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Re: HC Jonathan Smith is leaving Oregon State for Michigan State
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Nov 25, 2023, 1:37 PM
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Wonder if Ole Dj will hit the portal again
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Re: HC Jonathan Smith is leaving Oregon State for Michigan State
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Nov 25, 2023, 1:42 PM
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If that's our most likely bowl opponent. Gotta think a good number will enter the portal with them being without their coach and a conference.
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Re: HC Jonathan Smith is leaving Oregon State for Michigan State
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Nov 25, 2023, 1:46 PM
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I don’t think you can transfer twice in two years, they were saying thats why Deion won’t be able to leave colorado if he wants to coach his sons.
Maybe it changes if your coach takes another job, unsure
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Re: HC Jonathan Smith is leaving Oregon State for Michigan State
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Nov 25, 2023, 1:39 PM
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Interesting he is leaving his alma mater at Oregon State. It's tough with the Beavers left behind as one of only 2 members of Pac 12 remaining. He is used to being second fiddle in his home state (Oregon vs. Oregon State and now Michigan vs. Michigan State).
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Re: HC Jonathan Smith is leaving Oregon State for Michigan State
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Nov 25, 2023, 1:42 PM
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It is odd, he qbed their best season there too. It would be like if Deshaun or Trevor became our head coach then left for another job. That realignment really screwing oregon state
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Re: HC Jonathan Smith is leaving Oregon State for Michigan State
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Nov 25, 2023, 1:47 PM
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That was the point I was making ... money over loyalty to his alma mater.
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Re: HC Jonathan Smith is leaving Oregon State for Michigan State
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Nov 25, 2023, 1:52 PM
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It's no longer the same job he accepted years ago, due to no fault of his own. I wouldn't hold it against him.
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Re: HC Jonathan Smith is leaving Oregon State for Michigan State
Nov 26, 2023, 9:39 AM
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No doubt about it. The Beavers are getting screwed. I'm sure that they're pretty sore about it, when you're used by 10 members, you would expect them to be.
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I'm sure that's tough for him but Oregon State
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Nov 25, 2023, 1:49 PM
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is about to be a G5 program and Michigan State is in one of the two soon-to-be super conferences.
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This makes me kinda sad
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Nov 25, 2023, 2:11 PM
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Jonathan Smith was an Oregon State alum who was very successful as a QB there. As head coach, he completely turned the program around and now he's gone off to greener pastures (literally, in a couple of ways).
Oregon State athletics got left in the dumpster by the Pac 12's disintegration and I don't blame him for leaving. I expect most the promising players on their roster will hit the transfer portal.
Not a good time for Beavers fans.
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Hate it for OSU. I am an alum and a fan. Left for dead by UO.
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Nov 25, 2023, 2:23 PM
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The recruiting pitch is going to be harder than ever. But…it’s the largest school in the state, military heritage, agricultural base, one of only two land, sea, space, air, and space grant schools in the nation. Awesome college town, updated stadium is small, but fantastic.
I would take the job and we would win, at a fraction of what they will pay to their next HC.
I was a Clemson student during Dabo’s first year as an assistant - would I be lying if I said I was from his coaching tree?
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I'm not sure that Smith is trading up really though
Nov 25, 2023, 3:13 PM
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Michigan State is essentially the Kentucky of the B1G. Good basketball. Football is now questionable, and I think it's uncertain if MSU can make the step to the consistent level of Michigan or PSU or the OSU. No one else has.
Maybe the Mountain West is a good place to rebuild.
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Not a surprise.
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Nov 25, 2023, 2:25 PM
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He had to go somewhere. Beavers are a mountain West Team now.
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Why did he have to go somewhere? Was his $31M contract not enough?
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Nov 25, 2023, 2:34 PM
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He left when they needed him the most - he didn’t “have to do” anything. He was set for life financially and at his alma mater.
He could have stuck it out and helped guide them thru their uncertain future, but he took the easier road.
And they are not in the MWC.
WSU and OSU are in sole control of the PAC - whatever that might be going forward.
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I think he was smart enough to realize all hope is gone
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Nov 25, 2023, 2:46 PM
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The school needed him the most when he went there 5 years ago and gave them a great run before the program becomes completely irrelevant.
