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And this is why the Republicans are shooting themselves...


Sep 13, 2019, 5:36 AM

...in the foot and putting another in their own kneecap for good measure.

There was a time not terribly long ago the Republicans were the party of common sense and grounded ideology and cold hard reality...and they were the guys standing up to the folks who made Orwellian misrepresentation the operating order of the day.

Times are changing. And these dark-money PAC's are demonstrating just how much, and how much they're emphasizing the worst elements of the party of which I'm still a registered member.

Last night during the Democratic debates, failed would-be congresswoman Elizabeth Heng ran an attack ad on the right's favorite straw dog, Alexandria Osario Cortez. Mind, I'm no fan of socialism and I think AOC is well-meaning if naive (she's not even 30 yet, and it shows!) with a raftload of unaffordable and half-baked ideas that would bankrupt the country if implemented, but there's a world of difference between socialism and whatever brand of Communism it was they were practicing in Cambodia, where Heng is from. Which Heng knows perfectly well herself.

Socialism is distinctly not Communism, by the way, any more than Bush-or-Reagan-era Republicanism was Fascism or even close to being Nazi Party (though the current Party of Trump is trodding dangerously close to Mussolini territory in a number of key areas. Bear in mind, though, that the Fascists were just a garden-variety oppressive right-wing regime that happened to be unenthusiastically allied to a far worse one with the Nazis.) And even Communists would have flinched at the way the Cambodian Khmer Rouge treated everybody...which is kind of like if a race of giant insects landed on Earth seeking revenge for the way humans had treated their tiny cousins. Pol Pot was history's bronze-medal genocide, behind only Stalin and Hitler.

I really despise the false equivalencies being made in this video, and the insinuation that AOC - who is a candystore crusader - is somehow likely to go forth and cap two million people. I also dislike (intensely) the patently false notion that the Republican Party isn't being racist here. Folks, AOC is such an easy straw dog because deep-down too many people seem to be livid that a Hispanic chick doesn't know her place and needs to shut up and go mop another floor...a sentiment that is making her ridiculous and impractical philosophy more heard, not less. But it's precisely crap like this that is making a hero out of her to the left. You want to defeat her, stop elevating her to the status of presidential contenders. She's already gotten more press out of this than the candidates did.

https://twitter.com/NewFacesGOP/status/1172306590487048192

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Bring up Nazi and racist pretty much ends a conversation.


Sep 13, 2019, 5:59 AM

At the risk of being scolded for posting email spam by 19B...

https://www.departments.bucknell.edu/russian/const/36cons04.html

"ARTICLE 118. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to work, that is, are guaranteed the right to employment and payment for their work in accordance With its quantity and quality.

The right to work is ensured by the socialist organization of the national economy, the steady growth of the productive forces of Soviet society, the elimination of the possibility of economic crises, and the abolition of unemployment.
ARTICLE 119. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to rest and leisure. The right to rest and leisure is ensured by the reduction of the working day to seven hours for the overwhelming majority of the workers, the institution of annual vacations with full pay for workers and employees and the provision of a wide network of sanatoria, rest homes and clubs for the accommodation of the working people.

ARTICLE 120. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to maintenance in old age and also in case of sickness or loss of capacity to work. This right is ensured by the extensive development of social insurance of workers and employees at state expense, free medical service for the working people and the provision of a wide network of health resorts for the use of the working people.

ARTICLE 121. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to education. This right is ensured by universal, compulsory elementary education; by education, including higher education, being free of charge; by the system of state stipends for the overwhelming majority of students in the universities and colleges; by instruction in schools being conducted in the native Ianguage, and by the organization in the factories, state farms, machine and tractor stations and collective farms of free vocational, technical and agronomic training for the working people.

ARTICLE 122. Women in the U.S.S.R. are accorded equal rights with men in all spheres of economic, state, cultural, social and political life. The possibility of exercising these rights is ensured to women by granting them an equal right with men to work, payment for work, rest and leisure, social insurance and education, and by state protection of the interests of mother and child, prematernity and maternity leave with full pay, and the provision of a wide network of maternity homes, nurseries and kindergartens.

ARTICLE 123. Equality of rights of citizens of the U.S.S.R., irrespective of their nationality or race, in all spheres of economic, state, cultural, social and political life, is an indefeasible law. Any direct or indirect restriction of the rights of, or, conversely, any establishment of direct or indirect privileges for, citizens on account of their race or nationality, as well as any advocacy of racial or national exclusiveness or hatred and contempt, is punishable by law.

