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GR isnt the problem
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Dec 29, 2023, 2:48 PM
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He’s schemed guys open all day down the field, Cade just doesn’t see the field or is incapable of making the throws. Even with pressure on him he has to throw his guys open and know the routes.
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I agree Garbage offensive line
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Cade is waiting to see receiver open
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Dec 29, 2023, 2:53 PM
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And that’s not how football works, especially with a bad OL, a high level QB throws them open and has to with bad OL play. Cade isn’t capable of that and that’s abundantly clear after a year of starts.
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Re: Cade is waiting to see receiver open
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Dec 29, 2023, 3:03 PM
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I agree
Have said all year he’s not seeing the field
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Re: Cade is waiting to see receiver open
Dec 29, 2023, 8:07 PM
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Signed DW. This is correct. Not sure Cade develops this or a better feel for the game. I sure hope so.
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It seemed to me...
Dec 29, 2023, 6:18 PM
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today, at least, that Cade is getting more comfortable in the pocket and moving to areas that open up around the pocket that gave him more time to look for his receivers and resulted in more open running lanes for him than what he'd been doing previously... running sideways and getting chased down because college boys are faster than high school boys.
Especially in the 4th quarter, that gave him options that the "old Cade" wouldn't have had. I hope to see even more improvement before the 1st game in 2024.
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Absolutely not
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Dec 29, 2023, 6:20 PM
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A few plays don’t dissolve an entire game of mediocrity… I am thrilled about the win but Cade was the issue and we should’ve won by 21+
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Re: Absolutely not
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I also feel this is the case for most games this season. It’s the same thing every game—makes some good plays, makes a couple disastrous ones, and misses open receivers.
Hopefully a full off season with GR will help him, but he’s got to make better decisions and make them faster. Too many dudes running around open.
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I could not agree more with this Rendrick***
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Dec 29, 2023, 8:17 PM
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Re: GR isnt the problem
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Dec 29, 2023, 2:49 PM
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He has to get markedly better or he aint it.
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I dont think he can get much better
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The coaches have to hold him accountable to make the throws that are there and if he doesn’t pull the the trigger, bench him for a series.
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Re: I dont think he can get much better
Dec 30, 2023, 11:50 AM
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That would be easier to do if we had anybody pushing him in the QB room. We are now down to an undeveloped 3*, a walk-on legacy, and a GA that has a year of eligibility left if needed. Not looking like we will see great strides in QB play. Having said that, with Luke coaching the OL we may see more explosive running plays which will open the play-action and make it easier on Cade to hit a big play. Even though are RBs have put up decent total numbers, they are Clint causing safeties to creep up because of the lack of home run ability.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
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Dec 29, 2023, 2:54 PM
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This 100%. The o-line is not good but good QB's can overcome this with anticipation and quick desisions
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Re: GR isnt the problem
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Dec 29, 2023, 2:54 PM
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It’s both ppl.
Cade is often too slow to get the ball out on time.
But the OL is a hot piece of ####. No way around that. Cades development has been curtailed greatly by playing behind that group.
A lack of running game is not helpful to cade either.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
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Dec 29, 2023, 2:56 PM
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Speaking of lack of running, why is our second best runner in there so often?
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 2:57 PM
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Agreed DD.
Would take some pressure off of Cade as well
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 7:12 PM
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Lack of thevrunning game is because the staff, not the players.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 8:12 PM
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Part of the running game struggles are due to going away from the read option because Cade cannot run the ball and is terrible at said read option.
I hope he improves but I am leaning towards another DJ situation unfolding before our eyes. At least Cade can hit the short passes I guess.
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I thought DJ was slow at processing
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Dec 29, 2023, 2:56 PM
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Cade has the processing capacity of a TRS computer from 1983
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I cant tell if hes processing and just not trusting himself or the play desig
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Dec 29, 2023, 3:02 PM
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His eyes are down the field he just never pulls the trigger.
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Re: I cant tell if hes processing and just not trusting himself or the play desig
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Dec 29, 2023, 6:27 PM
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I think this is it, by the time he sees it and is ready to sling it the opportunity has past. Ball is late and what could be 15 yac becomes either hit at catch or just a few yac.
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Re: I thought DJ was slow at processing
Dec 29, 2023, 6:09 PM
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I think Cade can process more quickly than the Tandy TRS-80 available at your neighborhood Radio Shack. Not sure how much faster but nevertheless faster.
I wish I could give you more than one Thumbs Up for the TRS reference.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
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Dec 29, 2023, 3:09 PM
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How about the 7 sacks? Definitely doesn’t help Cade.
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At least 4 of them were on him
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Blocking has been bad but he’s had almost 3 seconds to throw on most of them.
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Just did a quick rewatch to figure this out
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Dec 29, 2023, 6:05 PM
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5 were on him, inexcusable, had 3+ seconds and guys open on those…. 3 seconds is an eternity.
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Re: Just did a quick rewatch to figure this out
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Yep. Don’t know how many times I’m yelling “get rid of the ball, Cade!”
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Re: Just did a quick rewatch to figure this out
Dec 29, 2023, 6:16 PM
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5 of 6 were on him? I have a feeling that's not the case but I will go back and rewatch as well. Wish we could get an all 22 type tape. If you're correct that's insane, 3 seconds and he didn't hit a checkdown either when he was throwing them pretty quickly all game. You can tell Cade and the OC don't trust the OL via playcalling and how willing the QB is to throw a 2-5 yard route off the rip.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
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Dec 29, 2023, 6:06 PM
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This. I’m still concerned for next season with Cade.
