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Legend [16930]
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ACC basketball
Dec 15, 2022, 1:51 PM
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ACC has shrunk in significance with each expansion. Here are some pretty stark numbers.
The NCAA tournament expanded to 64 teams in 1985. From 1985 until 1991 the ACC was an 8 team conference. During that period, the ACC sent 39 teams to the NCAA tournament out of a maximum possible total of 56. That was a whopping 70% rate.
The ACC expanded to 9 teams in the 1991-92 season. For the NCAA tournaments from 1992 until 2004, the ACC sent 63 teams out of 117 possible. That is a 54% rate.
The ACC would then expand to 11, 12, and ultimately 15 teams. From 2004-05 until 2009-10, the ACC sent 33 teams out of a possible 72 for a 45.8% rate.
In the Brownell era, the ACC has sent 69 of 155 possible teams for a 44% rate. In terms of making the tournament, during the Brad Brownell era at Clemson, the ACC is the least competitive it has ever been since the 64-team expansion.
That the 15-team league was able to twice place 9 teams in the tourney undermines the argument that the tourney is penalizing the size of the conference. It simply has not been a top conference most seasons since expansion. Having a team capable of winning the national championship does not speak to the competitive balance of the conference. Even last year's improbable 3 in the elite 8 only represents 1/5 of the league. And those 3 teams were three of the top 4 in the league's regular season standings. A middle of the pack ACC team did not find their way into the Final Four.
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ACC schools need to pony up
Dec 15, 2022, 2:55 PM
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and start paying assistant coaches more so they can recruit better players and teach them how to play basketball right. That way their head coaches will be able to go to more tournaments and get raises and afford better houses. It’s all about support staff and facilities and goobelty gobbelty glop see? I mean basketball teams have like 13 guys and like 8 who actually play. That means you have to recruit like 1-3 guys every year and then you have to coach them basketball. I mean you couldn’t pay me $2.6 million to do all that unless you gave me A LOT of super highly paid support staff, all the fans came to every game to worship me, and maybe threw in a revolving door of hot personal assistants. Anything less and well, I’d just have to complain a lot and probably do a really mediocre job
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Something else John Swofford got wrong...shocker right?***
Dec 15, 2022, 3:01 PM
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I would love to hear somebody's defense of Swofford
Dec 15, 2022, 3:11 PM
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as it pertains to the subject of expansion, at least one of y'all disagrees...Humor me
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In all seriousness...some of that is due to exposure and
Dec 15, 2022, 3:09 PM
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some could be attributed to a lack of continuity...Back when the ACC was it's strongest the Conference benefited from it's TV exposure and the expansion of the NCAA Tourney field...Now, with online options, you can watch almost every game for almost any team...That coupled with the growth of D-1 programs(over 350 now) and transfers(even pre-portal) and One and Dones has drastically lowered the quality of player from year to year in the Conference as well...In the 80s we got plenty of good to great players because the wanted to play in the ACC and be on TV, that is no longer the case
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Re: ACC basketball
Dec 16, 2022, 4:21 PM
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There is a really simple explanation for that...the ACC was designed and/or morphed into a basketball conference from its inception, but the ACC didn't expand for basketball. Not when FSU came on board, not when VT, Miami and BC came on board, and not when the last additions were made. Expansion has never been about basketball, and considering the money involved, shouldn't have been.
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This league is ripe for the taking, for a new power to step
Dec 16, 2022, 4:53 PM
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forward and grab the reins. Tobacco Road is as uninfluential in the league now as ever. It would be great to see us pursue leadership in our program that has the fight, vision, and belief that we could be that school to lead in this new era ahead. A dreamer with chops.
Go Tigers.
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Conference monetary gap is really starting to show here coupled with
Dec 16, 2022, 5:22 PM
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losing some hall of fame coaches (coach K, Roy). Not good!
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