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Clemsons problem in bball is recruiting
Jan 26, 2014, 11:35 PM
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We haven't had a solid recruiting class yet with BB. That was the only thing that I questioned when he was hired. I think he's a really good coach and can field competitive teams with scrubs but when you have only one player that's any good you can't be a factor in the acc over the course of a season. Purnell was always able to recruit and that's why we competed in the top 4 of our league.... But I'll just say it, coaching in front of Dan Rad and a top ten football coach couldn't feel good tonight. I hate it for him but if we don't turn it around this yr it may the curtain call season for BB.
You have to be a recruiter to win at clemson. Unfortunately those types don't last long here but... You can't get blown out by that team like that...that Tar Heel squad sux, we got no players other than kj with any confidence or clue.
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Orange Blooded [2227]
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That is evident when you see Josh Smith starting
Jan 26, 2014, 11:49 PM
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Poor kid does the best he can be can't hang in ACC play.
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Re: That is evident when you see Josh Smith starting
Jan 27, 2014, 12:07 AM
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No one in a long time has recruited really well at clemson. We are what we are a 3 star type school. Clemson gets good when a local stud comes which is rare and we just find a gym.
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Orange Blooded [2096]
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I'll pile on
Jan 27, 2014, 12:08 AM
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I've never seen a starting lineup that is so raw from top to bottom. I thought in recruiting videos seen here some of these guys had some game? Don't believe the hype. This is too much like Shyatt level material here. I don't think Rad will have time for his 10 year plan.
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Sigh, you guys don't get basketball recruiting
Jan 27, 2014, 12:33 AM
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Brownell essentially had to rebuild the entire roster. In basketball, you usually take 3-4 players a year and add them to what you have. After his first season Brownell had to totally rebuild the roster, with the exceptions of Booker and Jennings. When you see 2 consecutive 5 man recruiting classes you have essentially turned over your entire roster in 2 years. That's why you're seeing all of these "raw" players on the court. Normally some of these guys either wouldn't be at Clemson, or they would be sitting on the bench redshirting. In the future, Brownell will be able to have some patience in developing players because Clemson is a team that has to develop players. Now he just has to throw them on the floor in a trial by fire situation because, well, who else is he going to play. Starting with this incoming class Brownell has been able to selectively recruit and spend time chasing only a few players. This has paid dividends with his first top 100 and a player in Devoe who, from all accounts, is a legit scorer. You will probably see an even better class in 2015, as he has a few top 100 type players on the line. Patience, is a virtue when you have to turn your entire roster over in 2 years.
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Re: Sigh, you guys don't get basketball recruiting
Jan 27, 2014, 2:26 AM
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How long do you give him without accomplishing anything of note, Drew? It has been an awful long time since our win in the Big Dance with the only good players Purnell left behind. I think most people who follow Clemson basketball knew that OP left the cupboard pretty #### bare when he left. I think most people here believe that Brownell is a really good coach. But, unfortunately, I think people are losing patience with him because it seems like we always hear the same kinds of things about how we have recruits coming in who are going to actually be able to score points, yet no points ever materialize from these guys.
Last year, for example, all year long everyone was to excuse our program because Blossomgame and Coleman weren't playing for us. They were going to come in this year and have a huge impact. Now, over halfway through the season, Coleman has been run off and Blossomgame doesn't get significant playing time. We have no shooters, and we have just gotten embarrassed....again. This time by a UNC squad that most of us didn't expect to beat, but most of us didn't think would smash our faces in either.
I think there are some definite Brownell haters on here. I am not one of them. I really hope this new recruiting class comes in and we find a way to score some #### points, but I am definitely frustrated with the product that has been put on the court lately. Sure, we aren't good enough to beat decent teams in the ACC, especially on the road, but we have been getting embarrassed out there.
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Re: Sigh, you guys don't get basketball recruiting
Jan 27, 2014, 3:49 AM
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Imo,bb probably has one more year to do something. What he is recruiting is decent for the conference he came from, not the acc.
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Re: Re: Sigh, you guys don't get basketball recruiting
Jan 27, 2014, 7:32 AM
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Clemson Is the wake of basketball. It is gonna take a coach a long time. People need to chill. It is not like football where the foudation has been laid.
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I agree to an extent
Jan 27, 2014, 8:51 AM
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OP came in with a certain type system that attracted some decent talent and had some great seasons. I think Brownell is a lot better X's and O's guy but in College you have to recruit. I agree with one of the posters above, he needs to finish out this season strong and get into the NIT. Next year they need to make the big dance though. Bringing back every player and bringing in a couple good recruits there is no reason why they should not make the dance next year.
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I agree
Jan 27, 2014, 1:56 PM
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I think we make the N.I.T. the season, and should be much better next season. However, I don't expect the incoming freshmen to come in and make a huge difference. These aren't one and done Kentucky recruits. 4* players take time to develop.
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Re: Clemsons problem in bball is recruiting
Jan 27, 2014, 1:01 AM
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Purnell, Purnell, Purnell my A$S. Purnell ran out on our kids after all his promises. He wasn't true to his wife, nor to the kids he brought to Clemson. He may have been a decent coach, but he wasn't worth a ### at teaching our Clemson young men about trust, honesty, or respectable morals.
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Re: Clemsons problem in bball is recruiting
Jan 27, 2014, 8:55 AM
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Also, all you guys talking like OP left us with a team of All-Americans. You forget you same guys were screaming to kick the two seniors off the team because they couldn't play.
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Its gettting coaches to stay.
Jan 27, 2014, 10:32 AM
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Clemson head coach just seems a jumping off position to other schools.
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Completely Wrong
Jan 27, 2014, 1:37 PM
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BB has his first good recruiting class coming in next season with Grantham and DeVoe. We've never won at CH Hill so it's not like this is something new. Even if we lose out, Brownell won't be fired.
Expect three more conference wins in the regular season. We'll be a NIT bubble team and need something good to happen in Greensboro. Next year will be a big improvement.
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Re: Its gettting coaches to stay.
Jan 27, 2014, 1:50 PM
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That could be very close to being the truth but, I believe that Brownell will stay if given a fair chance through our fan base. No decent coach will stay with a fan base constantly trash talking them through means of INK or public Vocal assassinations!!! And I TRULY believe that Br Br is the coach that could make Clemson look to be, and actually be a basketball school right along with our football and baseball programs.
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Can't argue that.
Jan 27, 2014, 2:44 PM
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I've all the confidence need to defend Brownell. I don't think the dumpers have much say so in who coaches at Clemson. It's all just background noise to The University.
It's likely he'll jump ship before he is fired though I hope he leaves us in better shape than OPIE.
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Oculus Spirit [94291]
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Re: Clemson's problem with recruiting is Clemson.
Jan 27, 2014, 2:40 PM
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Do you know how long it takes a coach to put Clemson in the top of the ACC and keep us there? Neither does anyone else because it hasn't happened in our lifetime.
Face it, putting Clemson where we want it to be is an uphill battle and most of the top coaches want no part of it. Think USuCk winning an SEC conference championship and a playoff game or two.
I'm not dumping on Clemson, that's just the way it is. We could hire and fire every coach we could sell the job to and throw millions at our program without success. Brownell is as good as anyone, IMO.
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