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Why did MAGAts support torpedoing the Border Bill
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Why did MAGAts support torpedoing the Border Bill

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Apr 19, 2024, 6:07 AM
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and prefer "status quo" if they really do consider the southern border a major issue?

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They out the desire for power (politics) above country...

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Apr 19, 2024, 6:10 AM
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Killing the bill so Biden wouldn't get a win under the guise of the bill not being perfect.

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*they put****

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Apr 19, 2024, 6:11 AM
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Let me dumb this bill down for you.

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Apr 19, 2024, 8:10 AM
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It was the equivalent of calling a time-out to ice the opposing team's kicker; whilst down 40 points.

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Well...that is...

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Apr 19, 2024, 8:27 AM
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horsesheet

It fell far short of changes I would have liked, but it was a measurable improvement over what we have now and was the best we could hope for from the dems at that moment.

If we/GOP keep running clowns like Trump and the likes of MTG things will get worse and not better as the dems gain more control.

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Open wide.

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Apr 19, 2024, 10:05 AM
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Currently crossing the border without prior approval is illegal.

Crossing into America claiming "asylum" is only for Russians, Cubans, Canadiens, and Mexicans. Crossing half the world to claim asylum here is illegal.

Crossing the border NOT at a port of entry, is illegal.

Overstaying your visa, is illegal.

If these laws were enforced; it would be a different world at the border. So, what will adding a host of new laws to the books that will also not be enforced? Absolutely nothing, but give the President even more power to ignore the laws already in place.

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Re: Open wide.


Apr 19, 2024, 10:49 AM
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Hey Birm (John), why don't you answer Keowee's question? You've had enough time to make up an answer since the last time you saw this.

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Re: Open wide.

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Apr 19, 2024, 11:55 AM
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How is "status quo" better than the border bill? You got the stones to answer that, or is this the part where you run away? 😆

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Re: Open wide.

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Apr 19, 2024, 12:08 PM
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You should know about stones in your business. Just a troll without answering the question about existing laws. More of your song and dance.

So if the current status quo is to not follow existing immigration laws, what makes you think a new immigration law wouldn't just continue the status quo for not following the new law?



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Re: Open wide.

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Apr 19, 2024, 12:23 PM
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I answered his question even though he did not answer mine. As expected, you wussed out in answering mine. 😆

BTW. You need to learn how to properly post gifs

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Re: Open wide.

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Apr 19, 2024, 10:36 PM
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Step up and answer my question and quit worrying about gifs.

I'll post it again to save you a some time.

So if the current status quo is to not follow existing immigration laws, what makes you think a new immigration law wouldn't just continue the status quo for not following the new law?

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Re: Open wide.

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Apr 20, 2024, 6:53 AM
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We are currently following immigration laws the best we can with the resources given. The Bipartisan border bill is a huge improvement over what we currently have.

Now that I answered your question, why is "status quo" preferrable to the border bill? This is where you tap out because you can't give a rational answer to that. LOL

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Re: Open wide.


Apr 20, 2024, 8:31 AM
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Now that you have restarted a post that was shutdown by other posters, you can go back and read those posts because nothing has changed.

You can chew your cabbage twice if you desire but I don't.

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Re: Open wide.

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Apr 24, 2024, 9:40 AM
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Why is "status quo" preferrable to the border bill? This is where you tap out because you can't give a rational answer to that. Still waiting. 😆

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Re: Open wide.


Apr 24, 2024, 4:17 PM
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Even after you were told all the Dems wanted was the WAR money, you cried and are still crying like a baby that the new Border Bill including funding for Ukraine, Israel and East including Taiwan got shot down. You got duped again by this Administration.

Now even a blind fool like you can see the WAR funding is all the Dems wanted. Since the WAR money has been approved, where's the new Border Bill? I haven't seen or heard a peep out of the Dems wanting to get it passed.

I know it's too far of a stretch for the gullible to understand that the current Immigration Laws should be enforced.

Just like the rest of the Far Left in Washington, you have no credibility left.

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Re: Open wide.


Apr 24, 2024, 7:10 PM
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Cool story Bro. Why is "status quo" preferrable to the border bill? This is where you tap out because you can't give a rational answer to that. Still waiting. 😆

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Re: Open wide.

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Apr 19, 2024, 11:54 AM [ in reply to Open wide. ]
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It is illegal to cross at port of entry. But our current laws state that those who cross illegally are entitled to due process. SORRY baw. Now do you have an explanation as to why "status quo" is better than the border bill. Of course you don't. #checkmate AGAIN. 😆

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UMMM. Due process can equal immediate deportation. BAWWWWWWWWW.***


Apr 19, 2024, 12:31 PM
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Re: Open wide.


Apr 19, 2024, 12:17 PM [ in reply to Open wide. ]
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This would have been a huge upgrade, by MAGA folk want to wait until January or February of 2025 for electiin purposes.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/analysis-senate-border-bill#:~:text=What%20This%20Bill%20Would%20Do&text=The%20%E2%80%9Ctrigger%E2%80%9D%20authority%E2%80%94called,them%20to%20apply%20for%20asylum.

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So your stance is that nothing should be done from a legislative perspective?***


Apr 24, 2024, 4:57 PM [ in reply to Open wide. ]
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Re: Why did MAGAts support torpedoing the Border Bill

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Apr 19, 2024, 8:33 AM
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If the current administration isn't already doing everything in its power to control the border, and normal people can clearly see that it is not, then why bother passing a bunch of new legislation that the current administration will also ignore or only selectively enforce? If one side is politicizing the issue it's the left which has suddenly in election season decided to pretend to care about something that's been an ongoing disaster for the last few years.

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Dang.

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Apr 19, 2024, 9:36 AM
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You have taken your stupid to a new (lower) level.