ARTICLE 124. In order to ensure to citizens freedom of conscience, the church in the U.S.S.R. is separated from the state, and the school from the church. Freedom of religious worship and freedom of antireligious propaganda is recognized for all citizens.

ARTICLE 125. In conformity with the interests of the working people, and in order to strengthen the socialist system, the citizens of the U.S.S.R. are guaranteed by law:

freedom of speech;
freedom of the press;
freedom of assembly, including the holding of mass meetings;
reedom of street processions and demonstrations.
These civil rights are ensured by placing at the disposal of the working people and their organizations printing presses, stocks of paper, public buildings, the streets, communications facilities and other material requisites for the exercise of th..."

So how did that socialism work out for the Russian peoples?

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Re: Bring up Nazi and racist pretty much ends a conversation.


Sep 13, 2019, 8:06 AM

Well, as we know, all that was BS with the USSR, but a lot of those things listed are guaranteed rights for Americans. So what's the problem? I understand a lot of Americans want those rights to go away.

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You're not concerned that democrat campaign promises...


Sep 13, 2019, 12:14 PM

look exactly like that 1936 USSR constitution? I don't have a problem. I have a concern.

My concern is not that dems are making promises. All of us here know they will never deliver most of the things on their promise list. My concern is the number of dems who would vote for Bernie or Liz knowing that they are perpetuating socialism considering the promises those two are making.

We have a good constitution. The rights secured by our constitution are civil and possible to protect without having government run our daily lives.

My issue is that dems have begun to think government is the solution to mankind's plight. I believe the human mind is the solution not the government. I just don't want government to be part of the problem.

Yes, Trump concerns me. Every POTUS concerns me. The have too much power because congress is more concerned with keeping their seat than legislating.

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Re: You're not concerned that democrat campaign promises...


Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 PM

But let's look at some of that constitution. Also, we recognize that their constitution is full of #### in a lot of areas:

A right to education. Free press. Free speech. Equal rights for all. Free religion and separation of church and state. Freedom of assembly.

Those ain't Soviet concepts, brother. Most of what's in that constitution is just straight up, good ole fashioned America copying. Of course, as we know, under the Soviets, it was complete BS.

I'm not sure you gave the best example.

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You're focused on the similarities between the USSR...


Sep 13, 2019, 3:04 PM

constitution and our constitution.

Good for you, now focus on the differences and how they devastated the USSR people. Focus on the commitments which they couldn't keep and the similarities of those commitments to the promises the democrat candidates are making right now.

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Re: You're focused on the similarities between the USSR...


Sep 13, 2019, 3:07 PM

Maybe your point would be better served if, rather than blanket C&P a post that's loaded with great ideology along with the negative, you instead just pull out the negative. Otherwise, it looks like you're calling the great stuff terrible.

I don't believe the Dems can successfully implement anything truly socialist (or that any of them really want to), but if y'all keep rallying around Trump and his ilk, you're going to staring down the barrel of a big fat Dem White House and Congress that could possibly do it. Time for all of you to turn on this imbecile. Y'all have sacrificed long term security for temporary fringe comfort.

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Your last two sentences are, by far, the most important.***


Sep 13, 2019, 3:49 PM



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So if pubs continue to support Trump he will lose?


Sep 13, 2019, 3:57 PM [ in reply to Re: You're focused on the similarities between the USSR... ]

I wouldn't dare take excerpts from a document to make a point. Give me more credit than that. You're objective enough to read and intelligent enough to comprehend the specific promises which created the problems the USSR people and how they got the public to go along with the program by promising free stuff.

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Re: So if pubs continue to support Trump he will lose?


Sep 13, 2019, 7:18 PM

I'm saying if y'all don't abandon Trump--and fast--y'all will pay for this for many, many years. I know y'all naively think America loves this man, but they don't and they're ready to kick him out. He's a train wreck.

Not take excerpts? Dude, their constitution calls for a lot of fantastic America ideals like free speech, press, religion, equality, etc., and you don't want to take the time to remove that before you denounce it?

Good luck.

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Re: Bring up Nazi and racist pretty much ends a conversation.


Sep 13, 2019, 8:07 AM [ in reply to Bring up Nazi and racist pretty much ends a conversation. ]

Yes. That part is indeed socialism. It's also why posting part of something can be so misleading.

Where it goes further - far further - and becomes Communism is undoubtedly in all the other articles you didn't mention.

