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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 9:42 AM
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It really is a shame he wont be here in 4 years.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 9:43 AM
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Oh, I know, VizTiz just seems beyond himself at the prospect....
I'm going out on a limb here: I think we win at least 40 this year.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 10:21 AM
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You are all so cute. Find anywhere - ever - where I said Monte Lee was a bad coach. I still doubt he's here in four years. There are lots of reasons that could happen.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 10:30 AM
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CARE TO WAGER ON THAT OH WISE VIZ.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 10:55 AM
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He already has which is pretty sad that he is willing to bet AGAINST the Tigers.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 1:12 PM
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It's not betting against the Tigers. It's betting that a particular coach won't still be here in four years. In the landscape of college sports it's actually a pretty safe bet. You're the one reading into.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 1:14 PM
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UH CARE TO WAGER
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 1:15 PM
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Already have.
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Re: How about listing those reasons...
Mar 9, 2016, 1:13 PM
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I've done it ad nauseum. I'm not circus monkey. Look it up or better yet think of a few yourself.
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Re: How about listing those reasons...
Mar 9, 2016, 1:15 PM
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YOU ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE A CIRCUS MONKEY. LOL
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Re: How about listing those reasons...
Mar 9, 2016, 1:18 PM
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Good one. Should we prove how tough we are by trading insults now and smashing our caps lock key like enraged five year olds?
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See as I don't agree with you, a meteor is all I got
Mar 9, 2016, 2:13 PM
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So calm down and C/P one of them... Just one is a start. He's got bad hair or an old war wound that's going to get him. Something...
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Re: How about listing those reasons...
Mar 9, 2016, 1:34 PM
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From the guy that changed his username when he got stone busted for being a liar about how much he always supported the team even when Leggett was the coach.
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Re: How about listing those reasons...
Mar 9, 2016, 1:44 PM
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False little buddy.
Sorry facts dont back up your accusations.
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Re: How about listing those reasons...
Mar 9, 2016, 1:46 PM
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How many usernames are you gonna force people to remember to keep track of your bs. You've lost any credibility.
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Re: How about listing those reasons...
Mar 9, 2016, 1:50 PM
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lol so I change my name after 8 years and suddenly I have lost credibility....
That is rich.
If only we could be like you and only show up on gamedays when Clemson Baseball and Basketball lose. You have zero credibility due to that and betting AGAINST Clemson. PATHETIC. You are a loser plain and simple. You spout out BS that is factually incorrect and accuse others of doing things they never did.
I noticed you were amazingly absent during the Wins over the Chickens after running your mouth all day on Friday.
FACTS:
I was here wins or losses pulling for the Tigers under Coach Leggett.
You are never here if we win in Bball or Baseball.
Those two are facts period plain and simple. End of story you lose again much like you are going to lose 100 bucks in about 4 years.
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Re: How about listing those reasons...
Mar 9, 2016, 2:02 PM
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I'm here now and we won at both sports the last time we played - so you're already completely off base.
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Re: How about listing those reasons...
Mar 9, 2016, 3:29 PM
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Ah yes only took you till Wed to show your face after all your BS you spewed on Friday.
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Re: How about listing those reasons...
Mar 9, 2016, 3:43 PM
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Link to "all your bs?" I made a exactly one comment that could be inferred as being negative but I was really making fun of the OP.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 17, 2016, 9:37 PM
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We have 4 more wins right now than we had at this time last year!!! With only 16 games into this season, that is a big difference!!!
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I had a HS baseball coach believe in yelling/belitting guys
Mar 9, 2016, 9:54 AM
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when they messed up. He also was notorious for pulling position players in the middle of innings when they made errors. It was pretty embarrassing and luckily it never happened to me. It happened to one of my best friends once though and he never started again after it (it completely destroyed his confidence). It made EVERY guy uptight and scared for their job. We never had success, mainly to blame for him holding us back. All the guys just ignored him and came together to play for each other. There's no quicker way to lose your team if you consistently yell when things are bad but are quiet when things are going good. I liked my coach off the field but he was over the top in the dugout.
I'm not saying never get on your team's @ss, but you gotta realize there's a line there and you can't cross it when people make mistakes. I'm also not saying Jack did this to the guys and this is what made them tight. But everything in that Monte quote is 10000% true.
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Indifference and lack of hustle are really the only 2 things
Mar 9, 2016, 10:07 AM
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that screaming is called for. Those are inexcusable and can be prevented. Everything else can be corrected.
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i would add mental mistakes with the two you listed,
Mar 9, 2016, 11:44 AM
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physical errors are a part of the game, just need to limit them as much as possible.
