bunch of stupid libtards when the truth is 99 percent of the posters on this board could not come close to even being considered for getting admitted into Cal. For all of the FOX criticism of Cal, the fact is it remains ranked as the number one public university in the nation and top ten in the world. Its engineering and science programs rank top ten across the board, and, as highly ranked as its liberal arts are, they still fall slighty behind the science and engineering programs, with the exception of probably psychology and economics. The fact is when Cal comes into the ACC, they will enter at the top of the academic tier. While I question how Cal will help the ACC in athletics, and while I note the geographical challenges and expenses of Cal being part of ACC expansion, there is no doubt they fit and exceed the ACC's scholastic reputation.