't have any of them, they don't look like they're enjoying it and it's just a balance brand of defense. We're not bad, but we also don't have that pop, that swagger that we used to

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Oct 28, 2023, 9:19 PM [ in reply to Re: The dumbest hire in the past 50 years of football ]

They play awesome for most plays, but the plays where we have nobody within 10 yards and results in a score is what I don't understand. There is a lot of those, obviously.

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:28 PM

No, Mrs. Grisham, just no

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The defense gave up 17 points and

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:28 PM

is still best in the conference despite being continuously run back onto the field.

None of this falls on Goodwin.

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Lol you're an idiot

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:28 PM

D held nc state to 200 yds of offense
120 on 2 plays so the 96% of the game held them to 80 yds.

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Re: Lol you're an idiot

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:49 PM

You r absolutely correct Defense not bad. Anything and everything about our offense SUCKS

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We have a long list of problems but defense is nowhere near the top.***

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Re: The dumbest hire in the past 50 years of football

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:29 PM

I'd like to find a competent group of coaches for offense first before we go riding the defensive coaches out of town.

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Re: The dumbest hire in the past 50 years of football

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:31 PM

Thomas Austin dumbest hire.

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:36 PM

Yup. That was the hire that sold me that we have a "friends and family" hiring issue with the coaching staff.

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:41 PM [ in reply to Re: The dumbest hire in the past 50 years of football ]

Excellent ! TFL 28

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Re: The dumbest hire in the past 50 years of football


Oct 28, 2023, 6:31 PM

So Wes turned the ball over twice leading to 14 points? Got it. Some of you never cease to amaze me.

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:42 PM

The Pick 6 is 100% on the Offense. Allowing a 50 plus yard run right after the turnover FOR THE SECOND WEEK IN A ROW is fatally on Wes’s group. Both those mes inthe 1st Qtr so I don’t wanna hear that o the field too much garbage. The garbage coaching hires are on both sides of the all and Wes is one of the IMO

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:15 PM

Dude why don't you just shut the eff up. I'm sick and tired of your BS. This defense is top 10 in the country try 2 years in a row, how is he a bad hire? Did you even graduate high school you dumb ####?

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:15 PM [ in reply to Re: The dumbest hire in the past 50 years of football ]

Dude why don't you just shut the eff up. I'm sick and tired of your BS. This defense is top 10 in the country try 2 years in a row, how is he a bad hire? Did you even graduate high school you dumb ####?

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I beg to differ

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:33 PM

NCS managed 202 total yards. Defense is playing winning football. Not getting any help.

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:35 PM

I cannot dump on Wes until the offense improves. Too many three and outs.

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:37 PM

The D is the only bright spot we have. Only gave up a little over 200 today and had some of our better tacklers out.

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:38 PM

The D is not the reason we are losing. They are not elite but they are pretty good.

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You must be confused

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:39 PM

Wes coaches the defense, not offense.

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Rob Spence says hold my unemployment check***


Oct 28, 2023, 6:40 PM



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Goodwin is fine.

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Oct 28, 2023, 6:44 PM

I'm skeptical of Austin and I'm skeptical of Grisham. Neither have elite experience and our groups aren't getting better.

I think we let Robbie stay on too long and missed a major recruiting class or two as a result. Thomas would be a plug and play instead of a wait and see.

I think many also took Jeff Scott for granted in the WR room. These were the first changes made on the coaching staff and these two groups are what I would consider underperforming.

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Re: Goodwin is fine.


Oct 28, 2023, 7:06 PM

I think the offense problem boils down to Klubnik. His decisions are not good. He doesn’t see wide open receivers. He’s not what you need and after this many games. Don’t see him greatly improving

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Re: Goodwin is fine.

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:26 PM

blue ridge said:

I think the offense problem boils down to Klubnik. His decisions are not good. He doesn’t see wide open receivers. He’s not what you need and after this many games. Don’t see him greatly improving


Worst QB since Cullen Harper. Has the mentality of a HS freshman, can't read the field, after almost 2 years continually runs away from the line of scrimmage and throws up wounded ducks, can't run the RPO and the best was faking to Ship and trying to outrun the Miami D to the endzone. I've seen enough of this kid.

