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LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 16, 2012, 9:49 PM
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Now that we know Steward will be ready to go...what would you do?
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MIKE: Stephone Anthony/Spencer Shuey/BJ Goodson WILL: Tig Willard/Corico Hawkins SAM: Tony Steward or Lateek Townsend or Quandon Christian/Justin Parker
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Boundary LB: Stephone Anthony/Quandon Christian Field LB: Tig Willard/Tony Steward Nickel/Box CB: Travis Blanks/Cortez Davis or Xavier Brewer
What do you guys think? Personally, I think most of our LB's outside of a few can play multiple positions.
What would be your alignment for base and nickel packages?
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well imo
Jul 16, 2012, 9:52 PM
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the day tony stewards ready Id start tony stephone and lateek...those three need to be on the field together to give us our most dominant group
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Re: well imo
Jul 16, 2012, 9:55 PM
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I agree. I think Willard is a good player for us, though. He has been consistent for the past two years and has earned the right to start.
But I just don't see how Hawkins and Christian can give us any advantage at all when we have those athletes rearin' to go.
I think Townsend might need to be worked in. We all know he's explosive and loves to hit but I think he needs to get acclimated to the discipline of the college game before being thrown to the wolves.
Our group looks 10x better than it did a year and a half ago, though.
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Re: well imo
Jul 16, 2012, 9:58 PM
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Man Id just line lateek up and give him very little rules and say just go get the football...lol...TH\hat cats gonna be a war daddy. I agree about Tig...but id put steward right behind him and ease him in. I want christian to be good but he just isnt consistent,maybe he will be this year. But the three of Stephone,tony,and lateek are playmakers and Im willing to bet BJ will be a stud as well
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Re: well imo
Jul 16, 2012, 10:00 PM
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I agree. Just think...This group will be juniors and seniors next year. It's going to be special.
I like Lateek's energy but with a zone drop scheme you have to be disciplined and play your gaps as a LB.
I am looking forward to watching this group player. I think these guys could be the fastest and most dynamic group of LB's in the nation when all is said and done.
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Re: well imo
Jul 16, 2012, 10:05 PM
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Oh I know...I was just teasin bout my comment on Lateek...Honestly we have the best depth at LB Ive seen in a long time we honestly have two starting units. We are also now building qaulity depth on the DL...if we finish with who I think we will finish with in recruiting...our defense is going to be really good in 2013 and beyond
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Re: well imo
Jul 16, 2012, 10:00 PM
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Most on the team will tell you Christian is one of the top 5 athletes on the team.
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Re: well imo
Jul 16, 2012, 10:02 PM
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I left him out at first because of the depth at LB...but not on purpose.
He is definitely a great athlete. I just feel that he was caught out of position a lot of times. The coaches even commented a couple of times talking about how they have veteran players who aren't playing their assignments.
I've always liked both Quandon and Corico, but it's time for them to step up if they want to fend off the younger guys.
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We are on the same page!***
Jul 16, 2012, 10:30 PM
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Re: LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 16, 2012, 9:53 PM
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Hawkins changed his name to something new and not Hawkins. forget what it is though
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Re: LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 16, 2012, 9:55 PM
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White I think?
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Right.***
Jul 16, 2012, 10:31 PM
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Re: LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 16, 2012, 9:54 PM
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Base:
MIKE: 1. Stephone Anthony 2. Spencer Shuey/BJ Goodson WILL: 1. Tig Willard 2.Corico Hawkins SAM: 1. Christian 2.Tony Steward/Lateek Townsend/Justin Parker
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Boundary LB: Stephone Anthony Field LB: 1. Tig Willard 2. Christian/Tony Steward Nickel/Box CB: 1. Travis Blanks/Jenkins 3. Brewer
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Re: LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 16, 2012, 10:00 PM
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The coaches know better than I do, but I would have Lateek out on the field as much as possible. The cat is a head hunter who is not afraid to hit someone. He is a beast. Can we just put them all on the field at once? If nothing else, that group will defiantly hurt someone.
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Re: LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 16, 2012, 10:04 PM
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I hear that. I watched film from the last few games last year and you can instantly tell when he was on the field. He didn't play many snaps, but when he did...he just jumped off the screen at how he was flying off the ball.
He's the type of player who wan'ts to be on the field agains the Coots and the big boys and he wants to do damage.
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Re: Re: LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 16, 2012, 9:56 PM
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Wright
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Re: Re: LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 16, 2012, 9:59 PM
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I wouldnt put lateek and tony at same position.I also think parker is going to shine this year,,,was really impressed with him in spring
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Re: Re: LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 16, 2012, 10:03 PM
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I know Lateek is a SAM. I was just assuming Tony was because of his speed and coverage ability.
It's hard to tell, because in college there's not as much of a "mold" for LB skillsets as there is in the NFL...with the exception of maybe MIKE.
Like I said, we could have any series of alignments which is why I was wanting to see what you guys thought.
