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FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking
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FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 2:57 PM

 
CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking

A Fox Sports analyst says an overrated SEC is benefiting Clemson in the College Football Playoff rankings. The Tigers came in at No. 4 this week, ahead of Oklah Read Update »


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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 3:03 PM

Isn't this the same guy that bitched and moaned about us being ranked above Washington all of las year?

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Brad Brownell: more losses than any other coach in school history.


Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 3:27 PM

That guy is a tool cowherd learned his lesson last year in calling us overrated that's why he didn't chime in he said he is ok with clemson at 4 haha! But like dude come on you kept saying they propping up Miss st and LSU to help Clemson's resume, we only played Auburn we got nothing to do with Miss st or LSU that's more bama and Georgia yet he kept saying clemson. Yea OU has a good offense but how many times have we seen these gun slinger teams come in and get man handled in the trenches and OU is a poster team of that! We beat them down first playoff game we played they got beat down in the 08 title by a bigger Florida. OU always blows games against the big boys. When they play a defense they will hit a buzz saw TCU will be the best defense they will play all year I hope they slap OU around!

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Not to mention that...


Nov 9, 2017, 3:54 PM

OKLA, for its 8.5 ypc stat, has played absolutely no one with a pulse... and yes, I include O310 as a team without a pulse. If O310 has to play a real football team, they fold like a cheap wallet.

Go pedal it elsewhere, Joel... you said last year that Clemson, the National Champions, shouldn't be in the top 4.

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 8:12 PM [ in reply to Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking ]

He said the same thing last year and Ohio State couldn't score 1 point.

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Boy we sure have a big hip pocket!


Nov 9, 2017, 3:06 PM

First Swoffy, now EZPN and the whole CFPC are in there. Wow!

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The definition of awesome!


Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 3:07 PM

Can we play Oklahomer right now? Shut this crap down right now. Does he not recall past meetings of the two respective teams? We could just play the defense. That would do it.

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 10, 2017, 12:10 AM

Great point! I also find it interesting that he speaks very highly of Oklahoma’s offense, yet fails to mention their defense. Oh, wait...none exists.

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Nov 9, 2017, 3:13 PM



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Yep. This guy is a pure genius.


Nov 9, 2017, 3:14 PM

From last week 11/1/17:
"Ohio State is one of the top two best teams in the country. Hands down."
https://www.landof10.com/ohio-state/ohio-state-college-football-playoff-cfp-odds

um. ok.
And he was so dead on for this one as well (he's 1 for 5):
https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/2017-nfl-draft-top-quarterback-deshone-kizer-deshaun-watson-mitch-trabisky-nfl-draft-joel-klatt-031417

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Re: Yep. This guy is a pure genius.


Nov 9, 2017, 3:35 PM

Haha the first article about Ohio st is hilarious, he pretty much was complete opposite to this week, he said OU was overrated and didn't deserve to be ahead of OSU or in the top 4. This guy is a idiot seems every week the CFPC has a agenda to keep a team down. Dude has no clue

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We should name this asso Maytag. He's more wishy-washy


Nov 9, 2017, 3:51 PM

than a washing machine.

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Clemson does dedicate too much OOC games to the SEC


Nov 9, 2017, 3:22 PM

Already have the dirt peckers every year.

Should branch out and get some Big10 action on future schedules.

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Re: Clemson does dedicate too much OOC games to the SEC


Nov 9, 2017, 4:29 PM

I would love to see the Tigers pulverizing some of the big10 chumps.

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 3:23 PM

Playing for Colorado in the Big 12 allows Klatt to be much more objective than those "coaches down south".

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We should send the POC and the SEC a thankyou card.


Nov 9, 2017, 3:24 PM

The present polls are not worth harsh words and tears for this will work itself out. All the whatif conversations worth nothing.

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 3:30 PM

Why is everything these days a conspiracy? I mean EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. Have we become so soft in society that we've willfully succombed to the lie that everyone is against us all the time? Good grief!

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 3:34 PM

The bias is too obvious too ignore. I mean when you're featuring a guy that wrote a book titled "SEC is King" on every show.....

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 3:31 PM

Hate to say it but he's spot on. I think we would beat Oklahoma but based on resume they should be in there.

College football is a beauty contest, always has been, and now maybe even more so....Look at the way they railed on Wisconsin for the majority of the show Tuesday night while ignoring that Alabama's resume is only slightly better.

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Nov 9, 2017, 3:35 PM



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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 3:47 PM

Don't cry about it man. It's ok to admit that Oklahoma's resume is a tad better. We win out we're in....

