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YObed, car maintenence.net quershins
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Mar 25, 2024, 12:25 PM
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Q60 has had a couple instances in the past, say, 2 months, where driving first thing in the morning (school dropoffs) it felt like it was running on 3 cylinders instead of 6. Sluggish, not shifting correctly, very underpowered and unresponsive. Weird. Make it home, and the next time the car starts 30 minutes later, it's like it never happened. The couple times it happened, never got a dash light/warning, and code reader didn't show anything.
However, this past week, the Check Engine light came on when it did this half-power thing, so I put the reader on it, cleared the codes, and pulled P0011: “A” Camshaft Timing Over Advanced (Bank 1). Googling indicates:
-It can be triggered by a faulty camshaft actuator, failed VVT solenoid, damaged timing components, and circuit issues. -Low engine oil levels, oil contamination, and issues with the PCM can also trigger the code.
Decided since I needed an oil change anyway to have Infiniti look at it and tell me what the issue is. Naturally, they couldn't get it to duplicate on Thursday when I took it in. Guy texts me on Friday and says he still can't get it to kick, nor can they pull historic codes (tell me that's accurate because it sounds like bullshit--clearing codes on a reader shouldn't delete everything that's ever happened in the onboard CPU). No more updates. I texted on Saturday asking for an update, no answer. So they're keeping my car for the whole weekend without telling me? Nah, fam.
I went in this morning to pick my car up, prepared to pay the $300 diagnostic fee for attaching a code reader and not reading anything, and driving the car around the block a few times, and then never ever talking to Baker Infiniti again. Technician comes out and was like "I didn't expect to see you here". Bro, you had my car for 4 days and didn't tell me you were doing that.
He asked if I'd take a loaner and let them try it for another day or two, so like a sucker, I caved.
The main question I have is, how hard is it to work on or replace a camshaft? I know nothing about these parts and functionality, and my mechanical capabilities land roughly around brakes and alternators, and not much deeper. Without knowing actual prices, this feels like something that Infiniti would quote $1,200 for, a decent non-Infiniti mechanic would quote $600 for, and probably something I could do myself for $150 in parts (or less) if it's manageable given my skillset.
And....GO.
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I know nothing about camshafts
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Mar 25, 2024, 12:31 PM
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but I do know my mom's lexus was doing something very similar to what you described. They did in fact replace the VVT solenoid, problem solved.
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You forgot to tag him
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Mar 25, 2024, 12:32 PM
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I'm here. and it depends on how big the trees are in your yard.
Mar 25, 2024, 12:36 PM
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because you will have to take out the motor to get to the cam shaft. Best way is a strong sturdy branch and a rope.
1st way is to then tie it to your neck and hang yourself because getting cams out of these new motors is awful.
or 2. put it around the motor and pull it up out of the engine well.
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The first step is ALWAYS
Mar 25, 2024, 12:50 PM
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to put it on a lift to see if it is 4x4 or not
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You just gotta burn the gunk out of it.***
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Mar 25, 2024, 12:33 PM
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I can't help with this but in my experience, it is best to let the dealership
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Mar 25, 2024, 12:37 PM
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change out your wiper blades while they are working on the car. Should be less than $150 with the coupon. Sweet talk the guy behind the counter, they usually have a coupon or two laying around.
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The fact that it's intermittent suggests electrical more than mechanical,
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Mar 25, 2024, 12:38 PM
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so it's probably something more like the solenoid than an actual mechanical timing components of the camshaft assembly or the camshaft itself. Similarly, if it were something with the timing itself (chain stretched or jumped, or loose tensioner) I'd expect the problem would not go away.
I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of that engine, but in my experience on other cars it could be as perfectly simple as two bolts and a connector and pop the solenoid/actuator off the outside of the timing cover, or it could be as difficult as removing the valve cover and timing cover to access the component. If it's the same engine as this video, the answer is somewhere in the middle. If I had to guess, you wouldn't be getting any change from a $1000 bill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuq2_EOb-Sg
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What year is it?***
Mar 25, 2024, 12:46 PM
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Currently 2024.
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Mar 25, 2024, 12:51 PM
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Will be that way for awhile.
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Lot o points [155973]
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Legit question and not me being snarky.
Mar 25, 2024, 1:12 PM
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Have you had rather lengthy oil change intervals, like 10-15k? And I ask that understanding that the car's computer may have even been telling you that those were the proper intervals.
This is a component that operates in a constant oil bath and goes bad from getting gummed/sludged up, and this is a relatively new car to be experiencing a lubricated part getting that dirty.
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No, less than 10K.
Mar 25, 2024, 1:21 PM
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I'll typically run around 7-8K between changes with synthetic. Only had this car for a year or so.
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Lot o points [155973]
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Gotcha, so it's possible the prior owners
Mar 25, 2024, 1:33 PM
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had poor maintenance schedules. Any chance the oil level in the car was low? That can cause this as well.
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Dear sir
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Mar 25, 2024, 1:10 PM
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We regret to inform you that Mr. Obed has already received his maximum number of requests for car or mechanical related questions of 2 per day.
Please withhold your question until 9 am eastern on the date of 26 MAR 2024.
Kind Regards,
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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My last Hemi ate the cam shaft at around 140k miles and it was a
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Mar 25, 2024, 1:28 PM
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$5k ordeal. Buckle up.
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