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I'm really proud of our basketball program.
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On the court, they are winning ACC games at a rate higher than under any previous coach.
Not only that, but they weathered the storm of a frustrating stretch of games and are now playing great basketball again.
Academically, they are setting records for team GPA and are graduating at an extremely high rate.
Our players are heavily involved in community service.
They carry themselves well. We don't have to worry about them getting into trouble.
In short, they represent Clemson well and are model student-athletes we can be proud of.
Great job Coach Brownell and staff!
Now let's go beat the Wusspack tomorrow! Go Tigers!
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Re: Tell 'em shill I
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Dang. Kamala's laughing at them?
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Talk about a brand-killer.
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I'm proud that you're proud.
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I'll be even more prouder if they can finish on the right side of five hundert, make a deep run in the ACC tourney, and a S-16 or better appearance.
Also, it is good to see the team battle through a tough stretch and not fold like a lawn chair.
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We will definitely finish on the right side of .500.
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We could lose the rest of our games and still finish with a winning overall record.
Or were you referring to our ACC record?
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Re: We will definitely finish on the right side of .500.
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If we lose the rest of our games that would not be something I would be proud of.
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Who said they would be proud of that?***
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
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You are celebrating 7-6. Let that sink in.
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Haha
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Swinney celebrated 9-4/6th in the ACC.
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And it sank in just fine for plenty of folks, except T from Sparkle City.
I know ... Swinney's won plenty of titles and has generally outperformed Brownell. Get it.
But it could be that the b-ball team finishes higher than 6th, with possibly a better winning %age.
Then what will the complaint be?
Mine will be that they didn't beat Duke at Duke when they had the chance. And that they keep everyone on the edge of their seats all season long. That it's just not as easy as I'd like them to make it.
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Re: Swinney celebrated 9-4/6th in the ACC.
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I don't think you saw people on here bragging about Dabo as a result of our standing in the ACC. There were not posts celebrating our ACC winning record.
But here we are with the clown troll and Brownell.
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Of course people don't celebrate when
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Feb 16, 2024, 12:16 PM
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a former national championship-calibre football program finishes sixth in a basketball conference.
But Swinney did - celebrated the team's resilience and grit. Even in the face of the disappointing losses ... to basketball schools.
But of course, and maybe even understandably, Brownell doesn't get the same latitude because he's been here so long and hasn't seen the same results ... in what is possibly the toughest basketball conference there is.
So, yeah, when a perennial middling b-ball program from a football school puts in an above-average performance in a basketball conference, it's not particularly out of place to celebrate the accomplishment.
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Re: Of course people don't celebrate when
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According to college basketball RPI rankings, since Brownell's first season in 2010, the ACC was the top ranked conference in only one season (2016-17). And in the last 5 seasons including this season, the ACC is averaging around the 6th best conference. There are plenty of measures to determine the strength of a conference, but based on these rankings, they do not support the ACC being the toughest conference to play in.
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The 2019, 2017, 2015, 2013 and 2010
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squads from Virginny, UNC, Duke, and Loovul all might disagree with you.
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Re: The 2019, 2017, 2015, 2013 and 2010
Feb 16, 2024, 3:35 PM
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I was not stating that there were not tough teams in the ACC since 2010. However, the argument that the ACC, as a whole, is the toughest conference though includes all the teams from the conference.
For instance, if we examine the 2018-19 year that Virginia won the national championship, the ACC was the 3rd best conference (according to RPI). This was also the ACC's 4th highest RPI ranking among all conferences for a given year since 2010. The individual team rankings were (1, 2, 5, 11, 21, 33, 44, 66, 83, 129, 156, 169, 171, 180, 185). There were some tough teams that year. There were also 6 teams with sub .500 overall records.
Alternatively, the Big-12 (ranked #1 in RPI as a conference) during the 2018-19 year had individual team ranks of (4, 9, 18, 30, 34, 42, 49, 52, 112, 113).
If you didn't count those bottom 5 teams from the ACC so both conferences had the same number of teams, then the ACC would have had a higher RPI ranking. However, those teams were included in the conference and a part of each ACC teams conference schedule that year so they were included in the conference RPI.
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If I follow,
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Feb 16, 2024, 5:53 PM
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you're saying the ACC would be good were it not for the bad teams in the ACC.