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Injury


Nov 9, 2017, 7:10 PM [ in reply to Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking ]

Playoff committee said they factored in KB injury and then getting knocked out of game, we lost by one point on the road

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 10, 2017, 7:54 AM [ in reply to Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking ]

You should probably lay off the crack pipe.

Clemson's SOS and SOR are both ranked above OU. Clemson has 3 ranked wins pet current poll (4 if looking at rankings when played), OU has 2. 7 of Clemson's 8 wins have been against teams with winning records, OU only has 2. The only thing better on their resume is a better loss, though ours had a QB who entered injured (low ankle sprain) and then was out before Halftime. 1 thing does not trump 3.

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 10, 2017, 8:50 AM

I don't know what SOS rankings you're looking at pal but these have Oklahoma's schedule ranked 2nd.....

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other

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Oklahoma’s ‘big win’ is 0-31-O State...


Nov 9, 2017, 8:01 PM [ in reply to Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking ]

.... but there is no bias for the Big 10, right?

Penn State... Michigan... BIG losers, too...

So, tell me, what are their signature wins?

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Strength of schedule says otherwise


Nov 10, 2017, 1:30 AM [ in reply to Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking ]

https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings

1. FSU
2. BC
3. Clemson
17. Oklahoma

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So we're over rated by one spot in his mind???


Nov 9, 2017, 3:33 PM

I don't think Auburn is top-10. We'll see this weekend how worthy they are. I have no issue with us being out of the top-4 right now. But if we win out, we absolutely deserve to be in.

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Well We're Tired Of Oklahoma. Why Prop Them?


Nov 9, 2017, 3:38 PM

Oklahoma was propped each time Clemson played Oklahoma in the bowl games dating back to the 80's. .....And each time Clemson has beat the stew out of Oklahoma.

Why can't Klatt take that and accept it.
Though he has somewhat of a point about the SEC. So having said that he needs to take it up with ESPN and the SEC.

Clemson shouldn't be mentioned in his favortisms to Oklahoma and the Big 12......because as of recent years Clemson has knocked out all their flagship darlings when we were deserving or not.

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Re: Well We're Tired Of Oklahoma. Why Prop Them?


Nov 9, 2017, 3:48 PM

Recent years have nothing to do with it. Resume to date Oklahoma's is better. It's ok guys....

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Re: Well We're Tired Of Oklahoma. Why Prop Them?


Nov 9, 2017, 3:54 PM

Maybe the fact that they don’t play defense has something to do with how much the committee doesn’t trust them. They have given up a ton of points, especially recently. And not just to Oklahoma State.

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Re: Well We're Tired Of Oklahoma. Why Prop Them?


Nov 9, 2017, 4:03 PM [ in reply to Re: Well We're Tired Of Oklahoma. Why Prop Them? ]

It does have something to do with it...Oklahoma has looked really great against some really mediocre teams. But yeah it will play itself out, a one loss Big 12 or ACC champ will be in and settle it on the field.

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 3:38 PM

L O L

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What a dummy***


Nov 9, 2017, 3:46 PM



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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 3:49 PM

Maybe Clemson gets the nod because of the last to head to head games with Oklahoma. Wins by 34 and 20 points!!

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LOL...Fox Sports analyst !!!


Nov 9, 2017, 3:51 PM

Of course he's going to day that. Doesn't Fox Sports have TV deals with both the Big 10 and Big XII?

NO team with a defense as bad as Oklahoma's deserves to be ranked ahead of ANY of the current top four teams in the CFP poll.

That Ohio State win that has been propping-up the Oklahoma resume isn't looking quite as impressive as it did a few weeks ago.

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 3:58 PM

maybe Clemson gets the nod because they have played in the last 2 national championship games; maybe it because we are the defending National Champs; maybe its because we have beat every ranked team we have played this season, several in hostile territory; maybe ?

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 3:58 PM

Is it bias that the Big 10 got outscored 69-0 in its last 2 semifinal games, Washington lost 24-7, Oklahoma with Superman Baker Mayfield lost 37-17?
Why should we believe Big 12, Big 10, or Pac 10 will field a competitive team??
Tell me Who's overrated again?

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Nov 9, 2017, 4:06 PM

On top of that this idiot is spouting Michigan who got beat by a crappy SEC team (Florida) without half their starting line-up.

The big 10 has Wisc who played no one and Penn St who lost two. They suck.