The state determines everything. Where you work. Where you live. How much you make. If you're serving in the army or not. The price of all goods and services. Your criminal rights, or lack thereof. The ownership of all property. The list goes on and on.

It also doesn't mention the unofficial Party system that basically means that the key to social advancement and promotion is your dedication to the State's ideology as opposed to competency. Which means that the way you got ahead in the USSR was to join the Communist Party, become real devout, and advance up the Party's hierarchy and gain real-world promotion thereby.

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Have you been keeping up with the promises coming...


Sep 13, 2019, 12:03 PM

from dem candidates? While we know they won't deliver on those promises we must note that many votes expect those promises to be fulfilled. The fact that these candidates have moved so close to making the USSR's promises should bother everyone.

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Re: Have you been keeping up with the promises coming...


Sep 13, 2019, 2:52 PM

You claim the Dems are echoing the ideology of the Soviets but you're always quick to mock and dismiss the idea that Trump and his ilk are pushing towards fascism. Can't have it both ways, bro.

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I get a little foothold on a conversation and...


Sep 13, 2019, 3:05 PM

now I'm a NAZI racist supporter.

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Holy ####### straw man.


Sep 13, 2019, 3:08 PM

Grow up. I didn't call you that. Start over and try again.

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You know I'm a Trump supporter.


Sep 13, 2019, 3:53 PM

You claimed Trump is pushing a fascist agenda therefore you're saying I'm supporting a fascist. It's a 2+2 equation, not complicated at all.

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Re: You know I'm a Trump supporter.


Sep 13, 2019, 7:19 PM

Just because you're a Trump supporter doesn't mean you're some kind of Nazi, racist, or fascist.

Trump is a racist and a fascist and he's surrounded himself with people like him. You scoff at this while at the same time declaring the Dems want USSR Part 2.

You can't have it both ways. And you created a straw man out of my point.

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They shot themselves long ago


Sep 13, 2019, 7:30 AM

Which is why we have Trump. And why the dems are swerving further and further left. Anyone who's lost control of a moving vehicle knows how this goes and where it ends up.

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Re: They shot themselves long ago


Sep 13, 2019, 3:26 PM

Electing and blindly backing Trump is going to be the most damaging shot fired into their leg in the long run.

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Re: And this is why the Republicans are shooting themselves...


Sep 13, 2019, 7:36 AM

Nobody comes to power saying they are gonnna cap millions, take over and ruin an economy and it reality it is a slow slide to that happening. Hugo Chávez did not begin to Nationalize stuff until year 6 after his other policies failed. Just saying the Dems are all lying on costs, how it will be paid for and until they lay it out in real world numbers it is panndering.

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It's definitely a backfiring play.


Sep 13, 2019, 8:04 AM

If they ignored her, the Dem party would likely keep her under wraps. But since they want to make her the straw dog as you say, it's only stirring up more youth and minority support for the Dems. They've played this one poorly.

Glad someone else sensible on this board recognizes Trump's push to fascism, and that fascism doesn't automatically mean Nazism.

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Re: It's definitely a backfiring play.


Sep 13, 2019, 8:36 AM

The Repubs love AOC. She is great for them. Pelosi knows tbat too. Thats why she has worked so hard to get AOC to quiet down some. The Repubs are playing that well. People that cant stand Trump still think that he is their only option due to AOC etc. Repubs are turning the Dems into one giant AOC. Repubs just care about the swing states. Their plan plays well for their goals.

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I will agree that she has calmed down some since her


Sep 13, 2019, 9:32 AM

green new deal.

However, you're talking about a party that can put a meme of something she never said and 90% of them take it as gospel.

And when someone calls it out as false you hear "yeah but can you imagine if she did?

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I like your funny words magic man


Calmed down some..heh


Sep 13, 2019, 9:36 AM

Well after you submit proposed legislation that says that every building in the US needs to be rebuilt, and that airplanes can't fly....well, your only logical place to go is to either shut up, or sit down.

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Re: It's definitely a backfiring play.


Sep 13, 2019, 2:39 PM [ in reply to Re: It's definitely a backfiring play. ]

I thought so at first, but I don't think it's helping them now. Those who dislike AOC aren't getting anything new. It's making them look silly and petty.

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Re: It's definitely a backfiring play.


Sep 13, 2019, 4:09 PM

Not really in the places it matters is my call. It reaffirms to many that our Dem party is too extreme and not a viable.option.