He didn't want to take what would have been a demotion.
Lastly, this isn't just about money. He's only 44 years-old and has a long career in front of him.
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Have you ever been to Corvallis or the State of Oregon?
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Nov 25, 2023, 2:55 PM
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They will never be irrelevant.
Excellent facilities and a better stadium than anything in East Lansing. California is full of talent to recruit.
At a young 44 YO, it does speak to his ego and his emotional insecurities about being able to lead them thru an incredibly difficult time and continuing to advance in the coaching profession.
Thank God Dabo doesn’t think that way or he would have left a long time ago to a better conference, bigger “blue blood” program, etc
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You are totally full of it
Nov 25, 2023, 3:46 PM
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Psychoanalyzing a person you haven't even met and know nothing about. That is delusional stuff.
He took a broken program at a very difficult time, completely transformed the culture and won some games in the process.
Unlike you, Beavers fans are thankful for what he did, wish him the best and have no hard feelings toward Jonathan Smith at all.
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What Beavs fans you talking to? I was there 3x this year.
Nov 25, 2023, 3:50 PM
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What do his actions say?
It’s not psychoanalysis, it’s the truth.
The OSU AD has been adamant that they would up his contract and do everything they could to keep him.
What are his players supposed to do - should they enter the Portal and hope for the best? HC JS repeatedly told them during the course of the season, a season in which they found out that they no longer have a conference, do just stay focused on the here and now.
Clearly, HC JS wasn’t. He resigned less than 24 hours after the season ended.
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It's baloney you pulled out of you-know-where
Nov 25, 2023, 7:30 PM
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His "actions" were to leave for a better opportunity, which is what people do. That is all. Your so-called "truth" about him being "emotionally insecure" is nonsense you made up and want to believe.
What else was he going to tell the players? They had no choice but to stay focused and do the best they could this season. Now they have the chance to make their own decisions just like he did.
You are just an ungrateful fan who doesn't appreciate what Jonathan Smith gave to the program as a player and coach. I don't feel bad for the few OSU fans that are like you.
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Im sure glad Dabo has not left for any better opportunities.
Nov 25, 2023, 9:09 PM
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HC JS was a walk-on at OSU. They gave him a chance to succeed and he did so.
Later, OSU gave him a chance to be a HC and he took and was successful.
OSU got left behind in conference realignment, he was promised a new contract and support to guide them…and HC JS left them for an easier path at a middling program in a cash rich conference.
He was a OSU product, one of their greatest players (led them, as a walk-on, to an 11-1 in 2000).
He was making $5M at the school that gave him a chance as player and then again as a coach. He had a $30M contract.
He didn’t go to USC or Michigan or ND or Texas…he went to MSU - the first available life raft in a time of crisis, leaving his players (including DJU), with no course of action.
He left because he didn’t want to, or didn’t think he could, lead them at a time when they didn’t have a conference, didn’t have a schedule, budget was about to be slashed.
Those are facts.
Again, what Beavs fans are you talking to?
I have a degree from OSU and was there 3x this year.
People can be grateful AND be hurt by the way HC JS left the program.
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Re: Have you ever been to Corvallis or the State of Oregon?
Nov 25, 2023, 7:34 PM
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In the same way that Coastal Carolina will never be Clemson, Oregon State will never be Oregon with the conference realignment. It's as simple as that. Nothing else you said counts.
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You do know that they have a Heisman winner, have won the Rose Bowl, & finished
Nov 25, 2023, 9:00 PM
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Top 5 in the country in 2000 (11-1)?
Not quite Coastal…
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It is a really bad situation. I dont know what they will do.
Nov 25, 2023, 4:13 PM
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And it’s about to be open season on every player on OSU and WAZZU…
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Re: HC Jonathan Smith is leaving Oregon State for Michigan State
Nov 25, 2023, 3:10 PM
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Easy coaching decision when Mich State has B1G money and Oregon State lacks a conference.
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Happy for him & sad for Oregon State.***
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Nov 25, 2023, 4:04 PM
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The line that struck me the most
Nov 26, 2023, 9:27 AM
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Was the fact they don’t even have a 2024 schedule. Forget about not having a conference. What are the chances they don’t play at all next season or play 12 away games? It’s just sad.
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