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Citizenship status and census
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Citizenship status and census


Jul 15, 2019, 7:00 AM

I can’t speak for Trump, but in my opinion it’s not his vision of “white america” as some believe, It is more of holding people accountable and collecting viable data to let American taxpaying citizens know where their tax money and healthcare premiums are going.

As for myself, I would like to know how many illegals as well as lazy Americans I am paying for in my healthcare premiums, especially when I pay $1000/ month for healthcare and still get told by the pharmacy that the prescription from the Dr. has been denied by the insurance company.

Pardon my French, but I want to know where my money and sh@t goes. Is is wrong for me to know where and whom my money is allocated to? As tax paying Americans, do you not think it would be a right to know where our money is allocated? That is the same reason why we went to war with England in 1765.

Every single company in the United States ask the question of citizenship status on job applications (it doesn’t necessarily mean they abide by it). So if it is okay for companies to ask the question, why not the U.S government in the form of census?


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Jul 15, 2019, 7:03 AM

The discussion begins and ends with the electoral college. House seats are assigned based on figures collected in census.

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It's going to the insurance industry. $Billion$ & $Billion$


Jul 15, 2019, 7:08 AM

of profit annually....

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Re: It's going to the insurance industry. $Billion$ & $Billion$


Jul 15, 2019, 8:37 AM

Hate to disagree with you. Insurance is not a zero sum game, they must earn a profit in order to stay in business. I have a friend who just had a triple by-pass and after his out of pocket expenses the total cost will probably be well over 150 k.

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Jul 15, 2019, 7:10 AM

The right to vote, just one more benefit that illegals have stolen. Thank you, liberals

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Jul 15, 2019, 8:18 AM

RINO'S like Sen.Graham(& his mentor the late KING RINO, JMcCain) are guilty as well, of treason. President Donald Trump is the first sitting President to actually attack this problem, the support he recieves from the Republican Party is f cking cowardly at best. President Trump's proactive policies, across the board, have erased/offset a significant # of Barry's INTENTIONAL screw-ups /sabotage & indirectly exposed neocon GWBUSH as a pos puppet, whose image is enhanced because the Democratic Party is below the sewer level in terms of filth, corruption, deception, etcetora. Thank you, for a worthy effort President Trump!

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Jul 15, 2019, 7:13 AM

I'm 100% behind you and have the same questions. IMO, the politicians don't want the government or the people to know the correct population because the voting districts could change, federal funding be decreased and voter fraud exposed.

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or they'd work overtime on the next gerrymandering session.***


Jul 15, 2019, 7:16 AM



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census


Jul 15, 2019, 8:23 AM

YWIA

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Why is this posted here?


Jul 15, 2019, 8:34 AM



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A great subject for P&R board


Jul 15, 2019, 8:41 AM

Despite that fact, you've earned a TD for posting on the football board.

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Jul 15, 2019, 9:01 AM


I can’t speak for Trump, but in my opinion it’s not his vision of “white america” as some believe, It is more of holding people accountable and collecting viable data to let American taxpaying citizens know where their tax money and healthcare premiums are going.

As for myself, I would like to know how many illegals as well as lazy Americans I am paying for in my healthcare premiums, especially when I pay $1000/ month for healthcare and still get told by the pharmacy that the prescription from the Dr. has been denied by the insurance company.

Pardon my French, but I want to know where my money and sh@t goes. Is is wrong for me to know where and whom my money is allocated to? As tax paying Americans, do you not think it would be a right to know where our money is allocated? That is the same reason why we went to war with England in 1765.

Every single company in the United States ask the question of citizenship status on job applications (it doesn’t necessarily mean they abide by it). So if it is okay for companies to ask the question, why not the U.S government in the form of consensus?



Good God.

"Illegals" and "lazy Americans" don't have your effin' money, dude. Take your misplaced rage and put it where it belongs.

You know who has your money? Google. Amazon. Verizon. The oil companies - BP/Shell/Exxon. The insurance companies - Aetna, Blue Cross/Blue Shield. Big Pharma - mostly three main companies, all so big literally nobody knows actually how big. Koch Industries - which is so big, by the way, it's known as the "Kochtupus", it has so many subsidiaries and smaller companies under its umbrella. Oh, and the banks and investment groups. Goldman Sachs. Blackstone.

It's not complicated. The problem isn't "rich people". The problem is billionaires, which are an entirely different animal. They have so much wealth that wealth literally re-writes laws wherever these people live to benefit them. Amazon founder Jeff Bezos was (until his recent divorce, anyhow) was worth $150 billion...and yet he got a federal refund of $129 million back. And half his employees were on food stamps.

How many small businesses has Amazon destroyed again? How many stores has Bezos put out of business?

Right now the debate is moronoic; the GOP - of which I am a registered member, by the way - is trying to convince people that the only two choices are capitalism or socialism.

Bull. That isn't the argument, and never has been. The real argument right now is going on between the mega-corps and democracy. Who rules this country - big business, or We The People?

So go on and rage at Johnny Mexican. But he doesn't have your money. Jeff Bezos does. Mark Zuckerberg does. Charles and David Koch do. Jeffrey Epstein does.

They would like to convince you that "there is nothing wrong with making money." This is true. I'd very much like to be rich myself.

The problem is, when you get to a certain level of rich, you become so rich nobody can compete with you, because you can crush them in a million different ways: by burying them in incessant legal battles they can't afford. By making sure their suppliers won't sell to you, because they called up those suppliers and informed them that if they sell to you - the little fish - then Amazon.com will no longer sell their products. Or they'll buy a politician to get your product taxed to extinction or declared illegal or buried in so many regulations you simply can't operate. Whatever - they can crush you before you even get the chance to compete. That's the opposite of the "free market" the current GOP leadership pretends to worship.

That isn't "free market capitalism", by the way. That's economic conquest, and why the word "monopoly" has always been so dangerous to the concept of actual democracy. But the mega-corps are completely out of hand right now. Need proof? They sold you - and touch - literally every product you own, touch, or use. That's who has your money.

What do illegal immigrants have to do with any of this?

Well, almost nothing. Mostly they serve as convincing whipping boys to get people all worked up, divided, and distracted...while the guys in charge stuff their pockets like a bunch of ten-year-olds looting the candy store.

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Re: Citizenship status and consensus


Jul 15, 2019, 9:38 AM

Epic post. Nice to see someone who is still firmly planted in the real world on here.

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Jul 15, 2019, 10:00 AM [ in reply to Re: Citizenship status and consensus ]

A lot of truths in there. While we little fish continue to squabble over manufactured crises, our corporatocracy hums right along.

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Was going to respond with a retort rooted in actual


Jul 15, 2019, 10:06 AM [ in reply to Re: Citizenship status and consensus ]

economics vs off the cuff-rage, but then saw that this was a mange dump-out.

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Jul 15, 2019, 12:15 PM [ in reply to Re: Citizenship status and consensus ]

I agree that large corporations ( billionaires) have our money but that is a decision to be made by myself whether or not I give them money, but proportionately the main reason and the only reason for our healthcare and tax increase is to individuals who refuse to pay into healthcare and taxes (Lazy Americans and illegals).

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