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Imagine a high end QB in our offense
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Dec 29, 2023, 6:24 PM
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Cade is group of 5, low level power 5 starter at best. Again, thrilled for the win but it was inspire of Cade. He made plays when he had to but the type of talent we need to win a natty is one that makes those plays all game long… the last drive was the rule, not the exception. He’s not that.
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he's just over thinking and not trusting himself
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Dec 29, 2023, 6:10 PM
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he might be over coached (getting caught up in film and analysis paralysis)
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Re: he's just over thinking and not trusting himself
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Are you JK?
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 6:15 PM
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this is it right here
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 6:24 PM
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OL was complete garbage today.
Luke got his work cut out for him. First up is put the 10 lbs per lineman that came off this past summer back on each O lineman.
We r lucky UK was rushin 3 a lot on our last drive.
Cade will be well above average with an above average OL.
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As bad as the o line is
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Dec 29, 2023, 7:01 PM
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Any above average QB can make something happen with 3+ seconds, Cade cannot do that, 5 of his 7 sacks he had that.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 6:25 PM
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Is the solution better OL play or CV pushing Cade for the starting role?
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All reports are CV aint ready
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Dec 29, 2023, 7:17 PM
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That said some guys are gamers and don’t show out at practice. I almost want to see what he is, but it’s a fine line the second you go to him, Cade likely checks out. Is it worth it to see if CV is a gamer and maybe lose Cade? I tend to think so as Cade won’t ever lead us to a natty, that is 100% clear.
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Re: All reports are CV aint ready
Dec 29, 2023, 10:16 PM
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What’s your inside man saying the vibe is around Cade going into offseason?
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 6:25 PM
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Cade does hold the ball way to long and only seems good when he knows pre-snap who he's throwing to. However, GR sometimes forgets how our bread is buttered. On this particular team Mafah has to get touches. Him having only 11 carries (4 of which were TDs) and averaging over 6 yds/carry is mind numbing.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
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Dec 29, 2023, 6:30 PM
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I mean I feel it’s a combination of a lot of stuff. There were some plays there wasn’t anyone open. The series we kicked the field goal to make it 19 to 21. 1st and goal from the 7. Briningstool seemed to be the only player the run a legitimate route. He stepped out back of the end zone and Cade just throw it away over his head. Next play call was a qb draw that didn’t gain any yards. Followed by a sack. Great play calls up to that point. But those 3 plays were awful. I also saw Cade escaping the pocket and miss a open Stellato way down field. Maybe he figured he couldn’t make the throw. Overall he fought his butt off and led us on a game winning 2 min drive.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 6:33 PM
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This is something I believe video games and Patrick mahomes and guys like Watson have ruined football fans with, if a QB gets forced off platform and has to run opposite a guy running free it's not a good decision to try and make that throw for 99% of QBs.
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If Cade throws that ball in an open spot 1.5 seconds sooner its a TD
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Dec 29, 2023, 7:04 PM
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That a the problem, Cade waits until he sees guys wide open, he doesn’t throw anyone open. JB ran the route and had nothing to do because the ball came out so late.
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Re: If Cade throws that ball in an open spot 1.5 seconds sooner its a TD
Dec 30, 2023, 11:55 AM
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100% correct. I was screaming at the TV as soon as I saw Briningstool release on the route. All Cade had to do was lob it out in front of him and he runs under it with nobody near him. Instead he waited on the LB to drop back and close the window.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 7:03 PM
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The first step and absolutely necessary step is better OL play.
We would need a magician and acrobat at QB to win consistently w today’s OL.
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nope
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Dec 29, 2023, 7:08 PM
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Just a very good QB. 3+‘seconds is all a reallly good one needs, Cade couldn’t do that.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 7:17 PM
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We would be in the playoffs with Travis, Daniels, McCorty, and probably a few others.
Cade basically just finished his freshman season, and it certainly showed throughout the season.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 7:33 PM
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Are we over coaching turnovers and taking the gunslinger mentality away? Turnovers are bad but are we tip toeing instead of balling?
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 7:47 PM
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It may be like pissing in the wind but I'm hopeful GR can make something of the kid. Max Duggan is an NFL QB and Klubnik was rated higher than him by Rivals.
He had offers from every big name program out there .
I suppose it's possible they were all wrong and missed in his evaluation but seems unlikely
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Re: Dugan isnt an NFL QB
Dec 29, 2023, 8:12 PM
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For the moment. He was selected by the Chargers who apparently thought he could contribute.
The bigger question is how on God's green earth do so many who do these evaluations
( college and pro ) get it so wrong.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 29, 2023, 8:41 PM
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If closed is our QB next year we will start to be known as WAGD (Waste another good defense). It’s painful to watch, he doesn’t have awareness of the game around him in a way I legit cannot explain.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 30, 2023, 11:45 AM
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Give Cade a break -not like he’s throwing to Tee Higgins, Mike Williams, Hunter Renfro , Amari Rodger’s or even Dion Cain. Let’s see how he does next year with the arrival of Wesco
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 30, 2023, 11:58 AM
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It won’t matter if he doesn’t start throwing the ball on the route release point. The QB should have the ball in the air before the WR is open. Wesco can burn people all day, but if he’s not wide open in the first 10-15 yds Cade ain’t gonna throw it.
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Re: GR isnt the problem
Dec 30, 2023, 1:42 PM
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Bottom line . You gotta have time to throw the d@#n ball. The oline is trash period.
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