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Note the complaint, but you need real evidence, not hearsay

Sep 29, 2021, 3:23 PM

Right now it's just hearsay. Your HR department is going to need real evidence, which would mean you would need to personally observe this behavior AND document it. Depending on the company and the type of work, the results of this could be one of a couple things.
1. A discussion with the rock star employee that this behavior was observed by you and that it needs to change or you need to be notified when he will be out or leaving early by more than whatever time period you decide (an hour, two hours, whatever).
2. For a government contractor, this actually gets into a serious offense and it could be considered timekeeping fraud and have serious ramifications for your company. The previous government contractor I worked with had a zero tolerance policy for timekeeping fraud.

But aside from that, there's a couple questions -
a. Does your company have a standard work hours policy? My last company was 9/80 with "standard" work day of 7:45-5:30 with a 45-minute lunch allowed, if an employee wanted to deviate from that, it needed approval and the employee was responsible for informing his programs of any work shift. This feeds into the next question...
b. OK, so he leaves early. But does he come in early? Are the rabblerousers there when he gets in and can personally attest that he hasn't already covered the hours at the beginning of the day?
c. Does he work from home in addition to the time spent in the office?
d. Following point two above - are you a government contractor? If you are, you need to make sure his hours worked match his hours charged. And the government usually doesn't care if it's one of their programs or not, timekeeping fraud is timekeeping fraud in their eyes. Their money or someone else's they just see it as a violation.

Oh, and yes, I've dealt with some of this #### as a supervisor. You have your work cut out for you and you'll need to build the case along with your HR or compliance people.

God speed and good luck.

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in CHS back before remote work was a thing. I had one employee that lived in NY and would travel down here during the week.

Obviously, his fam got tired of that pretty quick, so his weekends started getting longer and longer. One week, he didn't come back to work, so on Wednesday, I called him and asked if he was coming back to work, and told him if not, I had to let him go.

He started with how bad he felt leaving his family in NY on weekends, and how his kids cried when he left and all this other crap (why did I care that he got a job in town 800 miles away?). All I could tell him was that his job was here, and he had to be here for it. If I had to be here, so did he. He went off on a yelling and cursing tirade. I had never had an employee yell at me solid for 10+ minutes, so I just put the phone down and let him go. I didn't really listen to much of it. I heard it get quiet, so I picked up the phone and heard him say said he was calling HR. I told him to do what he had to do.

About an hour later I got a call from HR and they said me and my boss had to meet with them. HR had talked to the dude and they asked me if I had informed the guy what his office hours were? And I'm like, well..I've been here two weeks...I thought he would have known that? I explained about the 10 minute cursing tirade he gave me, and got a blank stare back from the HR chick. He had already addressed that to her, and denied any of it.

In the end, I had to apologize to him for not listening to his concerns (in front of my boss), and resend him his job description in email, and get a signed letter from him he understood what his working hours were.

I quit 2 weeks later.

How would you handle this hypothetical work dilemma?

Fire the unproductive snitches

This is the right answer

can you come be a consultant for our company?

I find most companies have a 50 mile rule for consultants

Nice - my company went one notch better and hired the

so it's totally normal for us to start using them

Make it easy for him to request official time off, like

If you like him, sit him down and be real with him

D. Tell the snitch

Yeah or else you'll

I truly thought I opened a rulez reply***

The way to handle this in a manner that will help address

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Re: How would you handle this hypothetical work dilemma?

What do you call a vampire that's had too much to eat?

I would have a meeting with the snitchers. In person.

A. BUt I would also tell him to run it by me if he needs to

Give up and kill yourself.***

Great, now there is

I see someone is spending a leisurely afternoon on

Re: How would you handle this hypothetical work dilemma?

I found Bob in accounting who makes his employees

Especially the dudes, so he can Bob on that DEEEEEEKKK***

This may be the first time I TU a Memphis post.***

hey, the employee is pretty sharp.

lol, what a ####***

Re: How would you handle this hypothetical work dilemma?

Lolutz, I’m assuming this hypothetical ain’t for a gubmint

Re: How would you handle this hypothetical work dilemma?

Great suggestion.

Re: Great suggestion.

I can tell you've been a manager for awhile***

Note the complaint, but you need real evidence, not hearsay

I was a new hire at a company that sounds like "blackboard"

Heard that company was crap to work for

For new hires, its terrible.

Re: Note the complaint, but you need real evidence, not hearsay

Usually it is more of a serious issue you have to deal with.

Re: How would you handle this hypothetical work dilemma?

Apologies in advance for no humor involved

to be honest, I am not that productive***

Review months of security footage and

If you want people to act like hourly workers

great answer, change the stupid rule!

I once had a boss at a certain large corporation in Gville

Same stupid b**** told me I need to take classes to overcome

She didn't look like Harry Potter did she?

She looked more like peter pan at the time. Initials KH.

2007-2020 - dang I can't even think of Harry's real name

I also had a creepy upper level manager make an

My manager suggested that I like to r8pe goats

dang that dguar guy was funny***

It's funny, I worked at the same place

Yes I did that 9/80 too which was the only perk

Someone tried to recommend me for that program

I had that at my first job out of college.

$22.5k a year you say?

Easily A.***

Probably a mix of A & C, most of the serious responses in

I get paid on commission basically...

Fire the SOB. He’s likely d0nking your wife or GF when leaving early.***

I'd go with C. But that can get you in trouble. I know. ****

depends on the company and level of transparency

None of the above....

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I hate snitches. I would fire them all.

I love being in this position

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