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OMG are you ok?***
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Re: Masks
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I am also still very angry about the masks. They almost ruined my life. This one time I had to wear one to go in and get some groceries. It was he'll. I barely survived. I relate to people who fought in Vietnam and were wounded. I am just glad I am alive to tell future generations of the misery I survived. Glad you made it as well Tom. You're not alone.
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Cungrats, you brought out the good little commies...***
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Re: Cungrats, you brought out the good little commies...***
Aug 22, 2023, 6:56 AM
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How am I a commie again? Do you even know what you're saying?
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Re: Cungrats, you brought out the good little commies...***
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Yes a commie - It was all about control
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Re: Cungrats, you brought out the good little commies...***
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Republicans needlessly died at a higher rate from covid due to misinformation but please do keep spreading your nonsense.
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But they died free of government tyranny, and that's really
Aug 22, 2023, 8:41 AM
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what it's all about, son.
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Oh, and private business tyranny. Let's not forget that.***
Aug 22, 2023, 8:43 AM
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CTom doesn't like to discuss excess death measures...
Aug 22, 2023, 10:25 AM
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they are "fake news".
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Orange Blooded [2053]
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Indeed, dying from covid to own the libs is the saddest
Aug 22, 2023, 10:40 AM
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Own goal.
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Oooohhhh…The NIH says so….***
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Wanna know why Trump and his ilk want to tear down....
Aug 22, 2023, 10:36 AM
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institutions? Here's a great example.
Let me guess...someone is manipulating the excess death stats to further world domination...right?
Just about anything can be dismissed these days. Makes believing in whatever is sold to you SOOO much easier.
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Do I want to tear down money laundering
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institutions that repeatedly lie to me.....Yes. Yes I do.
You need to be more worried about monkey pox than covid.
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ok***
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Re: Oooohhhh…The NIH says so….***
Aug 22, 2023, 10:38 AM
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You’re right, it’s not truth social, we should discard it.
Nothing is true! (Except for bad things dems do of course!)
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Re: Oooohhhh…The NIH says so….***
Aug 22, 2023, 3:16 PM
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it's the same people making money off the vaxxes
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Still false.***
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Re: Still false.***
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I mean, we are abundantly aware that you deny facts. This isn't a surprise.
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Re: False.***
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Open your eyes and see the world around you!!
it's all BS you keep soaking up
Again, I ask where are the CDC American Death numbers??? They were always posted like april/may for the previous year but they are still running 2020 estimates. Why????Where are they
Still only have this
If Covid was not a scam we would of tons of charts but it DOES NOT FIT their narrative
Fact is 2020 was flat and 2021 is higher and 2022 even higher and so on - Deaths are up from vaxes not down
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All I can do is point and laugh, you are beyond hope.***
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Re: All I can do is point and laugh, you are beyond hope.***
Aug 22, 2023, 10:09 PM
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find the CDC data that before the fakedemic was always available
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I don't have a twitter account, sorry***
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El Cid really did a number on ol' Crass
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after 4 years of involuntary knobbing of other knobs, eating powdered eggs in the mess hall, sleeping inches away from other cadets sweaty ### and balls, sneaking out on the weekends to tame some horrific strange ... any form of "oppression" in his post-Cid life are met with immediate hostility, no matter how sane or mundane the mandate may be.
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What's it like being the "horrific strange"...?***
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You’re out of your element, Donny.
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You have no sense of humor and are easily offended. This place may not be for you.
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How feeble. Dish it but can't take it... Poor baby. I'm here***
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Re: Masks
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Forced mask wearing was never about the "science", it was about compliance. It's pretty telling how quickly presumably intelligent people threw common sense out of the window when they were told to do so and to blindly comply.
Heck if the CDC told them tomorrow that they needed to start hopping on one leg everywhere they went, in order to stop the spread, they would all start proudly doing so while calling anyone who didn't a selfish, fascist, grandmother killer who clearly knows nothing about "science".
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Complient little commies don't care that masks don't work***
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Re: Complient little commies don't care that masks don't work***
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Certain masks did cut down on the transmition. Anyway, th masks were no big deal. Only absolute *ussies cried about having to wear one while everything was being figured out. What everyone should agree upon though is that those long lockdowns were absolute BS and a total disaster.
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Re: Masks
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It never had anything to do with just making people compliment for the sake of being compliment. That's laughable. They believed.
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Compliant..
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I wasn't a proponent of mask requirements...
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especially in private businesses.
But with that said, the line about mask requirements being "more about compliance" is unfounded gibberish. Who, specifically, wanted compliance? And was everyone, from local business owners, to city councils, to state-level administrators and so on...all on board to force compliance?
And even if you believe all of that...to what end?
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I’m not a proponent of shirt requirements in restaurants …
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Especially for the women.
Looking at boobies would be a great way to pass the time between ordering and getting food. Probably would cut down on appetizer orders, so not likely to happen. Guess I will have to settle for fried pickles and another beer.
