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Dabo Swinney is killing the program he built…
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Dabo Swinney is killing the program he built…


Dec 30, 2022, 11:39 PM

And we’re watching it happen right before our eyes. We have an OC and DC that no other top tier program would remotely consider hiring, and Dabo has surrounded himself with a bunch of yes men. Afraid to challenge his bad decisions and too grateful for the opportunity too tell him the truth. This young AD has one hell of a task on his hands. He has to convince Dabo Swinney to embrace change, and that is mission impossible.

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:40 PM

We just have to hope the boosters and Neff will put some pressure on him. Swinney's ego is out of control.

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:42 PM

Can't wait to hear the BS he spews in the postgame presser.

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What is there to "BS" about??


Dec 31, 2022, 12:30 AM

Look, I get it we're all ticked off, but some of you dudes are out of your minds trying to find ways to hang the coaches.

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According to many people here, Dabo runs the university


Dec 30, 2022, 11:54 PM [ in reply to Re: Dabo Swinney is killing the program he built… ]

and no one is allowed to question him.

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Ah yes. Ms. Keller is full of glee with a football loss.


Dec 31, 2022, 12:31 AM

But let's be real here.. if Dabo was in charge your fantasy lover would have been fired years ago.

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Re: Ah yes. Ms. Keller is full of glee with a football loss.


Dec 31, 2022, 12:33 AM

If Dabo was the AD he would have fired Brownell and hired one of his buddies to coach the basketball team. I'm not sure which one is worse.

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Re: According to many people here, Dabo runs the university


Dec 31, 2022, 10:44 AM [ in reply to According to many people here, Dabo runs the university ]

Judge,

Reminds me of someone else . . .

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:34 AM [ in reply to Re: Dabo Swinney is killing the program he built… ]

You're stupid.

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Jan 1, 2023, 11:44 AM [ in reply to Re: Dabo Swinney is killing the program he built… ]

Dabos ego is out of control? Most of the posters on this site know little about football, even less about coaching and recruiting...ego my as*...this cat has brought you ungrateful sissies 2 natties and more ACC championships than you can count and you talk about him killing something...are there issues...maybe...let's let him fix them or you can hire Beamer or Dumbo Fishnet or maybe Norvell...get a cold beer, take a Xanax and wait for that new coach you dream of!

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:42 PM

Yep.

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:43 PM

Hear, Hear! Hire real coaches

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:45 PM

Never thought the coach that took us to the top not once but twice would be the same to kick us off the top?

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:47 PM

We win too many games in the ACC with talent on the field for meaningful change to happen.

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:56 PM

yep

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:50 PM

Put down the booze. You look silly.

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I haven’t touched the Woodford Reserve tonight


Dec 30, 2022, 11:51 PM

This was a sober, and somewhat sad thought.

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:50 PM

Y’all have really short memories. Dabo took you to places you’ve never been. You were a mediocre program before Dabo, the exception being Danny Ford, who cheated. No one gives Clemson credit for that championship and for good reason. So get over yourselves or go back to mediocrity.

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And who the #### are you?***


Dec 30, 2022, 11:52 PM



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Dec 31, 2022, 12:04 AM [ in reply to Re: Dabo Swinney is killing the program he built… ]

I think the championship is still listed with all the outlets that gave it out. Sorry you're still butthurt over something that happened 40 years ago.

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Shut up you lying bullzhitter ...


Dec 31, 2022, 12:42 AM [ in reply to Re: Dabo Swinney is killing the program he built… ]

Ford didn't cheat. Clemson gets universal credit for that championship.

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:51 PM

Y’all have really short memories. Dabo took you to places you’ve never been. You were a mediocre program before Dabo, the exception being Danny Ford, who cheated. No one gives Clemson credit for that championship and for good reason. So get over yourselves or go back to mediocrity.

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:20 AM

Girl I used to bang did too. It was all good until I almost went to a place I’ve never been, jail! F off

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Re: Dabo Swinney is killing the program he built…


Dec 30, 2022, 11:51 PM

Y’all have really short memories. Dabo took you to places you’ve never been. You were a mediocre program before Dabo, the exception being Danny Ford, who cheated. No one gives Clemson credit for that championship and for good reason. So get over yourselves or go back to mediocrity.

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Jan 1, 2023, 11:38 AM

It's a coot parrot!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:54 PM

Demote Streeter and Goodwin. Bring in some real coaching. Go to portal, get some big offensive linemen and some decent wide receivers.

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Some folks are truly pathetic.


Dec 31, 2022, 12:17 AM

We had almost 500 yards of offense. Nothing Streeter did or didn't do caused us to lose this game.

Why do some people just have to fire someone after every loss?