Or, that all the bad teams in the ACC make the good teams seem less good, including those five national championship teams that beat the best teams from all the other, better conferences.
So now, Im wondering if Clemson basketball will ever be good enough to gain the respect of the average Clemson basketball fan, competing as they do in such a middling conference.
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Re: If I follow,
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My apologies. My point was not to disrespect Clemson and the ACC. It was only to state that the data doesn’t support the ACC as the toughest conference over the past decade.
But trying to argue one conference being tougher than another is silly, in my opinion, given the parity in college basketball now. Each conference will have good and bad teams and the level to which they are in either direction will vary from year to year.
As they say, we play who’s on our schedule. Let’s just handle our own business with our own Clemson schedule and the rest will take care of itself.
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NCAAT is all that is relevant in basketball sorry.
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If you’re 5th place in the acc and on the outside looking in, you’re irrelevant
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The fact that 5th place in the ACC IS on the outside looking in in basketball
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just shows how much the conference has fallen off the cliff compared to the glory days. In the days of your Sampsons, Jordans, Worthys, Laetners, etc, a .500 record in the ACC made you a tournament lock. We would get eight or nine teams into the dance in a given year. Where did it all go? That's not just a rhetorical question. One thing that changed was the "One and Done" rule that was adopted. This allowed coaches who embraced it, like John Calipari at Kentucky, to suddenly nearly corner the market on top talent. Much like on NIL, the ACC lagged behind on that. It took awhile before even ultrasuccessful coaches like Ratface finally felt the pinch and started competing for, and accepting talent that they knew was only going to be around for a year or two. What other factors can you come up with that caused the decline in the perception, and actual play of the ACC in basketball?
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Yes for a season. If you have any intelligence you cant make that argument for
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An era or a coach. Yea absolutely we were irrelevant last year. And why do some of you act like it’s football vs basketball I’m a fan of both and would like to see both be consistently relevant.
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I clearly have no intelligence, and am incapable of reason, or logic.
Feb 16, 2024, 2:37 PM
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And I've always enjoyed the "if you're not a COMPLETE MORON, you'll agree with me" approach to discourse.
And I do love how your profile pic supports your "I’m a fan of [CU basketball and football] ..." position.
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I agree with your first 5 words.
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And don’t have an argument otherwise that you would actually say Brownell’s era of basketball coaching is more relevant than Dabo’s era of football coaching. I’d love to see you make a coherent intelligent point that that is the case.
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Dont recall asserting Brownell's relevance
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in comparison to Swinney's.
That would be dumb.
What isn't dumb is asserting that Clemson's football team wasnt particularly relevant last year.
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That's just ONE SEASON, now.
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The big question is how will it be interpreted if one season turns into two, and two into three...and so on.
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Good job by our basketball program...hopefully we'll finish strong and make
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a decent showing in the ACC and NCAA tournament.
Doesn't change the fact that it is way past time for a coaching change.
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With a strong finish and trip to the NCAA Tournament
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Only Lunatic Fringe members would demand a change. Thank God that is a small minority. CBB is going to be your coach. CBB is going to get an extension. Clemson is having success. Enjoy it. Stop waiting for the sky to fall and get on board.
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Honestly. Who would level-up the program
Feb 16, 2024, 5:59 PM
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from where it is today?
Noone ever has a really compelling answer.
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Do I take this as you recanting that PJ Hall isnt the player
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The coaches thought he would be? It’s good to see you support the players for once. In the past it’s always been Brownell this and Brownell that.
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
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If these were your real standards and you weren’t a troll, you would never, EVER, have said a bad word about our football program.
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
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You might want to edit your OP. I don’t think our classy basketball program would stoop so low as to refer to a conference brother in a derogatory fashion like “Wusspack”. Do better! lol
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
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If only you made posts when we were losing....
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
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Difference between me and you is that I am proud of both the Basketball and Football Team .
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I'm very proud of our football program.
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Just disappointed that we've underachieved three years in a row despite significant advantages.
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From the beginning of the season i was waiting on this team to get a some
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confidence and lose that anxious energy. It looks like they are starting to play downhill so to speak and might be on the cusp of getting some momentum. WE've got a tough stretch to finish out the year. Alot of opportunity to get better and gel as a team and not just as individuals. Hopefully the trend continues.