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Re: Re: LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 16, 2012, 10:06 PM
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Its a great problem to have
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I think I'd have Steward at the WILL or even MIKE
Jul 16, 2012, 10:10 PM
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he can play any of the three positions but with the SAM and MIKE being locked down he could definitly take the starting spot at that position after Willard leaves. I really like Tig. He always played tough and was the most reliable of the starters last year.
Another option is to move Steward to MIKE. He is bigger than Anthony and truthfully I expected him to go too MIKE nad Anthony to go to WILL when they committed to Clemson. Anthony might be a MIKE because of how intellignet he is and the MIKE is the QB of the defense. These two players can play anywhere and I'm srue Venables will have fun mixing and matching.
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Re: I think I'd have Steward at the WILL or even MIKE
Jul 16, 2012, 10:14 PM
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I kind of a gree that Id like to see anthony playing on the edge more..and put Tony at mike....eiether way those 2 guys along with lateek changed the dynamic of this defense and the kids we recruit
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No One has mentioned
Jul 16, 2012, 10:15 PM
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Goodson.
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Re: No One has mentioned
Jul 16, 2012, 10:17 PM
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Yes I did...
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I talk to a former Clemson LB a he says Goodson is a monster
Jul 16, 2012, 10:17 PM
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told me to watch out for the kid this year.
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Re: I talk to a former Clemson LB a he says Goodson is a monster
Jul 16, 2012, 10:20 PM
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I agree...he will be nice coming off the bench at Mike...like I said I honestly believe we have truly 2 sets of starting LBs
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Teek is like a bulldog
Jul 16, 2012, 10:16 PM
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point him in a direction and tell him go. I really want to see him make an impact and once he gets a bit more disicplined will be a monster. That being said if I was Venables playing against GT next year where the key to stopping the option is hitting the QB. I would pull Teek to the side and tell him no matter what happens TAKE HIS HEAD OFF! and leave it at that. If GT's qb is still playing by the end of the game then that's one tough fb player
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Re: Teek is like a bulldog
Jul 16, 2012, 10:18 PM
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Lateek may put him in the hospital
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That'll be his fault for not taking a knee every down
Jul 16, 2012, 10:20 PM
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that's what I'd do if I saw this kind of front 7 coming for me. RN and Adams alone would give me nightmares and to see then lined up against me I'd take a knee until coach pulled me and ouot and yelled at me. Then I'd calmly tell him to snap the ball and see what happens to him
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Re: That'll be his fault for not taking a knee every down
Jul 16, 2012, 10:22 PM
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haha...Its gonna make for some inetersting games with fsu when those two defenses sqaure off
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Re: RN and adams will not be playing for one year
Jul 16, 2012, 10:31 PM
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I think he was referring to 2013
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Re: I think I'd have Steward at the WILL or even MIKE
Jul 16, 2012, 10:15 PM
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I agree with this. I can definitely see Steward at MIKE (like you said...he's a big guy...I think he's pretty smart, too). Put Anthony at WILL and Townsend at SAM and you have one of the best LB corps in the country in 2013 (after they've gotten experience together).
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Re: I think I'd have Steward at the WILL or even MIKE
Jul 16, 2012, 10:16 PM
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yeah and throw in kemdiche,crawford,watkins,reader adams(crossing fingers) elijah vic beasley,kevin doidd,williams and jarrett and thats one nasty front 7
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Combined with a talented secondary
Jul 16, 2012, 10:18 PM
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and we'll have one of the ebst D's in the country but unlike FSU, we'll have the O to back it up.
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Re: Combined with a talented secondary
Jul 16, 2012, 10:21 PM
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exactly...Im also anxious to see what chad kelly can do
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Re: Combined with a talented secondary
Jul 16, 2012, 10:21 PM
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ESPECIALLY if Tajh stays and Brooks puts on about 20 lbs and becomes that hand-picked Chad Morris RB!
Ford won't be here...but McCullough, Seckinger and Cooper will be.
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Re: Combined with a talented secondary
Jul 16, 2012, 10:27 PM
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I like JJ McCullogh at TE ...I think brooks will be a bigger version of AE but with better receiving skills
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Brooks is still too small
Jul 16, 2012, 10:28 PM
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I saw him in person yesterday and he still looks like a WR more so then a RB. He needs about 10-15 pounds of pure muscle.