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:56 AM

Because they are idiots

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Dec 31, 2022, 11:13 AM [ in reply to Some folks are truly pathetic. ]

Can I ask why he gets the credit for getting to the redzone but none of the blame for not scoring?

I don’t want to hear anything about player execution, that’s on the coaches as well.

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:54 PM

100% true. sickening thing is all this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better because Dabo's ego is off the chart. he sees zero wrong about his decisions. its going to take years of poor results before the AD will even be able to get it going back in the right direction.

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:03 AM

Calm down. 99% off all other fans would be ecstatic to have what we’ve had in the past several years. The way he runs his program makes me proud to be a Clemson grad, win or lose. If you don’t like the show, change the channel.

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:03 AM [ in reply to Re: Dabo Swinney is killing the program he built… ]

Calm down. 99% off all other fans would be ecstatic to have what we’ve had in the past several years. The way he runs his program makes me proud to be a Clemson grad, win or lose. If you don’t like the show, change the channel.

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:57 PM

Agree, we were outcoached once again tonight. Our guys dont develope on schedule, and we dont address longstanding issues like OL missing blocks and Corners getting beat.

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What an idiot.


Dec 31, 2022, 12:19 AM

Coaching was NOT the difference in this game.

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Re: What an idiot.


Dec 31, 2022, 11:14 AM

lol yes it was. What was it then?

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:57 PM

This is bad.

And sadly, Dabo will rationalize it. This program has regressed so much. We are no longer a top 10 team. We probably won’t be picked to win the ACC next year either.

Dabo built it and now he feels determined to ruin it.

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What would he need to "rationalize"


Dec 31, 2022, 12:23 AM

This site is bizarre. We lost the game. The primary reasons had to do with coaching.

We won every single offensive stat and held Tennessee to under 400 yards. The secondary breakdowns were most concerning, and we had a true freshman QB look exactly like that at some key moments. What is there to "rationalize"?

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Dec 31, 2022, 11:15 AM

This isn’t about a single game. This is going on 4 years now.

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There is some truth to that…


Dec 31, 2022, 12:14 AM

Clements is a weak leader. All hat. No cattle.

He lets Dabo do what he wants and looks for the next camera to mug in front of.

The Barker/TD administration had Dabo in check in a healthy, collaborative way. They loved Dabo but they ran the university and they held everyone accountable. Good luck getting that from a phony like Clements.

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I am a bitter and angry man.


Clements is a nice guy but Barker was a better president IMO.***


Dec 31, 2022, 12:21 AM



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Re: Clements is a nice guy but Barker was a better president IMO.***


Dec 31, 2022, 12:09 PM

No way! Barker spent all of his time and money trying to bribe publications into putting Clemson into the top 25 of colleges and universities. Clements has tried to make it a better institution in a much more difficult woke environment.

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There is some truth to that…


Dec 31, 2022, 12:14 AM

Clements is a weak leader. All hat. No cattle.

He lets Dabo do what he wants and looks for the next camera to mug in front of.

The Barker/TD administration had Dabo in check in a healthy, collaborative way. They loved Dabo but they ran the university and they held everyone accountable. Good luck getting that from a phony like Clements.

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I am a bitter and angry man.


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Dec 31, 2022, 12:10 PM

I guess you rally believe that ..... but you are incorrect.

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What's wrong with you? We held them to 375 yds to our 100 plays and nearly 500 yards.


Dec 31, 2022, 12:15 AM

We didn't lose this game because of anything the coordinators did or didn't do.

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how many points are yards worth?***


Dec 31, 2022, 12:19 AM



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Dec 31, 2022, 12:25 AM

Facts.


Truth is, Dabo isn't hungry to prove himself anymore. He hires his friends and is satisfied with 10 wins and acc titles

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:11 PM

Neither truth nor fact!


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Did we watch the same game?


Dec 31, 2022, 12:28 AM [ in reply to how many points are yards worth?*** ]

Of course they scored more points. But that has nothing to do with what you replied to.

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Re: Did we watch the same game?


Dec 31, 2022, 12:35 AM

You mentioned yards, he responded to that. Try taking off your orange glasses so you can read what people write.

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All orange the Stat that matters is the scoreboard


Dec 31, 2022, 12:47 AM [ in reply to What's wrong with you? We held them to 375 yds to our 100 plays and nearly 500 yards. ]

We were manhandled by a team without their major weapons. It was an embarrassing loss.

Yes we moved the ball, but the red zone offense was atrocious.

That's coaching.

Tennessee has a terrible defense and a great offense that lost all it's weapons and still manhandled our so called NFL defense. So I think we have a right to be upset.

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Dec 31, 2022, 11:16 AM [ in reply to What's wrong with you? We held them to 375 yds to our 100 plays and nearly 500 yards. ]

What was the problem then? Are we going to blame the players that were recruited by Dabo’s staff?

