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Why are non-citizens allowed to vote in any elections anywhere in the U.S.?
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Why are non-citizens allowed to vote in any elections anywhere in the U.S.?


Feb 8, 2024, 11:56 AM
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Should that be allowed?

And yes, I know they can't vote in federal elections.

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Yes, and people with alien registration cards who


Feb 8, 2024, 12:11 PM
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are here legally, can vote in some local races. It's left up to the local govt and that should rule this issue.

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Why are they being counted to determine demographics of Congressional Districts?***


Feb 8, 2024, 12:11 PM
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I'd like to hear an argument about why it should be allowed.

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Feb 8, 2024, 12:44 PM
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And where are non-citizens allowed to vote?

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Not many places, but they can in local DC elections.

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Feb 8, 2024, 12:49 PM
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https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States#Noncitizen%20Suffrage%20in%20Local%20Elections

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I don't see why that's appropriate.***

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Feb 8, 2024, 1:42 PM
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It seems as if the same reasons they aren't allowed to vote in federal

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Feb 8, 2024, 2:06 PM
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elections would apply to local elections as well. If they aren't citizens, they are less likely to share similar values, support or even care about the constitution, or have as much skin in the game.

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Agreed***


Feb 8, 2024, 2:28 PM
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Here's a Joe Rogan clip where there's somewhat of an argument put forth...

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Feb 8, 2024, 6:50 PM [ in reply to I don't see why that's appropriate.*** ]
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https://youtu.be/x0hbdEGLgHU?t=252

(If it doesn't go to the correct time, it starts at the 4:12 mark)

Basic argument is that there can be a difference between "illegal immigrant" and "non-citizen" and in some cases there can be an argument that if a person has been here long enough and pays taxes they should get a say in their local community through voting.

As an example, the comedian brings up his dad who has been here 40 years and still isn't a citizen. Now, I'm not arguing I agree as it seems a choice his dad is actively making by not becoming a citizen which should have consequences, but the core argument at least makes it a bit more of a grey area. I still side with only allowing citizens voting though, but I thought it was an interesting video.

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Re: Why are non-citizens allowed to vote in any elections anywhere in the U.S.?

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Feb 8, 2024, 1:08 PM
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What people don't understand in regards to this massive invasion of illegal immigrants is it's all part of a larger plan by the Democrats in tandem with NGOs, UN and WEF to not only shift demographics for voting purposes but to push the country into a crisis or a breaking point so they can usher in socialism (Coward Piven Strategy outlined in WEF manuals, not a conspiracy theory, look it up)

Basically what I'm saying is, they are allowing illegals to do things like get ID's, vote, get bank accounts, etc in democrat run states in order to condition people that it's normal and perfectly acceptable so when they (democrats) are able to take full control of government, they will be able to offer amnesty to 18million people across the US while leaving the border open to continue the cycle until their desired results are met

I know a lot of that was off topic but I am just explaining the why it's happening....also, democrat witnesses that have testified to Congress have admitted under oath that part of their reasoning for allowing illegals to vote is it helps them maintain power . It won't be long before they are able to vote in federal elections and Arizona is trying to push that through for this coming election

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Re: Why are non-citizens allowed to vote in any elections anywhere in the U.S.?

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Feb 8, 2024, 1:21 PM
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If the US had the same demographic breakdown as in 1980 Republicans would control every state. That's why the lefts been falling all over itself to allow as many illegal immigrants as possible for decades. Pretending it's because we need cabbage pickers or lawn mowers only proves how stupid they think their voters really are.

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IMO, they shouldn't

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Feb 8, 2024, 2:25 PM
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Although without researching it, someone would have to show me otherwise. But it seems they shouldn't.

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What is to get one of those little I VOTED stickers?***


Feb 8, 2024, 2:30 PM
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Because the Citizens United decision

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Feb 8, 2024, 4:03 PM
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showed us that the franchise should not be constrained only to the individual citizen because the American people actually need outsiders to diffuse the balance of power......it really is for their own good, lol.

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So the war party has more methods to rig elections***


Feb 8, 2024, 8:15 PM
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