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The problem isn't declaring a national emergency
Feb 15, 2019, 1:01 PM
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It's declaring an emergency when there's clearly no "emergency" other than Congress not doing what you want.
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^^^ exactly. An emergency when something happened
Feb 15, 2019, 1:06 PM
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and money needs to be diverted quickly to an unforeseen circumstance.
Like Flint.
An emergency is not something we have hum hauled around for months and now that I can't get what I want I'm going around Congress to do it.
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My problem is...
Feb 15, 2019, 1:08 PM
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this is actually a more constitutional version of what Obama did with DACA and DAPA. But, of course, the only people who said anything about it were conservatives. You can see how that might make some people who would normally object to this decide not to say anything.
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Re: The problem isn't declaring a national emergency
Feb 15, 2019, 1:33 PM
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Lol yeah 1000 illegal immigrants a day is not a security issue. American deaths caused by repeat illegal alien offenders, many having been deported for felonies that simply strolled right back in. Gimme a friggin break, there’s more news articles on these incidents than I can count.
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Re: Obama declared 13 national emergencies. 11 still in effect.
Feb 15, 2019, 1:04 PM
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I assume these were actual emergencies that required us to remove layers of bureaucracy to solve an actual crisis.
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The outrage isn't going to be over just declaring
Feb 15, 2019, 1:05 PM
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an emergency. The controversy is about what the topic of the declared emergency is.
Most of the emergencies that have been declared over the years are over topics that are relatively obscure for the general populace, so it nobody really cared.
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They were also things that required an immediate response
Feb 15, 2019, 1:10 PM
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And which didn't involve any opposition. As you pointed out, many have to deal with sanctions against foreign governments or dealing with foreign threats. So they weren't just obscure issues, they were uncontroversial issues "of emergence."
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How is the water in Flint Michigan a national emergency?
Feb 15, 2019, 1:36 PM
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Do we have national emergencies when hurricanes take out a coastline or the OBX?
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This article is not accurate if it says that President Obama
Feb 15, 2019, 1:40 PM
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declared a national emergency about Flint, MI.
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That's a completely different thing.***
Feb 15, 2019, 3:32 PM
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That's a mechanism for getting FEMA funds to
Feb 15, 2019, 3:34 PM
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a location, not for allowing the President emergency powers to do things.
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Oculus Spirit [80977]
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I did quick google, and could not find when a hurricane
Feb 15, 2019, 1:53 PM
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was ever declared a national emergency. Can you help me out with that?
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It has never happened.***
Feb 15, 2019, 3:35 PM
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This is insane, tribalist drivel.
Feb 15, 2019, 1:53 PM
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Both parties are destroying liberty and as long as the other is doing it... its ok.
Both major party adherents are enemies of the Constitution. Essentially a coup to replace the laws with party control.
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