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George Bush reading to the class and hearing the news....
Sep 11, 2019, 10:21 AM
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this part was always frustrating due to people saying that he didnt act quick enough and that he didn't seem to actually know how to handle the situation.
The guy didnt want to cause panic, plain and simple. He was actually trying to think about how to get out of that room without causing a huge stir. Not just the kids, but if the President of the US just hops up and even walks out of the room quickly or SS takes him away quickly, that is panic, I know I would panic.
Just a part of the day that was tough, but tougher to watch him take the heat for actually being a good leader in that moment and not panicking.
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I'm sure the man had no idea what to do
Sep 11, 2019, 10:23 AM
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for a while after that.
Hell there was so much confusion and the fact that something on this scale hasn't happened on American soil in a long time (other than say the Oklahoma City bombing).
Bush Jr. was suppose to be working on his daddy's legacy and getting what was left of his agenda through Congress. Not after that day.
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Actually there are some recent accounts of exactly what he
Sep 12, 2019, 8:44 AM
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Did.
He handled the classroom scenario perfectly as others have noted....it wasn’t just how those kids saw the situation, it’s how the country also viewed him in that moment.
As soon as he left the classroom, he immediately instructed his chief of staff to get in touch with the FBI Director and Vice President, and he told them to consider the US to be at war.
Apparently he also spent much of the next several hours angrily arguing with the secret service and his COS over their refusal to take him back to DC immediately.
I disagree with Bush in several things, but I think he was a good man and possessed a lot of innate leadership skills that can’t be taught.
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Re: Actually there are some recent accounts of exactly what he
Sep 12, 2019, 9:47 AM
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that is because he was on a fools errand while adults handled the situation. It did not matter what he did, but to call this leadership is laughable. He should have been on air force one talking to the joint chiefs of staff, but we all know he was an incompetent buffoon and his handlers prefer him sitting in a classroom. He had no control over that situation.
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Lot o points [155598]
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uh-huh.***
Sep 12, 2019, 9:52 AM
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It probably doesn't really matter now.
Sep 11, 2019, 10:27 AM
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I was critical back then but then again, I've never been the president and had those words whispered in my ear. It's all a moot point, really.
More of the problem are the actions of the Bush admin post-9/11 and the continuation of many of these policy problems under Obama.
9/11 had a very bad damaging effect on our nation and we're still feeling it. It divided us more and resulted in more terrible leadership policies from both sides of the fence. So what Bush did while reading to the kids really doesn't matter anymore, I reckon.
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You are right, its doesnt matter
Sep 11, 2019, 10:38 AM
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I was just pointing out how the situation was misconstrued.
His book Decision Points, is a must read for any one who like politics. It shows that he definitely isn's racist (katrina victims), he wanted what was best for the Country, but I just never think he surrounded himself with the right people. War Hawks get you NO WHERE. They are so bad with optics (see Obama as well) and cause the population not to understand you as a human.
Oh well.....
The situation now is a bit out of hand and optics is like a relic from Revolutionary War.
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Re: You are right, its doesnt matter
Sep 11, 2019, 3:43 PM
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I just never think he surrounded himself with the right people.
I've grown a bit more accepting of Bush over the years because of this and some of the humanity he has shown over the last few years. Also, compared to the idiocy we have now.
I agree he had a lot of awful people around him. I think he made a huge mistake with Cheney, who just went out and snagged more of the terrible people Bush's dad and Nixon used.
I don't think history is going to be ultimately kind to Bush's presidency, but I do believe he has a conscience and was in a very tough situation that we'll never fully understand. But ####, just no Cheney or warhawks.
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Re: George Bush reading to the class and hearing the news....
Sep 11, 2019, 10:37 AM
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yes, not creating a panic in a kindergarten classroom showed amazing leadership and diplomacy.
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Re: George Bush reading to the class and hearing the news....
Sep 11, 2019, 1:23 PM
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You are not aware the incident was being filmed and as it was, was broadcast soon after the taping? You're wit failed you this time. It's becoming a trend.
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you guys are priceless
Sep 12, 2019, 1:39 AM
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the entire world was watching two buildings on fire that had been hit by passenger jets, and now we are defending the president for finishing his reading of "The Pet Goat" to a kindergarten, "because he did not want to create a panic"? lollers...
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What would you have had him do?
Sep 12, 2019, 9:53 AM
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Throw the book in the air and run out of the room like his pants were on fire?
Maybe to add to your effect, he could have been screaming "We just got attacked and we're all going to die!" as he tore out of the room.
Why not just go ahead and admit that he has the wrong letter after his name, and because of that, in your feeble mind, there was no correct reaction for him.
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I thought the criticisms of him in that moment were
Sep 11, 2019, 10:58 AM
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misplaced. He did what he was supposed to do. In retrospect, I think he was a good guy to be in the WH during and post 9/11. Dubya showed an immense capacity for empathy and understanding; an ability to connect human to human in a meaningful way.
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The interview with Dubya about 9/11 on NatGeo is the
Sep 11, 2019, 1:05 PM
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awesome.
He had much Shiite he had to shoulder at that moment and in the following days...
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agreed. And I really do not like W***
Sep 11, 2019, 1:17 PM
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He couldn't believe that Cheney and Rumsfeld had actually
Sep 11, 2019, 5:01 PM
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gone through with it... That's the stunned look.
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Oculus Spirit [80955]
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ugh***
Sep 12, 2019, 9:48 AM
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Re: George Bush reading to the class and hearing the news....
Sep 11, 2019, 11:06 PM
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I don't know tigermanic, the country being under attack, to me,seems way more important than causing a stir in an elementary school.
I liked the guy, but his instincts were wrong at that moment. But it doesn't define him. I think he's grown into a very decent man. But he got a lot of really bad advice.
Invading Iraq while knowing they had nothing to do with 9/11 was a tragically bad idea.
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Re: George Bush reading to the class and hearing the news....
Sep 12, 2019, 2:11 AM
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I remember his lies about Iraqi WMD's while Saudi Arabia the country indirectly responsible for 9/11 got away scot-free (BTW, they still fund terrorists 18 years later), and then how an average of 22 American combat vets commit suicide each day, which accounts for 21% of suicides in this country. Thus I ask: How many American lives have been destroyed by his lies? The media never reports on all the soldiers killed in training exercises, or that end up homeless on streets , or those that come back with severe PTSD that makes their lives and their families lives a combination of pain & heartache. The amount of lives destroyed in America are in the millions. Lies by suits in DC have real life consequences to families not only all over our country, but all over the world as well. This is all factual, not some conspiracy theory, this has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican (I lean Republican BTW), it has to do with caring about our men & women in uniform, and not wanting to disrespect by them by allowing excuses for the person that helped ruined so many of their lives with self-serving lies. (GWB's approval rating was down to 23% before he declared war)
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You may not agree with the war ( I don't), but blaming
Sep 12, 2019, 9:50 AM
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Bush for people killing themselves is a stretch of logic I can't make.
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