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YOUR BALANCE
Looking at the Scholarship Breakdown
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Looking at the Scholarship Breakdown

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Nov 2, 2023, 5:23 PM

This is what I've got. I'm certainly no expert in this so please correct anything inaccurate.

Eligibility Expired:
Paul Tyson
Ruke Orhorhoro
Tyler Davis
Xavier Thomas
Justin Mascoll
Jalyn Phillips
Sheridan Jones
Aiden Swanson
Will Putnam
Mitchell Mayes
RJ Mickens

Total 11

85-11 = 74


Eligible For Covid Year/medical (any player on roster during the 2020 season gets 6 years to compete in 4 seasons (not counting redshirt year?)):
Brannon Spector
Walker Parks
Tyler Venables

Eligible for Draft but could return:
Hunter Helms
Will Shipley
Phil Mafah
Dominique Thomas
Troy Stellato
Brannon Spector
Beaux Collins
Jake Briningstool
Sage Ennis
Ryan Linthicum
Dietrick Pennington
Walker Parks
Triston Leigh
Bryn Tucker
Marcus Tate
John Williams
Tre Williams
DeMonte Capehart
Payton Page
Cade Denhoff
Barrett Carter
Jeremiah Trotter Jr.
Nate Wiggins
Andrew Mukuba
Tyler Venables
Holden Caspersen

HS Commits:
Sammy Brown
Bryant Wesco
TJ Moore
Christian Bentancur
Darien Mayo
Ricardo Jones
Corian Gipson
Tavoy Feagin
Noah Dixon
Adam Kissayi
David Eziomume
Hevin Brown-Shuler
Champ Thompson
Ashton Hampton
Ronan O'Connell
Drew Woodaz
Nolan Hauser

Total 17

If all eligible players were to return:
(85-11) = 74 + 17 = 91

Players likely not to return (there will certainly be others):
Carter
Trotter
Wiggins
Mukuba

91-4 = 87

How many players portal out? Hard to say at this point. We'd have to guess 10-15 if the last few years' trend continues. Let's just go with the lower end at 10.

87-10 = 77

Assuming others leave for the draft we may be looking at 8-10 scholarships short in December/January. How many more do we take in the 2024 class and do we finally hit the portal hard?

I'll try to keep this updated as players announce intentions.


Message was edited by: CUAtTheFinishLine®

Edited to remove Putnam, Mayes and Mickens as their eligibility expires


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We have not lost 10-15 players to the portal for one year***


Nov 2, 2023, 5:28 PM



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Yes we have

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Nov 2, 2023, 5:36 PM

11 in 2022
12 in 2023

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I was wrong***


Nov 2, 2023, 6:01 PM



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Re: Yes we have


Nov 2, 2023, 6:22 PM [ in reply to Yes we have ]

Is that including the guys who left football all together? I don't seem to recall that many entering the portal tbh. 23 players in 2 years is alot.

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Re: Yes we have


Nov 2, 2023, 6:24 PM

OK I see where you got your info. Man did not seem like that many, that's a chunk of depth out the door.

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Re: Yes we have


Nov 2, 2023, 7:43 PM

It includes players kicked off the team.

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Only one of those that I know of.***


Nov 2, 2023, 10:23 PM



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the last 5 years we've averaged 8-10 leaving to the portal......


Nov 2, 2023, 6:24 PM [ in reply to Re: Yes we have ]

the last 3 years that average has ticked up a bit.

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We will not be that low of 85 scholarships, youre reaching big time***

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Nov 2, 2023, 5:29 PM



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Show us your math

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Nov 2, 2023, 5:37 PM

or do you only troll and TD without any facts?

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We wont be short of 85. We never have and never will***

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Nov 2, 2023, 6:02 PM



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Re: We wont be short of 85. We never have and never will***

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Nov 2, 2023, 6:05 PM

I’m not saying we will be short of 85 when all is said and done. Of course not. In the past we have given scholarships to walkons. We always hit the number, the question is, how are we going to hit that number this time?

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Re: Looking at the Scholarship Breakdown


Nov 2, 2023, 6:10 PM

At this juncture, I would count these players as returning:

Will Shipley
Phil Mafah
Dominique Thomas
Troy Stellato
Brannon Spector
Beaux Collins
Jake Briningstool
Sage Ennis
Ryan Linthicum
Will Putnam
Dietrick Pennington
Walker Parks
Triston Leigh
Bryn Tucker
Marcus Tate
John Williams
Mitchell Mayes
Tre Williams
DeMonte Capehart
Payton Page
Cade Denhoff
RJ Mickens
Tyler Venables
Holden Caspersen

These are the only ones that I see as possibly leaving:

Hunter Helms - Transfer out to get some playing time
Barrett Carter - NFL DRAFT
Jeremiah Trotter Jr. - NFL DRAFT
Nate Wiggins - NFL DRAFT
Andrew Mukuba - NFL DRAFT

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Where is Mukuba predicted to go in the draft


Nov 2, 2023, 6:12 PM

I know Carter, Wiggins, and Trotter are expected to be 1st or 2nd rounders

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Re: Looking at the Scholarship Breakdown


Nov 2, 2023, 7:38 PM [ in reply to Re: Looking at the Scholarship Breakdown ]

I think one of, if not both, Shipley and Mafah portal out. I could see Shipley bolting because he doesn’t seem to mesh well with CJ and would like a shot behind a better offensive line for his last year.

If Shipley stays I think Phil is definitely gone. But I could see both rolling out for the same reason above.

I think Randall possibly hits the road. I could see Spector going to a smaller school if he uses his Covid year.

Thomas may hit the portal if one of Phil and Shipley stay or both along with younger backs behind him.

I agree with you on helms. And then there’s likely a handful of depth players that seek better options.

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I think Randall is finally starting to put it


Nov 2, 2023, 8:09 PM

together on the field. I hope he balls out these last 4 games and becomes everything we thought he could be.
The size and skill is there. Reminds me of x Leggett for #####. Didn't do much until this year and it finally came together. Hopefully randall can do the same

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Re: Looking at the Scholarship Breakdown


Nov 2, 2023, 6:36 PM

Putnam is done.

He played in 11 games his fresheman year and burnt his RS. This is his 5th year. Covid year essentially gave him his redshirt back

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Re: Looking at the Scholarship Breakdown


Nov 2, 2023, 7:41 PM

Ah, sports reference doesn’t list all his games. I can take him off the list. Thanks.

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Re: Looking at the Scholarship Breakdown


Nov 2, 2023, 7:48 PM

If the Clemson profile page is accurate then Mayes and Mickens are also out of eligibility.

I’ve edited accordingly.

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I knew something like this would happen.


Nov 2, 2023, 8:48 PM

:(

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Doesn't RJ have a Covid year?***

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Nov 2, 2023, 10:01 PM



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Re: Doesn't RJ have a Covid year?***


Nov 2, 2023, 10:27 PM

According to his stats on his Clemsontigers.com profile he’s played 10 (2020), 13 (2021), 13 (2022) and 7 games this year. That would make him ineligible for a Covid year.

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