Honestly I was wondering at what point the concept of eligibility goes away

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Dec 5, 2023, 11:36 AM

NCAA proposes creation of new subdivision with direct compensation for athletes

NCAA president Charlie Baker on Tuesday proposed the creation of a new subdivision within Division I that would allow the highest-resource schools the ability to compensate athletes directly through a trust fund and direct name, image and likeness (NIL) payments.

The groundbreaking proposal was sent out to Division I members and obtained by The Athletic on Tuesday morning, and it included the following recommendations:

The formation of a new subdivision made up of institutions with the highest resources that can directly compensate athletes through an “enhanced educational trust fund,” which requires the schools that opt into it an investment of at least $30,000 per year per athlete for at least half of the school’s eligible athletes. Schools would have to adhere to Title IX, providing equal monetary opportunities to both female and male athletes.
Schools in the new subdivision could create their own rules separate from the rest of D-I, and those rules would allow them the ability to address policies such as scholarship limits and roster size as well as transfers and NIL.
Any Division I school would be able to enter into an NIL deal with its athletes directly, which is not currently permissible.
Any Division I school would be able to distribute to any athlete funding related to educational benefits without any caps on such compensation.
These recommendations from Baker come amid mounting pressure to allow schools to directly compensate their athletes, and as the NCAA is facing significant legal challenges to its model. In the letter to D-I members, Baker called his proposal a “forward-looking framework” that “gives the educational institutions with the most visibility, the most financial resources and the biggest brands an opportunity to choose to operate with a different set of rules that more accurately reflect their scale and their operating model.”

Schools in both Division I subdivisions would compete against one another for NCAA championships, except for in FBS football, which is run and governed by the College Football Playoff. It’s clear, though Baker doesn’t spell it out, that the highest-resourced schools he is referring to throughout the letter are those in the Power 4 leagues — the SEC, Big Ten, ACC and Big 12. Commissioners of the four schools have recently been lobbying Congress together, seeking help on issues such as NIL that affect their constituents in a far different way than their peers at lower levels of Division I.

The new proposed model “kick-starts a long-overdue conversation among the membership that focuses on the differences that exist between schools, conferences and divisions and how to create more permissive and flexible rules across the NCAA that put student-athletes first,” Baker wrote in the letter. “Colleges and universities need to be more flexible, and the NCAA needs to be more flexible, too.”

Presumably, this would be a subdivision within the FBS, similar to the oft-discussed power-conference split.

Baker ended his letter by asking Division I members for feedback.

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Here's a reprint:

The only way people are going to be truly happy is to eventually morph the college football system into something akin to the NFL system where only on-field results produces the champion. The problem is that would require dividing the current FBS teams into two leagues (at a minimum).

Something like this perhaps:

The top 64 programs from the current Power 5 are put into a Premiere College Football League. The Premiere League is further divided into two conferences - Red Conference and Blue Conference. These Conferences will be further sub-divided into 4 divisions; Red Conference North, South, East and West and a Blue Conference North, South, East, and West. From there the Red and Blue Conferences have a schedule and playoff system that mirrors the NFL structure (NFC and AFC Divisions) with the two Conference champions (Red and Blue) meeting in the Premiere College Championship for the Premiere League Champion.

The remaining FBS college teams not in the Premiere College Football League will form The Senior College Football League with their own Red/Blue conferences and mirror the same conference structure, rules, and playoffs as the Premiere College Football League. They have their own title game and crown their own Senior College Football League Champion.

The twist I would add is that any team in the Premiere league who suffers 2 continuous losing seasons (or whatever metric we want) can be sent down to the Senior League and be replaced by the top winning teams from the Senior league - starting with the most recent Senior League Champion.

If you want to do away with the eye test, rankings or any of that other garbage about the only way to do it is to reduce the top league of college football and institute a system similar to the NFL where there are no committees or anything other than on field results providing the champions...

Moar NIL. New NIL subdivision?

Re: Moar NIL. New NIL subdivision?

I think you have to consider physical growth though.

Maybe if he played in the Big South conference.***

Re: Moar NIL. New NIL subdivision?

Thinking airlines dont want a MEMORIAL Stadium FWIW***

That's the way sports work in the rest of the world

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can anyone post the article text?

It's like $0.82/month brah, but here you go

we keep OpEx lean around here***

So... the NCAA is saying - all you big money schools go ahead and form your own

I think a piece of it is, in theory only

I posted something like this yesterday...

did not see that

Wow, re-reading the article again, I just realized. It isn't just football.

They will have to keep some around unless they get the Feds to repeal

They'll just kill the mens sports like they did with wrestling.

which is why I think it'll fail

hit send too early

I support this AND I would love to see Clemson opt out.

Look at my point directly above this.

Yep -at the smaller schools this will kill everything except football and

At what point will the IRS swoop in and tax all the benefits given to players?

I'd guess sooner rather than later.

Better they learn the hassles of dealing with

Bit by bit there will be diminished enthusiasm and interest in college sports

I'm with you on that last paragraph. This whole season felt that way to me***

Re: I'm with you on that last paragraph. This whole season felt that way to me***

^^^describes the 2023 season for APM including CU games^^^

this seems incongruent with saying you support the proposal

thinking of the NFL, salary cap, and endorsement deals (NIL)

If players become employees, the will unionize.

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And can be fired mid-season***

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