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Re: Brooks is still too small
Jul 16, 2012, 10:29 PM
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He will get there...he has only had a spring
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I know. He'll have plenty of time to get there
Jul 16, 2012, 10:30 PM
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Problem is with Bellmay gone we'll have to play him this fall and I'm anxious about how he'll do being so light. I don't want him getting hurt
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Re: I know. He'll have plenty of time to get there
Jul 16, 2012, 10:33 PM
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How small is he...I thought he was like 190
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That sounds about right. He looked kind of lanky
Jul 16, 2012, 10:36 PM
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again, like a freshman WR. I'm pretty sure I'm being paranoid. He got good reviews from what I've heard so far. A BIG concern for me is Vic Beasly. I saw him Sunday as well and he is WAY to small for the WDE position at least if they want him to be an every down back. He looked like a basketball player as he was tall, kind of thin and lanky. He really needs the training table to put on good weight. we'll have to rely on either Aiken or Lawson to come in and give us some good minutes next year
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Re: That sounds about right. He looked kind of lanky
Jul 16, 2012, 10:38 PM
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Youll probably only see Vic in passing situations til he can get bigger and hold up against the run...I think youll see him used some in the 3-4 packages atleast thats what I saw in the spring game...used him as bascially a standup end
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I know and that concerns me in terms of depth at WDE***
Jul 16, 2012, 10:40 PM
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Re: I hope McClain works out at TE if not then OT
Jul 16, 2012, 10:30 PM
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I keep forgetting bout him...I have a feeling that either OL or DL may be in his future...but you never know
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Many schools offered him as a OT but he wanted to play TE***
Jul 16, 2012, 10:31 PM
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Re: Many schools offered him as a OT but he wanted to play TE***
Jul 16, 2012, 10:35 PM
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Id move him and maybank to OL in spring nxt year if they dont make a push
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With the talent at DT Maybank needs to move
Jul 16, 2012, 10:37 PM
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he moes pretty well for a big guy and if he drops some weight he'd be a good OG.
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Re: With the talent at DT Maybank needs to move
Jul 16, 2012, 10:39 PM
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I always felt like thats where he would end up
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I remember in the FSU game last year I think. They had a 2nd
Jul 16, 2012, 10:47 PM
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and two with Steward in the game. They ran it right at his gap and he stepped up in the hole and stuffed it. Now, 3rd and 2, they took Steward out, ran it in the same gap. First down. I saw Steel do that several times last year with Tony and even Lateek in the South Carolina game. I can only hope the defense improves half as much as the offense did last year.
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Re: LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 16, 2012, 10:10 PM
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I would move Parker to a rush-end spot. Not sure why that hasn't happened yet.
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Re: LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 16, 2012, 10:13 PM
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He's listed at 230. He could probably do it in a situational role. Most of the time in a 4-3, OLB's don't blitz....but they could do what the Denver Broncos are doing with Von Miller. They have 4 down lineman and then bring Von Miller up even with the hip of the strongside defensive end and have him rush from there. It's impossible for the guard to get over there in time because of the speed, and the RB isn't a good blocking matchup.
I know he's fast and it would be a nice wrinkle to add.
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Re: LB Depth Chart - What Would You Do?
Jul 17, 2012, 12:46 AM
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So you think he's not too stiff to play outside LB?
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I would let the coaches do their job but thats just me***
Jul 16, 2012, 10:16 PM
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Re: I would let the coaches do their job but thats just me***
Jul 16, 2012, 10:22 PM
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Is it "just [you]" to be a smug ###### as well? Yes, it is just you.
That's why the title of the thread is "what would you do."
That whole premise entails us not being coaches, but giving our opinions on what we would do if we were. Some people like to talk about the actual game of football instead of just engaging in the usual message board gossip.
If you have nothing to add, there are plenty of conference expansion/gossip threads. I just happen to want to talk about the depth chart. Sue me.
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Spot the durn ball?..
Jul 16, 2012, 10:20 PM
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And it is
"Fight, Tigers, Fight, ######, Fight, Fight, Fight!!!"
*no ghey woo boo...
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Re: Spot the durn ball?..
Jul 16, 2012, 10:23 PM
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Isnt it truly only supposed to be two fights at the end...based on the old military tradition
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you are correct - 2..
Jul 16, 2012, 10:32 PM
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most people cant get it right because it has been done wrong so many years
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Re: you are correct - 2..
Jul 16, 2012, 10:34 PM
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Its based off cadance right...or at least thats what I was always told
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Re: you are correct - 2..exactly
Jul 16, 2012, 10:55 PM
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it is a cadence. I have marched to it many times
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With the proper coaching
Jul 16, 2012, 10:32 PM
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which i believe BV can and will do, we will have one of the best/deepest LB corps in the country.
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I say we're fookin loaded. let Coach V work it out ....***
Jul 16, 2012, 10:34 PM
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Re: I say we're fookin loaded. let Coach V work it out ....***
Jul 16, 2012, 10:38 PM
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Absolutely loaded. But being a football message board, I thought it'd be cool to speculate on what the starting lineup would be.
Obviously it doesn't matter what we think and the coaches will set the lineup the way they want...but we can still talk about it.
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Walk-On [140]
TigerPulse: 88%
Posts: 214
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Well, my guess would be we'll see
Jul 16, 2012, 10:45 PM
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A Solid rotation of Anthony, steward, teek, Goodson, and hawkins by the fourth game.
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Orange Blooded [2507]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4135
Joined: 1/9/12
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Replace Hawkins with Willard***
Jul 16, 2012, 10:51 PM
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