What’s this thread about….
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And why end masks, if it's about compliance?
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And how does a mask make you more compliant than without a mask? You have to have a shirt and shoes to enter most businesses...is that about compliance? Looks like NCTigerFan23 has been licking boots long before it was cool.
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Re: Masks
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Forced mask wearing was never about the "science", it was about compliance. It's pretty telling how quickly presumably intelligent people threw common sense out of the window when they were told to do so and to blindly comply.
Heck if the CDC told them tomorrow that they needed to start hopping on one leg everywhere they went, in order to stop the spread, they would all start proudly doing so while calling anyone who didn't a selfish, fascist, grandmother killer who clearly knows nothing about "science".
Masks did NOT work for COVID 19 but the liberals posting on this subject will not discuss that. Comments like wearing a mask was so awful and same as fighting in a war has nothing to do with that fact.
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Re: Masks
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Certain masks did slow transfer from one human to another. You're ignorant.
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No, the vaccines did that... or, uh...***
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Re: Masks
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> Forced mask wearing was never about the "science", it was about compliance.
Such a clown take. Stop watching so much propaganda, it clearly works on people like you.
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Re: Masks
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Bullsh!t.
This is exactly a huge part of why I broke hard with the GOP and will remain independent henceforth. You MAGA's - and Good God you're a detestable lot, you really are - keep braying about what your "rights" are. Real Americans - and real men - understand that along with rights come responsibilities.
That word just does not seem to be on your hard drive. My guess is, it never really was.
The core of genuine conservatism is a sense of responsibility towards your fellow man, and the notion that you'll do the right thing not because the rules demand it but because, well, it's the right thing and that actually matters. The Party of Reagan started with the notion that we were the Good Guys, and smaller government and less regulation in no way relieved an individual of those responsibilities. In fact Reaganites - and we're admittedly a dying breed - think the opposite, that the more freedom you get, the more important doing the right thing gets. But MAGA is a pack of rude, boorish, nihilistic sociopaths who think being a rude selfish a$$hole is a virtue.
It is not, and has never been, a virtue. It also isn't "conservative". That's nihilism, and there's a profound difference. If you don't know the word - and it's obvious you don't - look it up. Because it describes MAGA to a "T".
And no, you do not have the "right" to kill some little old lady down the street because you're too lazy or too callous to wear the mask that might have protected her. Your rights stop where her nose begins. And COVID has killed 1.1 million people in America.
I'm sorry that created an inconvenience for you. I really am.
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Re: Masks
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Forced mask wearing was never about the "science", it was about compliance. It's pretty telling how quickly presumably intelligent people threw common sense out of the window when they were told to do so and to blindly comply.
Right on, man! That's what I yelled at the nurse in the doctor's office before I bragged to her that I knew the president of the hospital.
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I hated the masks and had problems with them too
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But I'll be ###### if I ever look to Rob Schneider for guidance in life.
The fact that you trust sources like that and not actual reputable sources says all we need to know.
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He should atleast wait til Pete Davidson posts his expert
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That's who you are following to get it.
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Please allow me to translate this into something you might
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understand. Maybe.
Ok, so say there are 1 million illegal aliens, fentanyl traffickers, child sex traffickers, prostitutes, cartel kingpins, and rapists in Mexico, all positioned along a spot in the US border waiting to enter the United States illegally and do their damage.
Now you have two options. Option one is to do nothing, and they all flow into the US freely, and do their damage. The other option is to build a wall, a wall that keeps 98% of them from entering, but is not perfect and allows 20,000 to somehow sneak through.
So would you mandate a wall being built? Would the wall be a useful thing to keep 980,000 vile criminals out, while only allowing 20,000 to slip through? Or since it's not a perfect solution, do you just ####can the whole idea and allow unrestricted entry?
I'll wang up and listen.
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Re: Please allow me to translate this into something you might
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> The other option is to build a wall, a wall that keeps 98% of them from entering,
Yeah, this claim is doing a lot of work here. Show me where it would keep that many out. We do have a partial wall, and they just scale it without issue.
I'm not convinced Trump's border wall was about anything other than riling you guys up.
When a central Pennsylvanian republican is all worked up about the southern border, you know how well it works, too.
> I'll wang up and listen.
You should really do that more.
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That’s a really poor analogy.
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In the world we live in, mask mandates allowed just about anything that covered your face—bandanas, Lycra neck gaiters, cheap ear loop masks. Those filter from 10-30% of the droplets that cause the virus. So if 100 virus-infected droplets are heading towards your face, 70-90 of those droplets are making it through.
It’s like saying that 1,000,000 murderers are coming from Mexico, and all of them are out to kill you in clusters of 10. In response we are going to require that every man, woman, and child go stand on the border with homemade nets so we can snag 1-3 of those murders at a time if we encounter a cluster of them, nevermind 7-9 of them are ducking our net and have knives raised.
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Re: That’s a really poor analogy.
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Please God not this again.