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The ability to change is a great sign. I just hope he
Mar 9, 2016, 10:40 AM
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stays and for goodness sakes never entertains the thought of moving a 100 miles south when someone gets run off. I do believe he's starting to realize that this is home and there is no place like it.
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I had a high schol soccer coach like that....
Mar 9, 2016, 11:16 AM
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But for a couple of his favorites who routinely made mistakes that hurt the team, several other guys on the team played in constant fear of being pulled from the game if they made even the slightest mistake. We were pretty good, largely because we all played together for several years, but we always seemed to play tighter than a snare drum.
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I did two tours as a Marine Corps DI...also played baseball
Mar 9, 2016, 11:16 AM
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in HS and college for two totally different style coaches. My HS coach would light us up for not hustling, running our mouths, or mental errors only....never said a word about a physical error except to pat you on the back to "get 'em next time". My college coach was abrasive almost all of the time, especially to pitchers and catchers, and he would say things like, "HAVE AN IDEA OUT THERE!" after an error, and it would continue once in the dugout. That type of belittlement can take the wind out of an 18 to 22 year old kid, period. We were playing East Carolina my sophomore year and I picked an outside fastball out of the dirt, made the throw down to second off balance, the ball rode up and away but the 2B man still caught it, tagged the guy on the helmet but dropped the ball. Ump signaled OUT then safe once ball came out. Next hitter up hit a 2 run bomb and we lost 4-2. After the inning he grabbed me and said, "YOU HAVE TO MAKE A BETTER THROW THERE!" in front of the whole team. The ball was 2 feet outside, shorthopped into my mitt and I still had the guy out before the ball came out of our 2B man's glove. We dealt with that stuff all of the time. We played tight and afraid to fail. My HS coach had an impact on me forever, as I suspect Monte Lee will with these kids. As a DI in the Marine Corps, I was a savage, ruthless, nasty SOB all day, every day because I was training those idiots to survive combat. Sports is not combat in any way, shape or form. Players need to be loose through a long, grinding season of baseball. That sport is different than any other game. You can get shut out one day and blow a team out the next because of pitching, etc.. Monte Lee is the truth, period. Best hire other than Dabo we have made in YEARS.
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Bbbut Dabo and Andy Teasdall...***
Mar 9, 2016, 11:26 AM
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Sure, Dabo was a bit over the top at that moment but
Mar 9, 2016, 11:42 AM
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he's not like that all day, every day. If he was, he'd never been hired in the first place. Either that or he'd be just like Butch Jones....
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easier to play loose when the fan base isn't actively...
Mar 9, 2016, 11:40 AM
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hoping you will lose, and now the fanbase actually cheers again instead of being stone cold silent the whole game. By the way, we won our series against the coots last season
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Re: easier to play loose when the fan base isn't actively...
Mar 9, 2016, 11:45 AM
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Well, last year JL's team promptly went out and lost to Winthrop after the USCjr. series 5-4.
They were horrible mid-week. Then they lost mid-week to Michigan St. after dropping the series to NC St.
Maybe it's more a case of not having much to cheer about?
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more like our baseball fanbase quit on the team...
Mar 9, 2016, 1:14 PM
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just because the coots won a national title, that had more to do with it than anything else. Never, ever go into freak out mode just because some Johnny come lately coot fans talk trash. In the end the tide turned back in our favor against the coots, before Leggett was let go. Even with all the negativity from the baseball fanbase.
That said Lee is a great hire, but he is taking over a good team. We didn't have this huge drop off, that the baseball fanbase made it out to be. The purpose of your post was just to take a shot at Leggett. But, it doesn't work because the tide had turned back to us in our rivalry against the coots, before Leggett was let go.
Just celebrate the baseball team's victories. Don't use each victory to slam an all time Clemson great and class act.
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Re: more like our baseball fanbase quit on the team...
Mar 9, 2016, 1:20 PM
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No where in his post was Coach Leggett even mentioned.
Are you not capable of reading?
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Re: more like our baseball fanbase quit on the team...
Mar 9, 2016, 1:27 PM
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Pretty clear to everyone but him, that is. Wow, just wow.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 1:41 PM
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Let me ask you something RB. This is your statement: "no question remains: Monte was/is a great hire." You're making an absolute declarative statement after 10 games. How long is this assessment good for? What happens if we go .500 in ACC and don't make the post-season? Is it still "no question?" You guys are acting exactly like the Coots who are over on FGF pretending they truly believe Muschamp is gonna deliver them to the promised land. How about let him coach a game, or in Lee's case get through an ACC series. Since you've decided no questions remain it kind of sounds like whatever happens from here out is irrelevant because Lee is unquestionably the best choice. Therefore he's free to not win another game the rest of his career because, well, he doesn't need to - it is unquestionable that he's the right choice. Can you see that maybe that is a little silly?
