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All-In [47914]
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a president indicted under the Espionage Act
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Jun 9, 2023, 8:59 AM
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and he was indicted in Miami, FL. Miami has a GOP mayor and 46% voted for Trump in Miami-Date in 2020.
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God knows what the s o b sold or tried to sell
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Jun 9, 2023, 9:06 AM
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to the Saudis.
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Re: a president indicted under the Espionage Act
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Jun 9, 2023, 9:19 AM
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His odds are actually a whole lot better in Miami-Dade than they would be in any other major city in Florida. Even Florida's capital of Tallahassee went about 64% for Biden. Cityfolk just do not like Trump, end of story.
Those are the best odds he's ever likely going to get. A 50/50 Dem/Pub jury certainly seems entirely possible. He won't be acquitted - I'm morally certain of that, the overwhelming majority of the jury is likely to find against him because his record in actual courtrooms is dismal, he literally got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and they've got him on tape dismantling his own I-Magically-Declassified-It defense. But I do think his odds of drawing one or two hardcore MAGA holdouts who can hang the jury just rose substantially.
If he'd been tried in DC, I'd have suggested just marching him straight down to USP Lee, it'd have saved everybody some time. I dunno how good his odds are now, but you'd think he's got more than a snowball's chance in Hades, anyway.
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He's the worst type of criminal.
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Jun 9, 2023, 9:21 AM
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Which also makes for the worst type of client. Loose lips.
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the MAGAts were already saying he couldnt get a fair trial
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Jun 9, 2023, 9:24 AM
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in DC. that argument is gone now. He will get a fair trial and I should be convicted. While I havent seen the evidence, I trust the Department of Justice. I can't imagine they would bring a case they didnt think they could win.
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Re: the MAGAts were already saying he couldnt get a fair trial
Jun 9, 2023, 9:35 AM
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I am not a big truster of the Feds, like, ever. History tells us again and again and again that if you don't watch a Gubmint agency, any time and any place, they get up to stuff. The only thing that keeps them on the straight and narrow is scrutiny.
They're going to get that and then some on this one, though. Which means every "i" is likely to be dotted and every "t" crossed, and they will absolutely come after him with their best prosecutor and an overwhelming pile of evidence.
I honestly don't think the trial really even matters much. It'll likely be won or lost in the jury selection, though we won't know how until it shakes out at the end.
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I agree on government trust with the exception of the
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Jun 9, 2023, 9:39 AM
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justice department. I've known LOTS of US attorneys and count may former US attorneys as my partners. they are from all walks of life and political persuasions but they applied (and continue to apply) the law with the utmost respect for their office.
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Re: I agree on government trust with the exception of the
Jun 9, 2023, 9:43 AM
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I hope that is true. They'll have needed to have stepped absolutely correct on this or it's liable to go sideways on them. I cannot even imagine the pressure the jury will be under.
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See above. There's a couple of "outliers" (out right liars)***
Jun 9, 2023, 11:17 AM
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Re: This will probably not play well with the jury.
Jun 9, 2023, 10:30 AM
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If that's your take away...all righty then.***
Jun 9, 2023, 10:36 AM
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Re: If that's your take away...all righty then.***
Jun 9, 2023, 10:39 AM
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The first we already knew and was public knowledge.
Jun 9, 2023, 11:05 AM
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The second is speculation even if true, and doesn't really matter since the this "attack" never happened.
Third, it doesn't absolve Trump from breaking the law.
So, what point are you trying to make?
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I'll posit a response. T-Rump was being circumvented by the
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Jun 9, 2023, 11:13 AM
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Uni-Party from Day 1 and actually even before taking office. It NEVER stopped.
51 'intel officials' made it blatantly clear.
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You can save yourself the time of responding to me.***
Jun 9, 2023, 11:14 AM
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Wimps gonna wimp.***
Jun 9, 2023, 11:18 AM
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I'm fine with that.
Jun 9, 2023, 11:19 AM
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But when all you post is deranged conspiracy nonsense, don't be surprised when people lose all interest in anything you have to say.
