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Brad Brownell has a longer tenure than 91% of D1 CBB coaches
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Brad Brownell has a longer tenure than 91% of D1 CBB coaches

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Feb 20, 2023, 12:14 PM

Overall of the 350 D1 coaches, only 31 have a longer tenure than Brownell. Brownell has a longer tenure than 91% of D1 coaches. (13 others joined the same year as Brownell and have equal tenure).

Here is a list of the coaches with a longer tenure than Brownell among the major conferences/programs:

Jim Boeheim
Tom Izzo
Mark Few
Mike Brey
Leonard Hamilton
Scott Drew
Bill Self
Matt Painter
Bob Huggins
Jim Calipari
Tony Bennett

That’s it. 6 national title winners there. And the others are all very successful for their program.

Coaches with the same tenure as Brownell. (Started same year) from power leagues.

Tad Boyle
Greg McDermott
Fran McCaffrey
Dana Altman

These 4 are more similar to Brownell in terms of success but still all have more tournament appearances than Brownell.

Just some of the stats

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Do we know how many teams each of those coaches have…

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Feb 20, 2023, 12:35 PM

faced in conference with at least 19 wins this season. That is a critical stat.

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Re: Brad Brownell has a longer tenure than 91% of D1 CBB coaches

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Feb 20, 2023, 12:39 PM

Well I wish you had not posted that information. Makes me feel even worse...

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It should tell you that he's obviously doing something right

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Feb 20, 2023, 12:41 PM

to have that kind of longevity as a college basketball head coach.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Or that Clemson hasn't cared enough about basketball for...

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Feb 20, 2023, 12:43 PM

far too long.

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Re: Or that Clemson hasn't cared enough about basketball for...


Feb 24, 2023, 9:34 PM

Bingo!

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Re: It should tell you that he's obviously doing something right

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Feb 20, 2023, 12:45 PM [ in reply to It should tell you that he's obviously doing something right ]

No, it doesn't

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You don’t see him as the outlier amongst this group?***

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Do you think Brad is setup to succeed at that level at Clemson?

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Feb 20, 2023, 4:24 PM

Because I don’t.

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Re: Do you think Brad is setup to succeed at that level at Clemson?

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Feb 20, 2023, 8:16 PM

Since he’s failed to articulate what he needs for 13 years perhaps it’s time to find someone who can communicate with the AD more clearly. Thanks for pointing out yet another of his deficiencies.

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Re: Do you think Brad is setup to succeed at that level at Clemson?

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Feb 20, 2023, 8:31 PM [ in reply to Do you think Brad is setup to succeed at that level at Clemson? ]

Well in 2017 we were the 41st most valuable program. I cannot find more recent numbers. In 2020 Brad was the 51st highest paid head coach. Do you believe we have been a top 50 program over the last 6 years?

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Re: Do you think Brad is setup to succeed at that level at Clemson?

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Feb 21, 2023, 7:43 AM

He's currently the 39th highest paid coach, and our program ranks in the mid 70s

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Re: Do you think Brad is setup to succeed at that level at Clemson?


Feb 21, 2023, 7:42 AM [ in reply to Do you think Brad is setup to succeed at that level at Clemson? ]

You're right, he's not, so if the two of you would just leave, then everybody would be happy

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So Tad Boyle at Colorado with a worse basketball history


Feb 24, 2023, 3:03 PM [ in reply to Do you think Brad is setup to succeed at that level at Clemson? ]

than ours does?

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Feb 24, 2023, 9:35 PM [ in reply to Do you think Brad is setup to succeed at that level at Clemson? ]

I’d put a lot of money that he’d have no more success at a different institution.

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Nobody puts Bradley in a corner.

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Feb 20, 2023, 1:34 PM [ in reply to It should tell you that he's obviously doing something right ]

An uncanny ability to do just enough for his resume, not the team's, at that sink or swim moment to remain on staff.

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Feb 21, 2023, 7:46 AM [ in reply to It should tell you that he's obviously doing something right ]

No, he has compromising information on somebody in the ministration. Just talk to fans of other teams in the ACC and see what they think about Brownell. They laugh and say "we hope you keep him forever". That's not what you want to hear from your competition.

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Feb 24, 2023, 3:33 PM [ in reply to It should tell you that he's obviously doing something right ]

Actually, it says more about what our administration is doing wrong. JK always point out the lack of commitment to make basketball a winner and he could be right. If our administration really wanted to focus on that, BB would never have had the tenure he has had because we would have moved on a long time ago and we would have upgraded our coaching. I guess the lack of commitment has created this scenario and allowed BB to last as long as he has, much more so than because of the coaching job he has done.


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Re: It should tell you that he's obviously doing something right


Feb 24, 2023, 9:16 PM [ in reply to It should tell you that he's obviously doing something right ]

And what would this “right” be?

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And we're still have an average NET of 76 during

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Feb 20, 2023, 1:25 PM

his tenure. Is that okay??

All those "similar" coaches have done better as well.

Please stop the nonsense. Barring a miracle, the 76th ranked tenure is over.

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Yes. I only meant “similar” as in they aren’t all time legends


Feb 20, 2023, 4:19 PM

At their school. But still all more successful for sure.

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So he's PAID to put him in the 30's / 40's pay rate but his


Feb 20, 2023, 4:26 PM [ in reply to And we're still have an average NET of 76 during ]

average across 13 years is 76 NET in performance . . . . ? ? ? ?


Is that what you are saying ?

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


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Feb 20, 2023, 8:23 PM

What do you expect. He has a government job. They like mediocrity in the government.

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Feb 21, 2023, 7:55 AM

This is impossible to answer but interesting to think about. Does Brad Brownell achieve a decade plus tenure at that short list of schools? He’s always seemed like a bloom where you’re planted guy, so with success I don’t think he’d leave for another program. That removes the resources, recruiting advantages, and fan support aspect that has been argued is holding Brownell back from achieving greater success.

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you could argue if anyone else would have any better success


Feb 24, 2023, 2:54 PM

at Clemson. Maybe and maybe not

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Feel like this is a good time to bump this


Mar 15, 2023, 10:23 PM

Another year for brownell in the books

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Mar 15, 2023, 10:24 PM

Great post and research TIP! Says a lot.

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thank you***


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