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In your opinion, do you think AOC ideolgy is an


Sep 13, 2019, 4:50 PM

accurate measure of the Dem party as a whole? If so, why?

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Re: In your opinion, do you think AOC ideolgy is an


Sep 13, 2019, 5:29 PM

Absolutely not. I think she is more extreme and less moderate than the avetage Dem. Thats why the Repubs have targeted her.

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I agree. Coming from possibly the most liberal district in


Sep 13, 2019, 8:39 PM

the US, I don't think she shares a lot of common ideas with most people across the country. I won't take anything away from her, she hustles, does her homework, and she dang sho ain't late for class. But as a young ideologue, she's hit the predictable speed bumps. As she is everything conservative media hates, I understand why they lionize her; but she ain't the debil. And she ### sho shouldn't have to be under protection 24/7 for her beliefs.

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The ad represents the kinda


Sep 13, 2019, 11:10 AM

shid that America is addicted to but needs to get away from. Instead of taking AOC for what she is, a freshman house rep with no power, let's make her the face of evil. What's the most evil word in current conservative media?.......why, it's socialism!!! And there's your BRAND. Make an AOC commercial with fire, dead bodies, and skeletons.....because that's socialism! And that's a lot like communism, and we know commies are bad, so BRAND!

No different than McDonalds, "I'm Lovin' It", Coke's cute Christmas polar bears, or the "Yo quiero Taco Bell" chihuahua. They want you to buy something, and that something is that AOC is the devil incarnate, the evilest evil that ever eviled.

Real political discussions are replaced by marketing and memes with no actual substance. Reality is that unless you're under 10, McDonald's sucks; Coke is sugary shid that makes you fat; and the aperient properties of Taco Bell's food outweigh any flavor or convenience attributed to it. Whether you consider yourself a D or an R, don't believe the hype y'all. Have a conversation.

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Interesting superpowers you have there.....


Sep 13, 2019, 12:20 PM

I sure wish I could read minds to REALLY understand what people thought and meant.

However, if you don't have that superpower, you making this statement in such a cavalier fashion tells me more about how you think and feel than the people you accuse.

"Folks, AOC is such an easy straw dog because deep-down too many people seem to be livid that a Hispanic chick doesn't know her place and needs to shut up and go mop another floor..."

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There is really just no point in trying to downplay the


Sep 13, 2019, 1:08 PM

racially pocked treatment of AOC; be it media, interwebs, or casual conversation. While not all of her critics have racially charged motives, many of them do, and it's wrong to lend them any validation. Post-Trump, our everyday society will have much to repair just for normal non-prejudiced folks to get along better; not to mention we'll need to send trashy white nationalists scurrying back under the rocks from whence they came.

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What's an example of an AOC critic with a racially charged


Sep 13, 2019, 1:35 PM

motive? Seems to me it basically boils down to white people can't criticize non white people no matter how stupid they are cause racism. What will need to be repaired for non-prejudiced folks to get along better? Are non prejudiced people all of the sudden not getting along anymore, and if so, where is that occurring? Cause I don't see it.

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What is Trump's goto twit about women and especially


Sep 13, 2019, 3:07 PM

women of color? Low IQ, not smart, not intelligent...count how many of those he's put out regarding AOC or "the Squad" as he calls them and then picked up and re-twitted by the racist shidbags that follow him. Then see what was repeated on any conservative news show, blog, column. And where did he want to "send them back to"? It is not a secret that DJT doesn't like brown/black people, esp. women of color, esp. competent women of color.

If you're looking for an "I hate AOC, cuz she's a dirty Puerto Rican"...go to a Klan meeting or visit a Stormfront website. But you really don't have to be a master interpreter to understand that our politics and society have a real problem, right now, with divisiveness and racism. If that's fine with you, don't say anything. To defend it, let's everyone know where you stand.

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I’m not defending anything, you’re just making stuff up


Sep 13, 2019, 4:11 PM

So he’s never said nasty things about white people? The guy attacks people who disagree with him, it’s as simple as that. This “racial undertones” BS is so tired and annoying.

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There's no gettin' around the fact that DJT


Sep 13, 2019, 4:39 PM

is racist af...not even debatable. What he says and what he does are not undertones, it's divisive and almost always working along the lines of color and class. The GOP should've turned on him long ago and worked to bring civility back to our political discourse, instead many have gone "all in" with him or most refuse to stick their neck out for fear of getting the dreaded insult twit and losing support...so they go along. Whether you want to acknowledge the racial component to our political/media climate or not is up to you. No BS...Go Tigers!

