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Quote from FSU BOT Chairman -
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Feb 27, 2023, 2:03 PM
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"We have a good handle on the GOR."
There's too much smoke, mostly from FSU but also from Clemson, for there not to be fire. It may not be a blaze, but it's not a dying ember either.
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Currently, about one-half of a billion dollars...
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Feb 27, 2023, 2:07 PM
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They might get more out of a handle of fine, brown liquors.
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I'm more optimistic than you.
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Feb 27, 2023, 2:21 PM
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Conference realignment has never been as expensive as it was first reported to be.
I'm not saying the path is easy, but I think it is not impossible.
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Optimistic? I doubt that, but even if that were so...
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Feb 27, 2023, 2:59 PM
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there is nothing pessimistic about understanding that GOR was originally signed by the member institutions and then updated in ~2016?
If those in control are just now suggesting, "they've got a handle on it", then that's a glaring problem, because they should have had a handle on it since inception and yet, nothing's changed.
It was skin in the game for ESPN to up the Network, so the Conference isn't the only one involved or the only mouths to feed.
The best way to change an existing, ironclad, even if punitive, deal is to offer a better one, or negotiate down the prior. There's good reason OU and Tejas waited to join the SEC/leave the Big12ish, these are no longer Maryland paying based on a fixed, declining/antiquated amount.
The new exit fees and GORs are based on revenue, which is an increasing amount opposed to static amounts former exit fees set. That's just good business.
The ACC hoped to leave VPI&SU in the cold, die on the vine in Big East pergatory, it was the Virginia Legislature that saved them from sure death, even though Hoki Hi seems to have fallen on their sword instead.
Something will change, I'm sure of it, but "we've got a handle on it" is a big business nothing burger.
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Even you miss your (occasional) brilliance
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Feb 27, 2023, 3:19 PM
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As you stated 'Virginia legislature'. There are more players in this than meets the eye. Most members are public universities supported with taxpayer funds. Where it's prudent (I know, I know...using that word and gov't) there are other considerations at hand. GOR is NOT fiduciary responsibility...that has to be addressed at all levels.
It's gonna be messy. Like me making a wedding cake messy! But when it's all done...there will be a cake, just not to everyone's taste.
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Yeps, I was only offering an example of how plans...
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Feb 27, 2023, 3:27 PM
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can drastically change, keeping it conference related.
UVA was forced to promise a no vote to expansion they'd already agreed to in principle.
Unexpected, but change.
I doubt SC would secede over this, not that ESPN would care as long as they got their money, but I'd vote for it.
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Re: Quote from FSU BOT Chairman -
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Feb 27, 2023, 2:20 PM
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Hope you’re right!
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What the hell is "GOR"
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Feb 27, 2023, 3:02 PM
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for us unworthy lowlifes?
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Grant of Rights...
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Feb 27, 2023, 3:20 PM
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It dictates who owns the rights to the media (i.e., television revenue), so if a member institution leaves, that school would have to pay the exit fee and forfeit the revenue gained through their media revenue with ACC.
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Re: Grant of Rights...
Feb 28, 2023, 7:15 AM
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So if we lost the ACC revenue and pay that money back on the media rights are we not still operating in the black if we were with the B1G/SEC.
One thing about the SEC is they have no real need for a Clemson or FSU in regards to tv.
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You'd have to be a one-eyed bling person...
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Feb 27, 2023, 3:15 PM
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not to see the problem.
It long past time the member institutions like FSU and Clemson to start looking-out for their own best interests.
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You dont think the leadership at Clemson has - in recent
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Feb 27, 2023, 3:18 PM
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times - been looking out for its own best interests? If President Clements hasn't been doing it then no one would do it.
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I am supremely confident that's happening...
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Feb 27, 2023, 3:22 PM
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I'm just not as optimistic that a loophole for a way out can be identified.
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In addition to that, I don't know there's a landing spot
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Feb 27, 2023, 3:28 PM
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that everyone thinks would be there….namely the SEC. I don't see ESPN, in today's tv spending environment, being too willing to open up the contract with the SEC to give them more money while devaluing the ACC simultaneously. Maybe, maybe the B1G would be able to pull the money together as a TV competitor of ESPN/Disney but the lawsuits for the destruction of the ACC by Disney could be costly…they won't lose the ACC content without a fight.
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The SEC's new media rights deal
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Feb 27, 2023, 3:55 PM
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starts in 2024 and runs until 2034.
The questions is certainly whether ESPN would renegotiate if the league added more teams?
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Re: The SEC's new media rights deal
Feb 28, 2023, 7:17 AM
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Just do not get negotiating that kind of money for 10 years unless the contract guarantees more monies as it ages.
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And, that is just exactly what they are doing.
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Feb 27, 2023, 4:44 PM
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Both schools, and others in the ACC, recognize that the ACC in its current form, cannot survive another 10 years. They are exploring all options and looking for the best one possible.
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At the end of the day...
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Feb 27, 2023, 4:55 PM
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the revenue disparity is not sustainable and the importance of finding a way out of this overly punitive and inequitable GOR deal is of paramount importance and cannot be overstated.
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Re: Quote from FSU BOT Chairman -
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Feb 27, 2023, 3:20 PM
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I take it they have a good handle on GOR is not a good thing and means they know it is such a simple document that it has no loop holes or cracks allowing us to exit. This was the first public shot fired to get the ball rolling and possibly other conference members to wake up.
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Re: Quote from FSU BOT Chairman -
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Feb 27, 2023, 3:36 PM
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Brett, do you have a link to where this statement was published? I read a 24/7 article recapping their recent BOT meeting but that statement wasn’t part of the article.
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Re: Quote from FSU BOT Chairman -
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Feb 27, 2023, 3:37 PM
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he posted it earlier today.
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Where there’s smoke there’s fire.
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Feb 27, 2023, 4:31 PM
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Somethings a brewing. The question is simply when does this happen!
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FSU and Clemson may entertain a joint suit against
Feb 28, 2023, 5:04 AM
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the ACC over the bugaboo GOR...Come to think of it, wouldn't be a bad idea to call Richard Harpootlian in Columbia to handle it. Clemson grad and the bulldog of bulldogs in a court of law.
I knew him very well at Clemson, as he came to work on our news staff at "The Tiger," the year I was Editor-in-Chief. He was formidable then; he remains so to this day.
I despised that GOR, when it was introduced, almost as much as I have despised the ACC for 58 years, since my freshman year. Can't imagine why Clemson ever went along with that travesty.
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Desperate times, desperate measures...
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Feb 28, 2023, 7:28 AM
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Good morning, hartins®.
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Yep, classic, but I try to keep an open mind, some...
Feb 28, 2023, 8:22 AM
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of the nonsense surrounding it is funny.
Or maybe that's just me?
Happy Tuesday, TR.
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Re: Yep, classic, but I try to keep an open mind, some...
Feb 28, 2023, 11:55 AM
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The only people that got a lot of money out of this deal was Swofford and Son.
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