I love that we're making a point to get the ball to the right people at the end of games these past couple of wins. Nothing worse than losing a lead within the last 2 minutes when you have the pieces on this team to guard against that. We'll still lose some games b/c the there are alot of teams with similar talent left on the schedule. Hopefully we will continue playing loose and confident.
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Re: From the beginning of the season i was waiting on this team to get a some
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Why do you consider the ending stretch "tough"?
We have 7 games left, 5 of them in the Quad3 category.
Home vs NC St - Quad 3 - we will be favored by 5+ points against a team we beat 3 times last year by double-digits
@ GTech - Quad 3 - this should not be scar. Tech has the 3rd-worst power 5 NET on our schedule and a terrible 3-11 conference record.
Home vs FSU - Quad 3 - we will be favored handily and should win going away
Home vs Pitt - Quad 2 - this will be a tough game. Pitt is playing well. Good to have this one at home.
@ ND - Quad 3 - similar to GTech. Should be an "easy" road game if one exists. ND has the 2nd-worse power 5 NET on our schedule.
Home vs Cuse - Quad 3 - we beat them up there, we should be able to handle them at home
@ Wake - Quad 1 - very tough matchup to end the season. We will be an underdog in this one.
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Those quad 3 teams are comparable in conference record to us
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outside of ND and GT but GT beat us already once. So they know they can match up well with us.
WE pulled away late in the Syracuse game but it was neck and neck most of the way. I always expect us to win the quad 3's and toss up the 1 and 2 but its possible those quad 3's will be dog fights. no gimme's..and quad 3 losses sting. But I like how we're trending and I just hope we can at least stay close to the level to end the season.
Tough is subjective. I'm more a murphy's law kinda guy so I look at everything as a uphill climb and never entertain complacency.
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
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This is just another veiled shot at Dabo and the football program, but just about everyone here knows that.
Incidentally, I like Brownell and hope he wins the rest of our games, does well in March Madness and stay sat Clemson, but really tire of JK and others trying to play him off against the football program that measures light years ahead of basketball by any metric.
Just stop!
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Judge Keller being insincere?
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Like white on rice.
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I'm being very sincere. I'm super proud of our basketball program.
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You should be, too.
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My post was about basketball, not football.
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It was posted on the basketball board. I never mentioned football.
So it's weird that you bring up football, because this isn't about football.
Although it's pretty funny, because that's the stereotype about Clemson fans - everything is about football.
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
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They’re really fun team to watch. A lot of my friends and family here in the Raleigh area say Clemson is their favorite team now  . A lotta love for the Chef.
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Schieffelin is awesome. Love his heart and hustle!***
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I'm really proud of our football program.
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Fixed it for you
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True, but you can stop with that ACC comparison.
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https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2022/net-conference
The ACC wasn’t this low for any other coach in Clemson history.
Good season, but not over yet. Anything short of the final 32 would be a MAJOR disappointment considering our experience and depth.
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Re: True, but you can stop with that ACC comparison.
Feb 16, 2024, 12:36 PM
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I agree with the ACC down comment.
However, those rankings are from 2022. The ACC is currently 4th in conference NET this season.
We are 5th in ELO and RPI.
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The ACC is not down
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and you do not need to buy into that narrative. The Big 12 has figured out the NET. Beat cupcakes by 40 in November and December. The ACC does not do that. That's why the ACC, no matter the number of selections, has consistently put teams in the Final Four. The Big 10 and Big 12 normally disappear after the first two rounds.
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What's odd
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is that all those years when the football team was the toast of the ACC, the argument was that the anti-ACC bias worked against the program by claiming the ACC was down in football.
So everyone would go to rankings, SoS, and the like, to show why the football team deserved respect.
But when it comes to basketball ... crickets.
Maybe people are just weary of Brownell and not basketball, per se.
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What's odd
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is that all those years when the football team was the toast of the ACC, the argument was that the anti-ACC bias worked against the program by claiming the ACC was down in football.
So everyone would go to rankings, SoS, A
and the like, to show why the football team deserved respect.
But when it comes to basketball ... crickets.
Maybe people are just weary of Brownell and not basketball, per se.
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
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And hopefully they can finish the season strong, and make the NCAA tournament.
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Well said - we're in a good place right now. Great by our standard.
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Feb 16, 2024, 12:47 PM
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I hope it continues.