Call Chuckie Schoomer and ask why Mayorkas was not brought up.

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And before you respond, I posted yesterday why he was impeached by the House.


Apr 19, 2024, 9:38 AM
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waiting.

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Re: And before you respond, I posted yesterday why he was impeached by the House.


Apr 19, 2024, 9:49 AM
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I responded yesterday. You're not having a very good day. 😆

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You're more stupid that I thought.


Apr 19, 2024, 9:58 AM
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And that was a low bar.

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Re: Dang.

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Apr 19, 2024, 9:46 AM [ in reply to Dang. ]
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Explain how "status quo" is better than the Bipartisan Border Bill. You can't, can you. Seems like you're the stupid one. 😆 🤣

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You really need to


Apr 19, 2024, 10:00 AM
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go away.

Nobody likes your trolling crap.

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Re: You really need to

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Apr 19, 2024, 11:50 AM
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Are my triggered by what you perceive as MEAN TWEETS?



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Because it's like many issues with the right-wing....

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Apr 19, 2024, 9:52 AM
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The things they scream about the most are usually issues they don't want to "solve" by legislation.

The Border is their latest faux screaming issue. Previously, it was debt/deficits. Law-n-Order is another one. Repeal Obamacare is another one.

Whenever they go postal on an issue, you can be sure they're trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

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Re: Because it's like many issues with the right-wing....

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Apr 19, 2024, 9:57 AM
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Deer BMeist


Apr 19, 2024, 10:03 AM
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Can we have a Republican - Conservative Board so we don't have to put with this crap?

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Re: Deer BMeist

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Apr 19, 2024, 10:13 AM
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Here ya go.

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/index.php

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You're the only one that's ever linked it that I recall...***


Apr 19, 2024, 11:29 PM
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Like an echo chamber? Because that's what you're suggesting.


Apr 19, 2024, 10:55 AM [ in reply to Deer BMeist ]
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And there's plenty of boards and spaces for exactly that if that's what you're looking for.

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Re: Because it's like many issues with the right-wing....


Apr 19, 2024, 10:31 AM [ in reply to Because it's like many issues with the right-wing.... ]
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gosmitty said:

The things they scream about the most are usually issues they don't want to "solve" by legislation.

The Border is their latest faux screaming issue. Previously, it was debt/deficits. Law-n-Order is another one. Repeal Obamacare is another one.

Whenever they go postal on an issue, you can be sure they're trying to pull the wool over our eyes.


Go to a bumble bee board and stay off Clemson board

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No.***

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Apr 19, 2024, 12:34 PM
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You forgot about the biggest car the GOP dogs have been chasing for the past

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Apr 19, 2024, 10:49 AM [ in reply to Because it's like many issues with the right-wing.... ]
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half century, and finally caught: abortion. "Oh shit, what did we do?" When you have a psycho like Kari Lake trying to walk back AZ's total ban, you know you done screwed up.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/abortion-and-the-2024-election-there-is-no-easy-way-out-for-republicans/

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Re: You forgot about the biggest car the GOP dogs have been chasing for the past

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Apr 19, 2024, 11:00 AM
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I’m curious how people reconcile Trump backing a 15 week ban for political reasons. Is abortion not murder before 15 weeks?

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15 weeks allows for amniocentesis. Allow 2-3 weeks more for decision/scheduling.


Apr 19, 2024, 11:11 AM
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I've always believed that. Doesn't have anything to do with T-Rump or anybody else for that matter.

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Re: You forgot about the biggest car the GOP dogs have been chasing for the past

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Apr 19, 2024, 11:51 AM [ in reply to Re: You forgot about the biggest car the GOP dogs have been chasing for the past ]
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They haven't thought that through.

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Yessir - the abortion issue is going to decide the election - the economy,


Apr 19, 2024, 11:53 AM [ in reply to You forgot about the biggest car the GOP dogs have been chasing for the past ]
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the border, foreign policy - all pale in comparison to abortion...2022 showed that.

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Your prolly right, but the sad part is the RvW decision, contrary to popular


Apr 19, 2024, 12:03 PM
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belief, was about state's rights, not about abortion.

But hey, liberal wimmen don't get that.

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Well, they've got to get enough votes in Congress to make it a federal law


Apr 19, 2024, 12:26 PM
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that killing babies is ok. And there is the belief that they can do that. (Haley tried to sidestep the abortion issue by saying - it doesn't matter what I (as President) think, I wouldn't have the votes in Congress to make a federal law against abortion.)

Also - having the abortion vote on the state's ballots (where is should be) is going to bring out the single-issue voters (to vote for abortion) and they're going to vote DEM while they're there.

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They shouldn't have. It was negotiated by Dems and Pubs and they came up with


Apr 19, 2024, 11:50 AM
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"something".

What they should have done:

Signed the Bill while holding their noses (because the Bill does stink) and loudly pointed out that Biden ignored the crisis until the election was drawing near.

Now - every Dem that is asked about the border can say - we had a Bill that THEY helped negotiate, but then THEY wouldn't sign it because of Trump. (Of course, I guess if the Bill had been signed, they'd be answering - "Yes, it was a problem because of Trump - but we've fixed it. You're welcome.")

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Re: Why did MAGAts support torpedoing the Border Bill

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Apr 19, 2024, 11:04 PM
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If the border was out of control because of the previous administration (which I was told for over two years) why didn’t the senate and president stop the lawlessness from their inauguration?

Plenty of executive orders coulda been made in Joe’s first term to curb the problems down south.

By the way, why should any pub or dem have to do anything about the border of it isn’t a problem?

So are you saying it is a problem?

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Dude, they'd argue with a rock if it satisfied their TDS pangs... logic aside.***


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