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How dumb is my genius idea?
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How dumb is my genius idea?

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Mar 13, 2024, 4:23 PM
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Our 'server room' at the office is a closet.

I'm wondering if I can set up a small fan to blow hot air from the top of our server room at the office into the plenum space above the suspended ceiling?
Fan would be run on a thermostat (so it kicks in at 85degrees or so) and with a backdraft damper that closes when fan is not running.

This would cost me a grand total of about $40. It doesn't matter if it is ugly AF.

This would be set up along with an A/C unit. I'm hoping the A/C unit wouldn't have to run so much with this vent rig (A/C unit puts off a fair amount of it's own heat, plus introduces moisture into a place I don't want it and uses lots of power).



________________________________________________Roof



|Plenum Space 8 feet tall or so|



__damper on top of duct closes when fan is not blowing
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| |______ suspended Ceiling______________________
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|Fan|










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gfy nerd***

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Mar 13, 2024, 4:26 PM
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drunk at the putt putt.


i've only built a couple server rooms

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Mar 13, 2024, 4:29 PM
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and we had dedicated AC units for them.

this sounds like something FBCoachSC® would rig up

business that bad you can't cool it properly? how long has it been running like this?

our resident IT guy could prolly help Ineligible user

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Correct, this is 100% FBC solution. We have an AC unit and it is needed

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Mar 13, 2024, 4:44 PM
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in the summertime. I’m mostly wondering if this would keep it from having to run all year.

We won’t be in this space for more than 24 more months so anything is temporary at this point.

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Just opened the window for Bandito.***

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Mar 13, 2024, 5:59 PM
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How hot is the room getting and what do you have in there?....

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Mar 13, 2024, 6:32 PM
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Not to be unkind, but your plan doesn't make a lot of sense.

If you really just want air circulation, then put a bathroom vent fan in there and put a vent in the door so air can circulate.

If you just have switches, routers, and maybe a PC, don't worry about doing much more.

If you really have servers, then put a dedicated AC in there...like a small mini-split system for a few $1000.

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Username checks TF out...


Mar 13, 2024, 10:29 PM
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We are in between sizes...a server, a couple PCs, a few NAS, switch rack, phone servers, etc.

Bathroom vent fan (ish) is exactly what I am going for. I just don't think I have room for that in this weird space - it's a triangular shaped closet and not a lot of clear ceiling tiles, not sure I could fit a bathroom fan in there.

And we do have an AC unit...or will as soon as the replacement arrives next week. I had struggles with the last one that died last fall (it would occasionally leak water on the floor) and it put off a fair amount of heat. I'm thinking of this fan rig to basically supplement the AC by venting out the hot air in the shoulder months.

Not sure it's worth it though.

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Just remove one panel in the ceiling grid. A border tile would do it.***


Mar 13, 2024, 10:48 PM
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I did that, and it got us through the last few months. But in a few weeks it


Mar 13, 2024, 10:59 PM
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is going to be hot AF in the plenum space.

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DOWATM8?***


Mar 13, 2024, 11:24 PM
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Just seeing this...

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Mar 14, 2024, 5:21 PM
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As I've been "enjoying" some quality time in a data center for the last few weeks myself. It's been at least 8 years since I was behind a server console for any amount of time. Lets just say this..it takes a while to catch back up.

You didn't say if you are using plenum A/C, or if its ducted, but I'm assuming it's ducted.

Anyway, your idea will work, but you might be better separating the front of the rack from the back with partitions, and blowing the hot air toward the open ceiling in the back. Most, if not all, servers and equipment, if they are rack mounted, suck in cool air in the front, and blow out hot air in the back. If you have "in-air" separated from "out-air", you don't care how hot it is in the back (I mean to an extent), hence the term "hot aisle/cold aisle" when referring to datacenters.

If you can make your own "hot aisle/cold aisle" setup its a lot more efficient than trying to cool ALL the air in server room (or closet).

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Good info, thanks. I have a fan circulating air to avoid hot spots but hadnt


Mar 14, 2024, 8:30 PM
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considered the hot/cool side of the rack. When I am back in the closet (!) I’ll see if I can utilize that to my advantage

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