Have they pretty much given up on academic standards

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Re: Have they pretty much given up on academic standards

Dec 16, 2022, 12:52 PM

Football is a big business now. That's why.

Football generates a whole bunch of $$ for the school at the P5 level. Can't play football and win if your players are ineligible. So now there is a lot more hand-holding going on.

Pretty much across the board at all programs.:

Players get an assigned academic advisor that helps them map out their degree path and helps make sure that they get in the right classes at the right time. His job is also to provide oversight on how they are are doing academically and ensure that those kthat the advisor knows the ones to stay away from.

Freshmen need to live on campus (not necessarily for academic reasons) so they have a bit more oversight and less freedom

Freshmen have mandatory monitored study halls, and tutoring sessions .. These become non mandatory as kids progress in their academic career but can and do become mandatory again if grades start slipping

Freshmen have mandatory sessions to provide note taking and study skills

Freshmen to some point in the year, and those that are struggling academically - have someone that comes around and makes sure that they are in class. Physically checks noses. Some schools also augment this analog method with a mandatory phone app to track if that phone (and the owner) are in a particular classroom at a particular time.

I'm not saying that Clemson does this but, trust me there are programs that are not above putting quasi-dedicated manpower against certain key players who demonstrate an inability to get up and make it to academic related activities.

Beyond that, Tutors for FB players are available and free. So kids that get released from all the mandatory stuff still meet with academic advisor and continue to utilize tutors as needed.

Not all of this was in place years ago. Its a win win. If done ethically, kids go to class, learn study habits and skills. And get an education. The academic side of the house isn't frustrated by FB players not going to class and in general being a laughingstock academically.

With all this being said. Kids still have to put in the time and do the work. And just like the general student population ... some have harder majors and put in more effort than others.

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There was always basically no academic standards. I was at Clemson at the very end of Bowden, beginning of Dabo. The academic requirements were the same as they are now. For admission, it was a sliding scale. If you had at least a 3.5 high school GPA (which most people do since there's now weighting), you could have a 400 SAT (the lowest you can score). If you had an 1100, you could have a 2.0 GPA. The media athletic core was about a 2.65 and an 860. Compare that to the average Clemson student which is around 4.4 weighted and a 1310 SAT.

Once they joined the school, athletes were largely shuttled into 2-3 extremely easy courses, PRTM being the most recognizable. When I was in school, there were football players in my class who were effectively illiterate. That hasn't changed since then.

Note, this only applies to football and basketball players (and not every one). But money-making athletes have always been students in name only. This just memorializes it.

Is this rhetorical?

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