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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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pubs need to stop fretting over what the party needs....
Nov 7, 2012, 9:07 AM
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to change.
Bottom line is nobody was going to beat Obama. He won by getting his people out yet again. Had nothing to do with his accomplishments or the issues. It was all political machine.
Quite frankly, I am disgusted with the right wing pundits attacking Romney now. Did he make some tactical errors? I'm sure he did. Would it have mattered? I don't believe so.
I see people worrying about whether our candidate was not conservative enough. Don't think it matters. McCain was a horrible candidate and I actually think Romney was a good candidate that has the skill set we actually need to move us back in the right direction.
I consider myself conservative and i guarantee Romney would have done some things that I personally don't like, but I don't believe my preferences are what's important. As Governor Christie said, we are going to have make some hard choices to right this ship.
So now we just have to wait out these next four years and hope we survive it. There is absolutely no evidence that things will be any different from the last four years considering recent history and the substance of ideas laid out by this administration.
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I love it.
Nov 7, 2012, 9:12 AM
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Obama wins because of the evil political machine paying all the dark people to vote.
Republicans because of their ideals.
Here's the bottom line... The same people that thought Romney was going win, think the economy isn't getting better. And then you have the nerve to talk about democrats using a political machine.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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"evil" is the word you used not me
Nov 7, 2012, 9:13 AM
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but then again, I never expect you to make a reasonable statement
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Yeah, he sees stuff written that's just not there.***
Nov 7, 2012, 9:14 AM
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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among the most partisan posters on here...
Nov 7, 2012, 9:15 AM
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and that is saying something
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Rock Defender [54]
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Bottom line is that if, as conservatives, our fears about
Nov 7, 2012, 9:15 AM
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the fiscal future of the country are true, it appears that it's going to take us hitting rock bottom for anyone to change their minds, and at that point it might not matter.
From that standpoint, I pray I'm wrong.
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All-In [30546]
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I believe you are right, Obed. When does and
Nov 7, 2012, 9:17 AM
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alcoholic start to change? When he usually hits rock bottom.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Yup, that's the key. I don't think people aren't aware of
Nov 7, 2012, 9:19 AM
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the ramifications of their vote, I don't think they care.
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Rock Defender [54]
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This. They are just happy he won.
Nov 7, 2012, 9:20 AM
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They have no idea what that means however.
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I had that exact conversation with a very liberal Obama
Nov 7, 2012, 9:27 AM
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voter the evening before the election. Very cordial and friendly, but very honest.
I said that we can't keep spending at this level, that some social programs - some that benefit the middle class and some that benefit the lower classes - are going to have to go. She said, "Well, Europe does it."
I managed to not give the Lassie head tilt but did say, "Yes, and they are paying the price, are they not?"
She waved her hand like, "Oh, that''s nothing", and went right back to why the govt needs to (fill in the blank). Simply didn't want to think about it. So yes, I do think liberals have a mythical European view, and want to chase it without examining any of the premises.
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Rock Defender [54]
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We won't change until we have to.
Nov 7, 2012, 9:33 AM
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And that will be a very, very ugly thing to go through.
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Oculus Spirit [79708]
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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print mo money!***
Nov 7, 2012, 9:45 AM
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Hall of Famer [24617]
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You could be right. Principles become inconvenient things
Nov 7, 2012, 9:19 AM
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once the fruits of the principles are being enjoyed. You have to lose the benefits to remember where they came from.
I suppose its why people lose weight only to gain it. The principles are great when achieving a goal. Not so much when a little cheating doesn't seem to hurt.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Things today are much better than they were four years ago
Nov 7, 2012, 9:16 AM
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However, things are still not great but the trajectory is good and things are incrementally improving. That is why Obama won.
Romney sounded too much like he was polishing the turd that was the W(t#) platform.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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really shocked you believe that
Nov 7, 2012, 9:18 AM
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just kidding
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Orange Blooded [4098]
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Re: Things today are much better than they were four years ago
Nov 7, 2012, 9:31 AM
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WHERE???????????? not in the USA for sure!!all this idiot has done is add $6 Trl to our debt and add mils of people on welfare rolls... that is what $$$ he used to BUY the votes
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Rock Defender [54]
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Keep drinking that kool-aid, Karl.***
Nov 7, 2012, 9:40 AM
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The margin turned out to be so great that nothing he could
Nov 7, 2012, 9:21 AM
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have done would have mattered
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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how many of those that voted for him do you think...
Nov 7, 2012, 9:23 AM
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actually watched the debates? I would be surprised if it was 50%
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Re: no one in DC the next 4 years is going to make
Nov 7, 2012, 9:28 AM
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any hard choices. it will be more bickering and gridlock. we elect weasels who dont want to do anything for both sides of the aisle. no one in this congress has the guts to propose anything meaningful or build a coalition. we get all the government we pay for.
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Orange Blooded [2425]
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Gridlock is the best we can hope for***
Nov 7, 2012, 9:54 AM
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