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Re: There is really just no point in trying to downplay the


Sep 13, 2019, 1:41 PM [ in reply to There is really just no point in trying to downplay the ]

Nope,nada,Nyet because if she was white thinking people would still dislike just as bad. She speaks and it lowers the IQ of those near her.

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I'm sorry, she seems to be an intelligent


Sep 13, 2019, 3:14 PM

and articulate young woman that got herself elected to the US House a Representatives. Though it is probably the most left leaning district in the country, I think that would make her somewhat accomplished. As an inexperienced congresswoman, the green deal was a naïve venture, but she's kinda new at this. Maybe cut her some slack, even if you don't agree with her ideas.

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Re: I'm sorry, she seems to be an intelligent


Sep 13, 2019, 8:37 PM

She says exactly what she thinks and feels and no I will not cut her any slack. The extra rope could be used to figuratively hang me economically. She is more aligned with the stupidity espoused in Venezuela in truth

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Then you are dumb. No freshman House rep has the power


Sep 13, 2019, 8:41 PM

to hang you economically. Quit watching/reading conservative media and join a real conversation. If you don't want free exchange of ideas (no matter how opposed to yours they might be) then you don't want America. We literally came here for that privilege.

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I may not be the smartest man in the room, but


Sep 13, 2019, 11:10 PM

It seems a little counterproductive to call someone dumb right before you implore them to freely exchange ideas with you.

Secondly, if you treasure the free exchange of ideas, you probably should hope he keeps watching/reading conservative media, or the only place you’ll be exchanging ideas is inside an echo chamber. Although many people seem hell-bent on achieving that level of one-sidedness, I don’t think you’re one of them.

More often than not, the truth probably lies somewhere in between the media you and he consider credible. You eliminate either side, and you eliminate the truthful middle as well.

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Re: Then you are dumb. No freshman House rep has the power


Sep 14, 2019, 7:49 AM [ in reply to Then you are dumb. No freshman House rep has the power ]


to hang you economically. Quit watching/reading conservative media and join a real conversation. If you don't want free exchange of ideas (no matter how opposed to yours they might be) then you don't want America. We literally came here for that privilege.



I do not wathc oread "conservative" media Slac, your assumption of a Fox news addict is rather insulting and not surprising at all as libs think anyone that disagrees with their ideas to be consumed by the loons on the right. Oh, I am all for a free exchange of ideas, when they come from the Twilight Zone I choose to press noise to mute the stupidity. Yes Slac, her ideas would be economic suicide for me, she wants nothing more than to tear down all and build a kumbaya commune. I listened to her, read her proposals and found them wanting at best economically juvenile at worst. SO feel free to dismiss her as just a freshman Congress woman, she has just begun the Long March.

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Black, brown, yellow, white or a purple...


Sep 13, 2019, 1:48 PM [ in reply to There is really just no point in trying to downplay the ]

people eater she is a flipdizzy-dingbat who lacks not only common sense but the common highschool civics and history education too. If she has an IQ above 110 I give her an A+ for keeping it hidden.

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Re: Interesting superpowers you have there.....


Sep 13, 2019, 2:40 PM [ in reply to Interesting superpowers you have there..... ]

So you don't think there are any Americans at all who believe that?

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That question is a complete non-sequitur.


Sep 13, 2019, 2:48 PM

He painted the entire Republican party with that accusation...read the sentence before the line I quoted in his original post. There may be some that do, but it sure isn't a majority, much less the entire party.

And what a presumptuous, sanctimonious, and condescending thing to imply, that this Asian lady is some useful idiot being propped by a party of racists against AOC. I've heard her speak many times....she's intelligent, articulate, and appears to fully believe in her message. She's no puppet.

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Re: That question is a complete non-sequitur.


Sep 13, 2019, 2:50 PM

I agree you can't paint the whole GOP with that, but I would wager there are Americans ranking in the millions who would agree with the line after that.

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Oh, and slight point of order.


Sep 13, 2019, 2:51 PM [ in reply to That question is a complete non-sequitur. ]

It's not a non sequitur since that's the line you quoted.

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Nerd.


Sep 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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LOL.***


Sep 13, 2019, 4:27 PM



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Re: And this is why the Republicans are shooting themselves...


Sep 13, 2019, 4:56 PM

Go full socialism...and watch your choices taken away.

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Dayum...what a thread...


Sep 13, 2019, 10:38 PM

Vitriol City!

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