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Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter
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Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter


Dec 20, 2018, 3:45 PM

His recruiting performance is on average with USCe most recent 15-year history, and gotten worse each year for the past 3.

USCe class rank over time per Rivals. Why the complaints that the program was in bad shape, when recruiting was on par with current?

Muschamp:
2019 - 22
2018 - 18
2017 - 16
2016 - 26

Spurrier:
2015 - 19
2014 - 16
2013 - 16
2012 - 19
2011 - 18
2010 - 24
2009 - 12
2008 - 22
2007 - 6
2006 - 24
2005 - 23

Holtz:
2004 - 35
2003 - 8
2002 - 11

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Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter


Dec 20, 2018, 4:10 PM

The coots benefit from the fact that Dabo can recruit nationally which leaves some good players in our state available.

The coots are 9th or 10th best in the own conference in recruiting and are no where close to closing the gap on Clemson.

Not sure it ends well for Muschamp in the next few years if teams like Tennessee improve. They already can't beat UGA or Kentucky. Florida is only going to get better as is Missouri. They play A&M every year. Think the coot fans are going to accept 7 and 5 or 6 and 6 every year?

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They seem pretty happy with 7-5 this year!


Dec 20, 2018, 4:13 PM

Just saying.

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Re: They seem pretty happy with 7-5 this year!


Dec 20, 2018, 4:15 PM

They really don't have a choice but to accept then7-5 or 6-6. They get what it is and nothing more.

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They seem unbelievably happy with moral victories...


Dec 20, 2018, 4:27 PM [ in reply to They seem pretty happy with 7-5 this year! ]

so why not continue accommodating them for another five years.

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Re: They seem pretty happy with 7-5 this year!


Dec 20, 2018, 4:38 PM [ in reply to They seem pretty happy with 7-5 this year! ]

And losing to there rival by 21. ??????

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Re: They seem pretty happy with 7-5 this year!


Dec 20, 2018, 4:50 PM

It's an improvement!

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Re: They seem pretty happy with 7-5 this year!


Dec 21, 2018, 12:05 AM [ in reply to They seem pretty happy with 7-5 this year! ]

Not to point out the obvious, but 7-5 is actually much better than their historical winning %. We all laugh about 7 wins getting you a raise in Columbia, but Muscoot's sparkling 19-16 record against FBS opponents (which includes UMass, Coastal Carolina & Akron, among others) is also better than their average.

And don't forget, they are leading the state in Moral Victories

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Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter


Dec 20, 2018, 10:32 PM [ in reply to Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter ]

Why not.....they have been ok with doing that for over 100+ years........they’re happy to just make a bowl game even if it is the Toilet Bowl each year...,,..Coots gonna Coot.......Go Tigers!!!!!!

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Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter


Dec 20, 2018, 4:53 PM

What are CU's ratings? Just curious how we compare.

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Cusschamp is not a bad recruiter...


Dec 20, 2018, 4:57 PM

he's just not a particularly good coach.

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Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter


Dec 20, 2018, 5:13 PM [ in reply to Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter ]

2019 6
2018 8
2017 22
2016 6
2015 4
2014 13
2013 14
2012 14
2011 8

10.5 average

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Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter


Dec 20, 2018, 5:52 PM

Same time period coot averaged 18.8

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Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter


Dec 20, 2018, 5:00 PM

I hope they give him a raise every year, can stay there till he retires.

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You obviously don't read FGF...***


Dec 20, 2018, 5:04 PM



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Speaking entirely for myself...


Dec 20, 2018, 5:08 PM

I'm elated that they're so happy with him.

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I'm totally with you Biggie.***


Dec 20, 2018, 5:09 PM



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Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter


Dec 20, 2018, 5:26 PM

That really just shows how bad the recruiting websites are at evaluating talent.

In that 2014 class we got 4-5 contributors out of that class and the lowest ranked one was by far the best one.

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I'm sure...


Dec 20, 2018, 5:45 PM

the braintrust at FGF is much better at talent evaluation.

This is the same group of moral defectives who predicted 9 or 10 wins and an $EC-Least Championship in 2018.

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Are you referring to Samuel? He was a 3 star***


Dec 20, 2018, 5:48 PM [ in reply to Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter ]



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I'd say your coaches are worse at evaluating talent


Dec 20, 2018, 5:48 PM [ in reply to Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter ]

And also bad at developing the talent

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Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter


Dec 20, 2018, 5:50 PM [ in reply to Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter ]

Seems fairly accurate to me... Muschamp gets classes between 18-25 range and add in his ability to develop the players he brings in and you end up with a team ranked somewhere around 35-40 sitting at 7-5.

Clemson lately has been 6-10 range and with Dabo’s ability to motivate and coach up players we are consistently top 4 every year.

Seems very accurate to me, what am I missing?

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Looks about average to me.***


Dec 20, 2018, 6:30 PM



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This class has the 2nd highest Rivals avg star rating


Dec 20, 2018, 9:29 PM

ever for SC. That is with a class made up of 9 lineman and two TE’s out of 19. I enjoy it when a rival starts posting about our coach, means he is doing something right.

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Re: Lol, good for you all! We like it too!***


Dec 20, 2018, 10:16 PM



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Re: This class has the 2nd highest Rivals avg star rating


Dec 20, 2018, 10:34 PM [ in reply to This class has the 2nd highest Rivals avg star rating ]

By never having a chance to beat Dabo or out recruit Dabo being doing something right... than yes. Muschamp is crushing it.

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Dec 20, 2018, 10:54 PM [ in reply to This class has the 2nd highest Rivals avg star rating ]

Rival??? I hope your chicken swarm can make it competitive in another 10 years. However, Boomshat ain’t the coots’ savior you wish him to be.

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Don't mistake our laugher as respect.


Dec 21, 2018, 8:55 AM [ in reply to This class has the 2nd highest Rivals avg star rating ]

He's the best you could do at the time and your baseball coach that is trying to run things doesn't want to have to try that again.

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Re: Muscoot is NOT a great recruiter


Dec 21, 2018, 8:35 AM

1. As long as Tanner is AD, I think Muschamp is safe.
2. Muschamp is a good enough coach and recruiter to win 7-8 games a year.
3. I believe most S.C. fans have come to the realization that going 7-5 8-4 is a great year for them.

The only caviat to this is if Muschamp keeps losing to us, things could get ugly.

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