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Re: The only thing I see is that you're a moran
Mar 9, 2016, 1:50 PM
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Your "logic" (if one may call it that) and presumption that Lee is beyond criticism is ridiculous. We expect to win here.
You remind me of the same morans who said the same things about Tommy Bowden.
But more to the point, I don't know what agenda you have in trying to undermine Coach Lee. Either get on board, or get out.
TIA.
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Re: The only thing I see is that you're a moran
Mar 9, 2016, 2:00 PM
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So, you concede that "no question remains: Monte was/is a great hire" was pure hyperbole. Because if isn't beyond criticism then obviously the possibly exists that a question may remain. Sorry, you are the one being inconsistent.
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Re: The only thing I see is that you're a moran
Mar 9, 2016, 2:08 PM
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I concede nothing; the only things that are apparent are your shortcomings in reading comprehension and faulty logic.
And your agenda against Coach Lee.
"Pure hyperbole", lulz......you're a USCjr grad, aren't you? You don't even know how to use the word properly.
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Re: The only thing I see is that you're a moran
Mar 9, 2016, 2:11 PM
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I've asked politely so please humor me - how should "no question remains: Monte was/is a great hire" be interpreted since "no question" apparently doesn't mean the same thing to you and I. Should it have read "no question remains because at this precise moment it appears that it was a great hire but obviously that could change at any time." Because, if so, that seems like a rather silly sentiment.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:01 PM
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I'm not the one arguing that it is now indisputable that he is the best coach we could have possibly hired.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:03 PM
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But last week you said he would not be here in 4 years.
You didn't mean he would leave for another job either.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:12 PM
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I have absolutely said that is one of the reason he might not be here.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:14 PM
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Since you seem to change those reasons so often can you give a list?
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:07 PM
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Why will he not be here in 4 years? We won't see a big enough improvement and will run him off? Or they'll be so much improvement that a school will offer him a small island to come be their coach and we won't pay enough to keep him? Just curious as to why u think it's a good bet he'll be gone.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:20 PM
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Short answer, because I've done this more than once. 1) Coaches rarely succeed following a legendary coach. In fact, Leggett is pretty much the only example in Clemson history. 2). Clemson has a terrible history of outside coaching hires. Virtually every high level successful coach at this school has already been on campus when they became coach. Noonan is one of the only exceptions. 3) Clemson has demonstrated that it is not investing in sports other than football at a level above the conference median - if he is successful he will be a target for a lot of schools, not the least of which is South Carolina who may very well come calling after this year.
I hope he wins big, goes to the CWS, and gets a big fat extension with a prohibitive two way buyout. Unlike ClemTigeralumm07117 who doesn't go to games, I'll be there. But I think it was a high risk low reward hire. I can believe that and hope to be wrong. We don't have to be DerpRoberts who refuses to ever express even the slightest negative sentiment.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 3:38 PM
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3) Clemson has demonstrated that it is not investing in sports
So we didnt just get done spending money at BTF, Riggs, and LJ (in progress).
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 3:45 PM
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Any reason you left this part out: " above the conference median." It kind of makes a difference.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 3:47 PM
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Please show me the 8 other Baseball stadiums in the ACC that are better than BTF.
Please show me the 8 other Soccer Stadiums that are better than Riggs in the ACC.
Please show me 8 other schools that just invested 60+ Million into their bball Arena in the last 5 years in the ACC.
You MIGHT have an argument for bball but you are WRONG on the other two.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 4:07 PM
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Your rationals about BTF are purely emotional. Even with the latest improvements we lag far behind the conference leaders in baseball spending. I actually went into this in some great detail last year but you don't read or care about facts so there is absolutely no point compiling it again.
Basketball you can't even be serious. Even with the most recent investments if you amortize total basketball spending over any 10 year span of time I guarantee you we're in the bottom half of the conference.
Soccer - I honestly don't know and already acknowledged Noonan was a great hire somewhere in this thread.
women's basketball - really?
Volleyball - also really?
ACC sponsored sports that we don't even bother: Fencing, Field Hockey, Lacrosse, Softball, Swimming & Diving (M), and Wrestling.
It doesn't scream an AD committed to success across the sports spectrum.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 18, 2016, 7:40 AM
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So you were not able to show me a list of schools.
