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Germans***
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No. The ship was from Singapore.***
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Germans***
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Re: Moar details emerge. Ship was being piloted by a local crew who
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just saw a video that pointed out
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ship lost power (lights went out) prior to hitting bridge, likely lost steering
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Imma gonna German my own post
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Mar 26, 2024, 10:22 AM
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didn't see below
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Great googly moogly***
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Re: Do they really "steer" those big things, or done by propulsion?***
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Imma gonna claim ignorance on this one, have seen pics of larger boats with a rudder mechanism behind screws, but a boat that big who knows
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Where are the Jounge cargo boat experts?***
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I'm not an expert, but I do have
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a boat and some cargo in my garage. If I can count a kayak and an inflatable, then I have 3 boats in the garage. I have three more boats and more cargo in my metal building.
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Yang Ming?***
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He has a flotilla***
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Having had an inboard direct drive in the past I feel qualified to answer this
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My guess is they were trying to back it down before impact, and there's basically no steering at that point even with a rudder. Who knows where the bow is going to go, add wind and current to the mix it's not surprising it made that turn. I bet they also dropped the anchor that exacerbated the problem.
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All true, plus the fact that it would take
Mar 26, 2024, 11:14 AM
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A half mile to stop that ship.
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Excellent pull***
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Horrible pull***
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My rudder from anudder mudder.***
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Even moar details emerge. Coffee cup found on ship's bridge...
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Guarantee tugboats will be required in the future.***
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My understanding is it's basically a miracle that a lot of these container ships
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are even still operational due to all of the deferred maintenance. They run them hard and put off any and all scheduled maintenance in an effort to reduce costs. I've always found it curious that many of them are running a single screw, I'm no marine engineer but I know guys who go to twins once they get into boats over 26' or so just for redundancy and maneuverability. Yet somehow a skyscraper sized container ship is only running a single engine.
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I struggle with the fact that the skill level of
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Baltimore harbor pilots appears to be identical to that of the average rental pontoon customer coming into the marina hammered at the end of the day.
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Bet someone has already pee'd in a cup and given blood dis mawn.***
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It is kind of odd that they had enough time to radio in a mayday and close the
Mar 26, 2024, 11:32 AM
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bridge, but not enough time to redirect the course away from the bridge pier. Obviously the video only shows a few seconds before impact, but they had to have known well before they got to that point that they had issues.
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Makes you feel real good about the state of our infrastrucure
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Boeing planes ######## the bed, container ships losing power and destroying bridges, trains derailing causing massive chemical spills...What's next? That Tesla did kill that Chinese woman, and I just found out I've got to pull the motor in my boat to replace a plastic fitting. These are all undoubtedly correlated events that we can blame shoddy engineers for.
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Re: Makes you feel real good about the state of our infrastrucure
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Deregulation and profit motive are to blame for the state of rail transport in this country, for better or worse.
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Which points the finger at MBA's
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Deferring maintenance on critical items because you can't see further than the next quarter will lead to these things.
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They'll have another job next year this time.
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What do they care?
Short sided planning for quick profit/increased stock value is killing America. Long range planning has slipped from 10 years, to 4 years, to next quarter.
Soon LRP will be next week.
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Yep... but that's for the last couple of decades at the least.***
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Re: Moar details emerge. Ship was being piloted by a local crew who
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Has confuse, I do.
Is that not a draw bridge? No way out of the harbor without passing under it. Not enough time to raise it, perhaps?
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It's a new draw bridge that was in beta testing. The operator had fallen asleep
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and forgot to raise the bridge. But the horn on the boat didn't work due to Biden-era funding cuts. They tried flashing the high beams but the dude was facing the wrong direction. They hit the bridge in the "soft spot" (think Death Star) in million-to-1 odds, and it took down the whole thing. The boat captain was a DEI hire so it's a little touchy.
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You forgot to add they lost power.
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This was one of the newly mandated ESs (electric ships) and they had battery problems.
FJB!
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I'm reliably told it was the motion of the ocean.***
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Some Twitter folks made a good observation
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There were NO BARRIERS around the bridge supports, unlike many other large span bridges. In fact, they had protective barriers around telephone poles in the bay near the bridge, yet the bridge supports had zero protection.
A bridge with protection around the supports:
The bridge that just fell....no protection:
And finally, the picture showing protection for electrical poles, but again, nothing for the bridge supports.
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Sounds like structural engineers have their work cut out for them now.***
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Not if they read my white paper on marine magnets.***
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Ohtani's translator and P Diddys PR guy were piloting the ship***
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