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Head Coach [759]
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
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Feb 16, 2024, 2:46 PM
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Says the President of the CBB jock sniffer club. One would think that by now you would learn to keep your mouth shut because the crash is inevitably coming.
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All-In [44054]
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
Feb 16, 2024, 3:17 PM
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Orange Blooded [4095]
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
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Feb 16, 2024, 3:04 PM
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Human piece of ####...
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Oculus Spirit [77011]
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Adult adolescent ^^^***
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Feb 16, 2024, 3:08 PM
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CU Guru [1868]
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Yeah, Im proud
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Feb 16, 2024, 4:41 PM
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CBB has his flaws and he often disappoints. I’m not saying I don’t think we can do better or that the program couldn’t use new leadership, but that’s a risky proposition. . . And I’m proud of clemson basketball. We’re easily a top 25 team right now, and as deep as the competition is in college basketball, that’s saying something.
I was at CU in the shyatt years when we seemed to go 3-13 every year. Even then we were competing though. Remember seeing akin akingbala in the post office and telling him “hey Akin, good season,” and he appreciated it.
Then OP came in and we made it to a higher level. Remember seeing him at a bar downtown Charleston and telling him, “I’m just so proud of Clemson basketball.” He appreciated it too.
I don’t think we’re actually winning at a higher clip in conference during Brownell’s full tenure, but over the last two years we are. He’s giving us something to be proud of. I watch every game I can. College basketball is a beautiful thing, and the tigers are a really good college basketball team right now.
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Orange Blooded [2849]
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Brad Brownell
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Feb 16, 2024, 5:58 PM
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Has performed better than any Clemson coach in ACC play. He is has definitely had more success on the road in the ACC than most Clemson coaches. He deserves way more credit than he's getting from some of the crappy members of his fan base.
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CU Guru [1868]
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Hes aight
Feb 17, 2024, 8:05 AM
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At some point he’s gotta break through. 3 tourneys and 1 sweet 16 in 13 years is mediocre. There’s no arguing that. If this team doesn’t make noise in postseason, he oughta be done at Clemson
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CU Guru [1019]
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Re: Yeah, Im proud
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Feb 17, 2024, 8:29 AM
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Your post is way too accurate and reasonable to be on this thread.
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CU Guru [1868]
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Youre right i should probably be angrier***
Feb 17, 2024, 8:48 AM
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Orange Blooded [2849]
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You lame knuckle draggers in the Lunatic Fringe
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Feb 16, 2024, 5:49 PM
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Need to recognize you have one of the best basketball coaches in the business. Either get on board or get off his back. He is doing a great job. A portion of the Clemson fan base hate basketball. I do not understand it. They celebrate the losses and moan about the victories. It is pathetic.
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Legend [15749]
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Can you expand on their heavy involvement in community service?
Feb 16, 2024, 5:53 PM
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I don’t see those stories very often but I am a very passive follower of the program.
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All-In [44054]
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Heavily involved with Clemson Life and also do multiple community service
Feb 16, 2024, 6:58 PM
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projects every year.
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Legend [17626]
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I am too.
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Feb 16, 2024, 5:56 PM
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Hopefully we can sustain this level of performance for years to come.
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Starter [390]
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
Feb 16, 2024, 7:04 PM
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You state in this thread that you are disappointed in the football team for 3 years of underperforming.
How disappointed are you in the basketball team for over 13 years of underperforming?
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CU Guru [1893]
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
Feb 17, 2024, 9:33 AM
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After 13 seasons, it's about time. Even if Clemson makes the NCAA tournament this season, Brownell is still making the Big Dance less than 30% of the time. Who is satisfied with that?
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All-In [44054]
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Our basketball program hasn't underperformed.
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Feb 19, 2024, 11:37 AM
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When you look at our program history, as well as how poorly we fund and support our program at Clemson, we overachieve relative to what would be expected.
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Oculus Spirit [80413]
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It has underperformed for 14 years.***
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Feb 19, 2024, 11:42 AM
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Orange Blooded [4459]
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
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Feb 19, 2024, 11:32 AM
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The Judge must be posting from inside of the gamecock locker room
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Hall of Famer [24579]
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Re: I'm really proud of our basketball program.
Feb 19, 2024, 12:28 PM
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Even s#!++!^@ the bed vs the wusspack?...
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