Thanks for clearing that up
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:22 PM
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We did this over and over last year. Someone with ties to Clemson would have been nice or someone who had been to Omaha. But Drad burnt every bridge for the first option and they weren't willing to spend money to get the second. I do believe, barring those conditions, he was as good a hire as could be made. I've never said otherwise.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:25 PM
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GOD YOU ARE DELUSIONAL DUDE.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:30 PM
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Yes he is.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:26 PM
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Well coach Lee had CofC almost to the point where they could hang with anybody.
What do you think he will do at Clemson an already big time baseball school.
Not a mid major
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:31 PM
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They got bounced from a conference tournament they hosted to UNC-W last year. His record was virtually identical to Pawlowksi who did not exactly thrive at the SEC level.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:33 PM
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Yea last season after they lost lots of players that came real close to playing in the CWS
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:37 PM
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I CERTAINLY HAVE NOT ANNOINTED MONTE BUT ANYONE THAT DOESNT THINK HE WAS EITHER #1 OR 1A ON THE HIRE LIST THEN YOU ARE JUST TO FAR OUT THERE TO BE HELPED. HAD SULLY NOT BEEN IN THE POSITION HE WAS IN LAST YEAR, HE MAY HAVE COME INTO PLAY BUT THOSE 2 WERE REALLY THE ONLY 2 GIVEN CONSIDERATION.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:37 PM
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I agree
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:39 PM
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Look, I'm not rooting against the guy. And thanks for staying civil unlike most others. I didn't like the way Leggett was handled and I thought it should have been an indisputable home run if they were gonna do it. That didn't happen. I hope he can get it done and when he does that we are willing to do whatever it takes to hold onto him. I have my doubts - about all of those scenarios. That is all. That's all I've ever expressed. Unfortunately we're not supposed to express anything other than unwavering support for grown men being paid absurd sums of money. You'll never catch me crack on a player - ever.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:44 PM
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Give us a name for your "homerun hire"
Because by all account Monte was at the top of our board.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:44 PM
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I have been following Clemson baseball for 30 years.
Have been to 100s of games and the last 3 years was not Clemson baseball.
It's early and a lot can happen but I'm excited again.
So we shall see
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:55 PM
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I've been watching it for over 20 and have followed the team to two CWS. I think our fanbase played a tangible role in the turn things took. It got really unpleasant to take my kids to games and really reached a boiling point with the language directed at both coaches and players in the stands last season. It had reached a point where a change was inevitable but I think we were complicit in those problems.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:46 PM
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Most people have no problem with others who express dissent. Difference is you ONLY #####. You ONLY show up after losses and never after wins.
You were no where to be found after we beat the ##### until today.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:47 PM
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BET HE WAS HERE FRIDAY NIGHT. LOL
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:57 PM
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He was
He magically was no where to be found Saturday and Sunday.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 3:56 PM
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"He magically was no where to be found Saturday and Sunday"
117 it must be time consuming keeping track of when people do and don't post .
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 3:58 PM
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Not that hard to see when posters are no where around if you are here during the game enjoying wins with other Clemson fans.
Also I am not the only one to recognize that he doesnt post when we win.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 3:03 PM
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"Most people have no problem with others who express dissent. "
This is funny coming from you 117
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:36 PM
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It doesn't take a real smart person to know Coach Lee is going to be doing this for a long time.
We are real lucky to get him and that's why Jack was fired.
Jack would still be here if Lee was not available.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 3:55 PM
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Or that he was considered by people out that way as the fallback if a major program coach turned them down and then they got Tracy Smith from Indiana who was viewed as the best target in the nation that year. I'm sure you know for a fact that he was offered the job though.
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You seem incapable of using specifics in arguments
Mar 9, 2016, 2:32 PM
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My failing memory for the minutia of year old posts that I may not have read, but when you fail to list your points or name names.... seems a little weak.
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Re: You seem incapable of using specifics in arguments
Mar 9, 2016, 2:33 PM
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So you criticize me for not providing specifics in a post where I respond with specifics? Stick to math.
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I'll make this easy...
Mar 9, 2016, 2:37 PM
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who was choice one? who was choice two? what bridges were burned? If you know about what happened during that process, please enlighten me. That is being specific. How can you say that you use specifics when you just threw out a bunch of supposition and code names.
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Re: I'll make this easy...