No, a loose mask doesn't really protect you from incoming droplets because you're breathing in, and if the air has droplets containing the virus you'll breath the majority of those too.
What it does do is prevent you from expelling the majority of your droplets. In a nutshell: your mask protects me. My mask protects you.
This is not a hard concept. And surgical masks and N95 masks are far more effective.
I will agree our pandemic response was disorganized, incoherent, and scattershot. Which is exactly why we need to put our heads together now and come up with a more coherent - and universal - national response that can scale up or down based on changing information...because the defining attribute of any new pandemic is, we don't know how severe a particular virus is or how exactly it spreads in the beginning. And this will not be the last one. Even if this one was an accident or a lab leak, the next one likely won't be. And we're entering an edge where any lunatic with a protein synthesizer could potentially unleash the Black Death Redux out of their garage printer. If we don't figure this out, at some point we're going to start dropping like flies.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9947910/ Effectiveness of N95 Mask in Preventing COVID-19 Transmission N95 mask has emerged as a potential measure to mitigate the airborne transmission of respiratory disease such as COVID-19. Herein, we experimentally investigated the impact and interaction of pure water droplets as surrogate to respiratory droplets with ...
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It works in reverse too, jeeeez.
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If you’re breathing out 10 virus infected droplets, it’s stopping 1-3 of them at most, with the masks we were allowing in the name of pandemic performance art.
You can cite N95 studies all you want but maybe 5% of the people you saw in any public setting were wearing them.
With the plethora of studies now showing the general ineffectiveness of masks as we handled it, this seems like a weird hill to still be dying on.
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Re: Please allow me to translate this into something you might
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If walls didn't work the left wouldn't throw a hissy fit any time building one was mentioned. Would it alleviate the entire problem of illegal immigration? Of course not, but it would definitely have an impact which is why Biden would rather sell off the materials that have already been purchased for pennies on the dollar than to go ahead and put them to good use.
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Since it was all a hoax, of course masks were silly. Isn't that your take Tom? COVID was a total hoax. Putin, Trump, Xi and all the world leaders along with morticians, rank and file doctors and nurses all were in on this elaborate hoax and achieved their goal--which was what?
The mask's primary usefulness was lessening the expulsion of the virus from those that were infected and perhaps not even aware. High quality N95 masks were fairly effective in protecting health care workers constantly exposed to those with the virus.
Standard surgical masks and cloth masks were for the most part useless.
Those that complied with mask wearing are now mindless robots awaiting spontaneous combustion which was the goal of the global elites to begin with?
Masks were annoying, but most of us are over it. You do you brother.
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It didn’t lessen anything.***
Aug 22, 2023, 9:38 AM
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Heisman Winner [138106]
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Except that it did. Nothing about this is binary like you're
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Aug 22, 2023, 9:40 AM
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trying to make it. You're either not smart enough to grasp this, or you're intentionally trying to obfuscate.
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It did.
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Aug 22, 2023, 10:18 AM
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Masks had a positive effect.
Now, did we take it too far? Yes. People didn't need to wear them outdoors, or double up on them, or be as militant with kids with them, etc.
Is it possible there were sound COVID prevention methods while there were also some ridiculous ones? Yes, those two can both exist.
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Re: It did.
Aug 22, 2023, 12:15 PM
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Let me ask you a question and I promise I’m not looking for a debate. I don’t care to debate Covid any longer. Do you know anyone who was religious about the mask wearing during Covid who did not eventually get Covid? I don’t know a single one. Just curious.
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Re: It did.
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Aug 22, 2023, 12:33 PM
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I do.
I also know people who weren't religious at all about it, like myself in many cases, and never got it. I don't think that really tells us much; that's just anecdotal.
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Re: It did.
Aug 22, 2023, 12:46 PM
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Fair enough.
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Yes, but I will concede that it doesn't prove anything one
Aug 22, 2023, 12:51 PM
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way or another on it's own.
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Re: Yes, but I will concede that it doesn't prove anything one
Aug 22, 2023, 12:55 PM
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Again, fair enough.
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No it didn’t***
Aug 22, 2023, 2:38 PM
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I'll answer, no...no he doesn't care about the truth...
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Aug 22, 2023, 4:21 PM
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he's a proven liar
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You're lying. You know you're lying. Just stop.
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Aug 22, 2023, 5:10 PM
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The only thing they left in was quotes where they could make the "peaceful" sound sarcastic. They omitted several statements that were more directly telling people to stay within the rules.
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Why don't you care about the truth?***
Aug 22, 2023, 7:22 PM
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There is no surer sign of someone reading propaganda...
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Aug 22, 2023, 6:34 PM
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than being against wearing masks (N95) or not understanding that they work.
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Re: Masks
Aug 23, 2023, 5:48 PM
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Do people still get the flu ?
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Team Captain [487]
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Re: Masks
Aug 23, 2023, 9:07 PM
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Serius , I’m a Moran I know but what happened?
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