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:18 AM

Don’t worry, Jesus loves him. Some of you that know Jesus better than me get him on the phone and let him know what’s happening

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:24 AM

Jesus love us all, but he don’t call plays. Throw it to 0.

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:25 AM [ in reply to Re: Dabo Swinney is killing the program he built… ]

Jesus love us all, but he don’t call plays. Throw it to 0.

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:20 AM

Very true

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:23 AM

39 upvotes + the OP means at least 40 of you should be withdrawing from
IPTAY and putting your money where your mouth is.

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:47 AM

If you have ever done any reading on the rise and fall of empires, one of the root causes of this is the idea that one becomes too big to fail and that idea is born out of pride. Once you've lost your humility you set yourself on course for a major fall and throughout history, this has repeated itself time and time again.

Any of this sound familiar?

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:51 AM

Hubris. Pride is something we all have, hubris is a pride tantamount to god himself; generally held by an outwardly religious person that claims to project the glory on some imaginary invisible being all the while absorbing the glory himself. See Dabo. He envoked God last week, God said F off this week! You can’t go a praising god for your wins and not blame him for your losses, unless you’re a hypocrite of the magnitude of Dabo. He will spin this in a way and have you evangelicals donating and a praising the lord for the loss next week

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:19 PM

You have zero idea what you are talking about and like many non-believers you distort and twist Dabo's and God's words. Dzbo will be the first to say that his joy and happiness has nothing to do with temporary circumstances where something good happens to you. He praises God for the opportunities he has been given, but not the outcome of these opportunities. He gives God the glory win or lose.

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Dec 31, 2022, 12:18 PM

Time to find another team. Who you kicking.

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Jan 1, 2023, 11:32 AM

He's not "killing" it, but he has moved the bar back to ACC Champs. It's a shame because we proved with the right effort and right people we could compete for a Natty every year. It's hard to move back. Most fans don't want to, but some fans are ok with it and Dabo is too. Appearances are that he's ok with the sacrifice as long as his public image looks good, and friends/family are given rewards through his position of power. He's not the first person of power to go down this path. How many Senators started their career with great intention only to become beholden to the Russia's and the Exxon's and the gun manufacturers?

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Jan 1, 2023, 11:38 AM

10-3. Not 6-6, 8-4, etc. Get a grip Sally.

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Jan 1, 2023, 12:17 PM

Wow..... The people who really believe they know what is going on is truly unreal. It's hilarious. Dabo didn't hire his friends he hired people that have been in this system for years. When Dabo hired CM and BV he wasn't looking for coaches he was looking for successful systems. Which is why he said this isn't CM's offense but Clemson's offense and that wasn't BV's defense but Clemson's defense. Then he hired people under the coaches that did nothing but learn those systems in and out. He told JS and TE to follow every step CM made bc he knew CM wanted to be a head coach. WG was BV's right hand man and was the guy charged with learning that system. Of course those guys are going to put there own twist on it. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Obviously WG isn't as aggressive as BV and I do believe that is the difference we saw this year. He implemented a more bend don't break scheme. I do believe he needs to be more aggressive next year and press the issue. Streeter was tasked with a no win situation. DJ knew the offense in and out but DJ just isn't the QB the coaches thought and he wasn't built for this offense. Talk to anyone that saw any practice they will tell you Cade was NOT ready to take over. So you are coming off a so called down year with the same QB and a freshmen which totally handcuffed the system. I believe what you saw in the OB is what Streeter wants to be. He wans to go back to that CM's HUNH offense. This off season is HUGE for Cade. Obviously the receivers have been bad but I really like Williams and hopefully Randall will be fully healthy. Ngata made strides late if he comes back and Cole Turner has only played football for 3 years now. You got to hope the freshmen one of them are ready or Stellato [sp] is healthy. I like the defense especially the freshmen coming in to go along with Page, Capehart and those guys. Back to my point, Dabo believes in what he has done and what he is doing. It's a proven method that yields results so yeah he probably is going to stick with it. As far as his religious beliefs he's been this way his whole life so the fact that it's only a problem when Clemson loses says more about you guys than him. Something has changed through the years though and it's this fanbase. This fanbase well some in this base have become entitled ######. There is a difference in letting football run your life and using football as a foundation for life which I believe is the reason why some fans bash Dabo. Football isn't the most important thing to Dabo and to those few fans they just can't stand it. I'd probably be a miserable SOB as well if what other people I have no control over on a football field ruled my life. Remember these coaches and players are human beings as well. They make mistakes, they're not perfect and even sometimes they lose a football game.

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Jan 1, 2023, 12:21 PM

Well……bye

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