Mar 9, 2016, 2:48 PM
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What are you talking about? First, you hadn't addressed me directly till right now. So get off of your high horse. There was plenty of extremely negative sentiment from a variety of active coaches after Leggett's dismissal. I would have to spend some time to pull up exact quotes from last summer and I see no reason to do that. Tim Corbin and Kevin O'Sullivan were obviously immediately off the table at the point. Based on what became publicly available in interviews and based on the CWS schedule we know that there was no effort to interview any of the head coaches in the CWS last year. We didn't interview McDonnell at Louisville. We resigned ourselves from the get go to an assistant or a mid major coach. And, once again, within those parameters we did pretty good.
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Re: I'll make this easy...
Mar 9, 2016, 2:56 PM
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YOU CAN BELIEVE SULLY WAS OFF THE TABLE IF YOU WISH BUT HE WAS NOT. ODONNELL LET IT BE KNOWN HE WAS HAPPY WHERE HE WAS AT. SO, WE HAD TO SETTLE ON POOR OLD MONTE, A GUY THAT HAD TURNED DOWN ASU JUST THE YEAR BEFORE. THAT WHAT WE ARE "THE SETTLERS"
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with the way Leggett was done, Lee was the only quality...
Mar 9, 2016, 3:01 PM
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candidate out there that was willing to take the job. Leggett had a ton of respect in College Baseball. No proven coach at a big program was going to come after the way Leggett was let go. And none of Leggetts former assistants would consider.
I agree with you viz about the way Leggett was done. But, Lee is a good hire. It's perfectly fine to not like the way Leggett was done. But, at the same time it's ok to acknowledge that at least at this point Lee was a good choice. All though he was most likely the only quality candidate that would consider us.
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Re: with the way Leggett was done, Lee was the only quality...
Mar 9, 2016, 3:49 PM
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I think I've acknowledged repeatedly that barring a major program coach with CWS experience or an alumni of prominence he was the best choice. But these folks trying to coronate him king of all baseball after 10 days need to take a chill pill. It sounds exactly like coots squawking about Muschamp to me.
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Re: with the way Leggett was done, Lee was the only quality...
Mar 9, 2016, 3:52 PM
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Except you know the whole fact that Lee was actually successful at his last coaching gig. You seem very coot like with your excitement that you have shown over the past 4 months every time Clemson Basketball or Baseball lose a game.
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Re: with the way Leggett was done, Lee was the only quality...
Mar 9, 2016, 4:09 PM
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I could easily say it's coot like that 5 straight NIT or less seasons from a basketball coach warrants continued employment. They're awfully proud of the back-to-back NIT banners.
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Re: with the way Leggett was done, Lee was the only quality...
Mar 9, 2016, 4:10 PM
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You mean like how I have said I am not happy with our basketball programs current status and next year is NCAAT or bust.
Oh yea...
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Re: with the way Leggett was done, Lee was the only quality...
Mar 9, 2016, 4:22 PM
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you're not happy but 6 seasons isnt enough to go on so let's go for number 7. Do you honestly think anything will be different. Oh, we've got some transfers. Haven't heard that in the last 6 years. Still sounds awfully cootish.
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Re: with the way Leggett was done, Lee was the only quality...
Mar 9, 2016, 4:24 PM
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No its more like the simple fact that he sint going to be fired this year regardless of what I think and coming here after every loss while being no where to be found when we win is a pathetic way to support a team.
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Re: with the way Leggett was done, Lee was the only quality...
Mar 9, 2016, 4:36 PM
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It's a fundamental difference of opinion. I don't think this board has anything whatsoever to do with "supporting the team." That's what my money and attendance are for. You campaigned vigorously against Leggett and there had to be a reason. I would assume it was to affect sentiment towards the coach. Brownell is gonna be here losing early clunkers to terrible teams every year until sentiment against him reaches critical mass. His 5 game stretch mid season seems to have staved that off another year. But his return next year was by no means assured prior to that. Economically firing him this year or next is a complete wash and risks opening the "new" arena without any sense of excitement.
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Re: Larry Williams tweet about Monte....
Mar 9, 2016, 2:22 PM
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I know this
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Are they a better test than the coots?
Mar 9, 2016, 2:25 PM
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I don't see them ranked, but that may not mean anything yet
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Re: Are they a better test than the coots?
Mar 9, 2016, 2:27 PM
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No not even close but they are decent.
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Re: Are they a better test than the coots?
Mar 9, 2016, 2:32 PM
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I know it's early but their RPI is in the 100s. Our next real test is Miami.
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Guys, it's baseball... Who cares?***
Mar 18, 2016, 7:29 AM
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It was done in football and baseball...
Mar 18, 2016, 7:46 AM
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It can be done in hoops. Some don't want to admit that FACT.
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