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“Deranged conspiracy theories”
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Jun 9, 2023, 11:24 AM
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That basically all come true. Lol.
There are so many “deranged conspiracies” with COVID that came true. It’s not even a response anymore. Do better.
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Well you guys are certainly in delightful company to discuss
Jun 9, 2023, 11:28 AM
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how America did 9/11 and jewish blood conspiracies.
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Re: Well you guys are certainly in delightful company to discuss
Jun 9, 2023, 11:33 AM
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Poor baby. "Conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy". So easy.
Jun 9, 2023, 11:31 AM
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Are you referring to my 9/11 theories or JFK... ? Other than those two, I really don't know what you're talking about.
Nothing I've posted today has anything to do with either. Today, I've been resigned to refuting false claims.
But, of course, "deranged conspiracy nonsense" is a petty out when you don't have an actual logical reply.
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Cool. So we agree it's all a big waste of your time replying
Jun 9, 2023, 7:35 PM
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to me.
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What...? Are they gonna dock your pay?***
Jun 9, 2023, 11:36 AM
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Did Trump remove Milley?
Jun 9, 2023, 11:20 AM
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He had time. He had authority. No? He didn't? Gee. If Milley trying to falsely accuse a sitting President is about as criminal as it gets, and that President with the time and authority to do something about it does nothing, then maybe your premise is faulty.
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Re: Did Trump remove Milley?
Jun 9, 2023, 11:24 AM
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So Trump did nothing when he had the power to do something,
Jun 9, 2023, 11:30 AM
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to instead illegally take classified material to sit on after he was out of power, for what reason? Honestly man, do you even hear yourself?
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Re: So Trump did nothing when he had the power to do something,
Jun 9, 2023, 11:51 AM
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Re: So Trump did nothing when he had the power to do something,
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Jun 9, 2023, 12:59 PM
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Can't answer the question. 😆
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Re: So Trump did nothing when he had the power to do something,
Jun 9, 2023, 1:08 PM
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Re: So Trump did nothing when he had the power to do something,
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Jun 9, 2023, 1:16 PM
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You got pimp slapped 3 ways to Sunday on the discussion about why evangelicals like yourself intentionally ignore the the Bible and go against God's wishes with your choosing to be a goat. Too funny.
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Re: So Trump did nothing when he had the power to do something,
Jun 9, 2023, 1:17 PM
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You still on here caring about pulses?
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Jun 9, 2023, 6:35 PM
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Some things never change
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Re: So Trump did nothing when he had the power to do something,
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Jun 9, 2023, 6:36 PM
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T3 , I was in on that conversation a little bit. For some reason I could never pull up that page again after my last post. Sounds like it’s a good thing. Lol.
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Re: So Trump did nothing when he had the power to do something,
Jun 9, 2023, 6:45 PM
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Re: So Trump did nothing when he had the power to do something,
Jun 9, 2023, 6:49 PM
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Sounds like I pretty well know how it went anyway.
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Re: a president indicted under the Espionage Act
Jun 9, 2023, 6:03 PM
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Whatever the odds are should t it be the same everywhere in this country? The fact that the odds differ speaks volumes as to where we are now.
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It's a great day for America
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Always a great day when horrible, immoral people who break the law finally receive their come comeuppance.
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They indicted Hunter...? Finally!***
Jun 9, 2023, 11:47 AM
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Yeah, I'm so pissed we elected Hunter.***
Jun 9, 2023, 11:53 AM
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Re: Yeah, I'm so pissed we elected Hunter.***
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Re: Yeah, I'm so pissed we elected Hunter.***
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Jun 9, 2023, 6:01 PM
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If he’s guilty bring him down, i have no party loyalty.
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Y'all's tears over Trump are delicious
Jun 9, 2023, 12:29 PM
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Guess all the gloating during his four years in office didn't age so well.
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I'm the one that coined "T-Rump"... Keep up. The problem
Jun 9, 2023, 1:03 PM
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with a whole lot of people on TNet is their 'either/or' mentality and how anything outside those bounds is a threat.
It's not a binary world when it comes to politics. Try to think independently.
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