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 8:11 PM

Michigan beat Florida in the season opener. Think Big 10 is overrated just correcting that error tho Florida was winning at half.

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OK is a joke vs real D 2014 (40-6) 2015 (37-17)


Nov 9, 2017, 4:03 PM

2014 Clemson Win 40-6 OK Scoreless until late garbage time field goals.
2015 Clemson win 37-17 OK scoreless in the 2nd half.

Give me a break!

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Re: OK is a joke vs real D 2014 (40-6) 2015 (37-17)


Nov 9, 2017, 4:31 PM

And OU's defense is not even as good as it was two years ago.

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 4:46 PM

So he (a Fox Sports) analyst is criticizing the ESPN/SEC connection and says that is why Clemson is overrated. Instead he (the Fox analyst) says that OU (televised by Fox Sports) should be ranked above Clemson. Yep makes perfect sense to me.

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Biggest mover last week in playoff polls?...


Nov 9, 2017, 4:48 PM

Michigan State. They jumped 12 spots.
Before they lost, Iowa State had jumped way up the previous week.
While there are times that the 'sec bias' is in effect from a promotional standpoint, I'm not sure this week's playoff poll reflects that.

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Re: Biggest mover last week in playoff polls?...


Nov 9, 2017, 4:57 PM

Don't hate on the Cyclones, lots of Top 15 teams have lost to Texas and West Virginia...

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I knew it was going to be Klatt. I don't say this often, but he really does


Nov 9, 2017, 7:20 PM

seem to have something against us. Maybe he hates southeast football in general, but he's trashed us numerous times over the last 2-3 years.

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 7:24 PM

What a moron! Geez, my IQ dropped just reading his stupid theory.

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Nov 9, 2017, 8:03 PM



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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 9, 2017, 8:14 PM

Fox needs to stick to it's crappy NFL games.

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 10, 2017, 10:42 AM

Yeah, not a fan of watching sports on Fox- just the corniest graphics and music.

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Butt hurt Big12 guy.


Nov 9, 2017, 8:25 PM

We would beat OU up at the line of scrimmage AGAIN.

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It's gotta be good for something***


Nov 10, 2017, 12:33 AM



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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 10, 2017, 7:33 AM

When I click on this a get a black screen. What's up B-Meist?

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Re: FB Update: CFB analyst says SEC bias boosts Clemson Playoff ranking


Nov 10, 2017, 9:00 AM

Where was that great Sooner offense when they played Iowa State ? Truth be told and being impartial , Clemson has a balanced football team and Oklahoma is atrocious on the defensive side .
I wouldn't have any reason to complain outside of the sentiment that Klatt views as our being given the 4th spot because the committee " props up the SEC " .


Garbage .

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DB23


Does anybody like Joel Klatt?


Nov 10, 2017, 10:41 AM

So, on one hand you say the SEC is down, so Clemson's win vs. Auburn is weak, then on the other hand, you say Bama and UGA are the best in the country because they ran roughshod through that same down SEC?

What a Klown.

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So who would be at #4 over Clemson?


Nov 11, 2017, 3:54 AM

Mind you they have 3 wins over top 25 opponents (most in CFB), 6 wins over opponents with winning records (most in CFB). One may mention the Syracuse loss.

What about Oklahoma? Oklahoma beat, surprise, an extremely overrated Ohio State and survived a shootout with Ok St. Plus, Oklahoma CAN NOT play defense. S&P ranks their defense at 115th out of 130 teams. No CFB champion in the last decade has had a defense ranked lower than 17th (Auburn 2010). Also, remember the last time Clemson played Oklahoma? Oklahoma was ran out of the building in back to back seasons.

TCU? Only 1 win over a top 25 opponent. Highly interested in what Oklahoma will do when playing a team that plays defense.

Miami? Again, only 1 win over a ranked opponent. Pending nothing short of mayhem, Clemson will see them in the ACCCG and all will play out on the field.


Wisconsin? Zero ranked wins, weak conference.

UCF. Zero ranked wins, plays nobody. See a pattern forming here?

The committee got it right except 1 team. Alabama. 1 win over a ranked opponent, please don't even mention 3-5 FSU. Bama is ranked highly on pedigree alone. Don't be surprised if Auburn upsets them come Iron Bowl time or UGA in the SECCG. Plus Bama has a big problem with the injury bug right now.?

The committee has shown since its inception that they value the following: a strong schedule, conference championships, strong wins > bad losses. Clemson is the best 1 loss team in the country off of the aforementioned criteria and deserves the #4 spot.




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