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I don't understand the 4 pt spread at FSU.
Oct 10, 2022, 6:44 AM
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I don't bet, but I follow the Vegas lines, as they are pretty close most of the time. FSU has played everyone close, but in their losses, it seems they have a hard time finishing teams out.
I think it's very similar to the NC State game...if we don't turn the ball over, we win.
Go Tigers!
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Re: I don't understand the 4 pt spread at FSU.
Oct 10, 2022, 6:46 AM
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I am seeing 6.5 to 7 point spread
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CU Guru [1155]
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Just looked at some stats...FSU is better than Clemson in
Oct 10, 2022, 7:00 AM
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yds per pass and yds per carry by roughly a yard per attempt. They put the ball on the ground a decent amount. Their kicker is bad.
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Re: I don't understand the 4 pt spread at FSU.
Oct 10, 2022, 7:24 AM
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Score fast and early!!!! Take the crowd out of the game!!!
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^^^ this is the biggest key........
Oct 10, 2022, 8:53 AM
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FSU has gone from Conference/Division contender ("BACK") to spoiler in a matter of two weeks. Not to mention they lost everything Saturday in a miraculously bad way. They now have NOTHING to play for EXCEPT to "screw up" somebody's season. FSU is good enough to upset us if they play well, but the crowd and team will FOLD and give up if we put them out early.........an early 10-14 point lead may do that............the longer we let them hang around the more confidence FSU gains and more dangerous they become.
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Line opened at 7.5
Oct 10, 2022, 7:32 AM
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lots of money going on fsu.
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Re: I don't understand the 4 pt spread at FSU.
Oct 10, 2022, 8:41 AM
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Because we had NC State at home, our toughest game so far will be Saturday night. Florida State is very close to being a really good team. The betting line takes home field and their big, fast receivers against our suspect secondary. For us to come come home 7-0 we have to play our best game of the year.
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WF disagrees
Oct 10, 2022, 11:02 AM
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coot.
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You answered your own question - they've played teams close
Oct 10, 2022, 8:44 AM
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FSU has a good team - they played WF close (like The Tigers did) and they SHOULD have just beaten NCState on the road.
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They knocked Leary out of the game and still managed to ...
Oct 10, 2022, 9:56 AM
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Lose!
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Re: I don't understand the 4 pt spread at FSU.
Oct 10, 2022, 8:49 AM
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From what I’ve seen of FSU the last two weeks their offense struggles against good defenses. But their defense seems pretty stout. They held Wake to 10 points in the second half and held NC State to 19 points on the road (Leary was knocked out of the game which could have played a role). FSU defense has played really well the last 6 quarters of football. Points will not come easy for Clemson but I think the Clemson defense will be the deciding factor.
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Re: I don't understand the 4 pt spread at FSU.
Oct 10, 2022, 9:02 AM
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I don't bet, but I follow the Vegas lines, as they are pretty close most of the time. FSU has played everyone close, but in their losses, it seems they have a hard time finishing teams out.
I think it's very similar to the NC State game...if we don't turn the ball over, we win.
Go Tigers!
Well, I don't understand as well. But the original TigerNet post was a 7 point spread. Then, I think there was a poster that submitted a different 4 point spread from another Vegas source. The original 7 point spread was from the normal TigerNet Vegas source, and I haven't seen an updated spread from that normal TigerNet Vegas source yet.
Personally, I think both the 7 & 4 point spreads are a little low. On the other hand, we are still not playing at our "normal" CFB Playoff level in MHO. Therefore, I'm not too concerned with the point spreads, & I hope we prove them wrong by a large amount. However, while we looked dominant against both NC State and BC, we didn't show that dominance until the 2nd half in both games. That's a concern, since it's another indication we're still not playing at our "normal" CFB Playoff levels. After all, we haven't seen our reserves playing any significant amount in the last three games! That's another major concern to me.
Now, we are going to play FL St in their house! And after several years at looking incompetent, they are starting to play like they are legitimate threats again, even if they have lost to two teams we have already beaten this year. Our Offense is definitely playing better than last year. And they seem to improve and show more confidence in each additional game we play. But they still aren't playing like CFB Playoff contenders. On the other side, our Defense is still not playing up to the hype everyone was expecting at the beginning of the year. They have looked much better in the last two games, but they still aren't showing me the confident, consistent, and dominating force I was expecting this year.
However, we're 6-0 at the halfway point. We have definitely surprised many naysayers! And I'm almost glad that they don't look like world champs, because they have no reason to feel like they are. They're exactly where Dabo does his best coaching. There are still lots of naysayers out there (both the media meatheads, as well as our own negative fan base). Our players seem to be aware they still have to make large improvements for the next game, and that they need to pay attention to our coaching staff. Additionally, it seems like we're about to get several experienced players back after several weeks of recuperating from numerous & different injuries.
I'm actually starting to feel slightly optimistic about our playoff chances for the first time this year. Go Tigers!
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Re: I don't understand the 4 pt spread at FSU.
Oct 10, 2022, 10:33 AM
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I agree that FSU is similar to NC State.
Since Saturday's game is on the road, FSU will be a tougher out that NC State.
To me, there are several similarities between FSU and NC State that seem obvious:
(1) QB play (pre-D.Leary injury) is similar, in that both QBs are reasonably accurate, but not especially so. (Wake's QB is Tom Brady accurate ... S.Harman will have a tremendous NFL career.)
(2) Defenses are both very good. Both FSUs and NC State's secondaries are better than ours (at this point in time, esp. when we depend upon FR Corners).
(3) O-Lines are both pretty good.
(4) WRs are pretty good, but both team's WRs suffer from a bit too many drops. (Wake's WR corp, on the other hand, is spectacular with their boundary and field WRs.)
(50 RBs are pretty good with both FSU and NC State. I'd say they are comparable in talent to ours.
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We have a good advantage vs. FSU at QB, DL, LBs, TEs, and maybe OL. (Yes, I said it ... OL.)
We are pretty close vs. FSU at WR and RB.
We are not as good as FSU in the secondary (our apparent improvement in DB play may have been because NC States and BCs QB and WRs are no where close to the Wake QB and WRs that torched out DBs).
Punt game is comparable between FSU and us.
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Kicker is an enormous advantage for us vs. FSU.
If we don't turn it over and are able to get near the Red Zone a few times, then we'll beat FSU because we'll get points when TDs can't be had. FSU's got to score enough TDs to beat our combo of TDs and FGs.
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Re: I don't understand the 4 pt spread at FSU.
Oct 10, 2022, 10:42 AM
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I saw somewhere that Jordan Travis might have gotten injured late in their choke at Carter-Finley. If true, I think that would move the line.
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Re: I don't understand the 4 pt spread at FSU.
Oct 10, 2022, 11:24 AM
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If you look FSU has the best defense against the pass. We don’t exactly light it up in the passing game. We are a lot better this year, but it’s not like we have 300yd passing games that often. I understand the line. I would take the under on the over under.
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Re: I don't understand the 4 pt spread at FSU.
Oct 10, 2022, 10:54 AM
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Probably because they went back and looked at the BC game again. The Tiger O was awful vs a beat up BC D. If DJ and the O don’t get it together this season takes a big dent Sat night .
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