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:43 PM [ in reply to Re: Goodwin is fine. ]

I think that it is more that he doesn't want to throw it unless they are wide open. He almost never throws in rhythm. He holds the ball too long and as another poster points out runs away from the LOS instead of stepping up. The o line is bad, but Cade doesn't do them any favors.

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Re: The dumbest hire in the past 50 years of football

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:07 PM

nope...... check the OL coaching or WR coaching.....

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:08 PM

Are you freaking blind?!the defense played well, it is the offense that can’t play. Dang, pay attention.

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:12 PM

Just like the phrase "It's the economy, Stupid" in the 92 election

"It's the OL, Stupid"

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:13 PM

We held NC state to its worst average yards per play in 10 years. None of this is on wes. And BTW, Venables lost to Kansas today......how's that aggressive defense working for him. Being g aggressive all the time will lead to busted coverages and missed assignments. There's a time and place for it, but it's not all the time.

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:45 PM

Venables was a Fantastic Recruiter

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Thomas Austin says hold my double fudge milkshake***

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:16 PM



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Oct 28, 2023, 7:27 PM

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Too funny

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solid, lol...***


Oct 28, 2023, 10:42 PM [ in reply to Thomas Austin says hold my double fudge milkshake*** ]



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Wes would have beat Kansas.***

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:31 PM



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No. The D has held up better than expected


Oct 28, 2023, 7:38 PM

considering they know that only one mistake by them will mean a loss since the offense can't score,
and will give the other team points. Wes is no where near the top of the list of our problems.

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Oct 28, 2023, 7:45 PM

How in the crap do you conclude that? If our offens was an average acc unit we’d be undefeated. Where do you come up with this kind of stuff?

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Dumbest post in all of TNET***


Oct 28, 2023, 8:07 PM



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Re: The dumbest hire in the past 50 years of football

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Oct 28, 2023, 8:09 PM

I can’t TD you but I can do this. 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻. Not a dumb hire.

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No way, you are just wrong


Oct 28, 2023, 8:28 PM

The defense is playing well. Made a ton of stops today

They gave up 17 points

Had crappy field position

And 7 of those came off another turnover

Now the offense? That group sucks

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Oct 28, 2023, 8:38 PM

We are not losing because the defense.

We are losing because we have a horrible quarterback, mediocre offensive line and an inconsistent kicker.

Receivers, running backs and the entire defense are all above average. These guys are not causing us to lose games. We could easily be undefeated with those guys, but not with Klubnik.

Last week and this week the receivers caught quite a few really poorly thrown passes. They are playing well.

Klubnik has no clue how to manage himself in the pocket. No instinct. No intuition. I dont know if it’s gonna improve. I just don’t think he has the intangibles. I would like him to be our second string quarterback, unfortunately the cupboard is bare behind him for the rest of this season. Hopefully we go to the portal for a QB.

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I can name 6 dumber


Oct 28, 2023, 8:40 PM

-Thomas Austin
-Tyler Grisham
-CJ Spiller
-Kyle Richardson
-Bill Spiers
-Brad Brownell

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Oct 28, 2023, 9:13 PM

You forgot Tajh Boyd. Offensive Player Development assistant.

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I thought the D looked good today***


Oct 28, 2023, 8:45 PM



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Hogwash! 95% of our many problems are offense.


Oct 28, 2023, 8:54 PM

I’m no cheerleader for Wes. But our defense has played well enough for us to be 7-1. We don’t have a single offensive position group playing well this year.

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Oct 28, 2023, 10:43 PM

The defense is the only reason why all these losses are even close. The offense is responsible for as many points given up as they are

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Oct 28, 2023, 10:46 PM

Exactly, everyone’s giving him credit from what’s left of BVs system! Same way Elliot ran the offense into the ground Goodwin will do the same with the defense. The Sunshine pumpers always want to wait to see the full meltdown before they believe change needs to happen

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