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Let's pretend The Tigers weren't the defending Natty Champs,
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Let's pretend The Tigers weren't the defending Natty Champs,


Sep 20, 2019, 11:38 AM

hadn't been to the playoffs multi-times, and came into the year ranked - let's say #23.

Would The Tigers have a chance in heck of making the playoff this year - even if we went undefeated? Conceivably, only 1 Top 25 win (maybe 0, if A&M turns out to be overrated)...

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i pretend things are BETTER, like we've won 60 in a row***


Sep 20, 2019, 11:44 AM



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Re: Let's pretend The Tigers weren't the defending Natty Champs,


Sep 20, 2019, 11:48 AM

The only chance an undefeated (13-0), Power 5 team is getting left out of the playoff is if there are 4 other Power 5/Notre Dame teams.

So there is no chance that an undefeated Power 5 team will ever be left out of a 4 team playoff.

A terrible Iowa team was going to be in a few years ago until they got beat in the Big 10 title game.

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Re: Let's pretend The Tigers weren't the defending Natty Champs,


Sep 20, 2019, 12:13 PM

Let's say if 5 power 5 teams were undefeated and I am
including ND, one undeafted team would have to be left
out. That is if it is possible for 5 power 5 teams to
be undefeated.

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Re: Let's pretend The Tigers weren't the defending Natty Champs,


Sep 20, 2019, 12:17 PM

...which is the reason competing for a National Championship is not a goal for Clemson. It is...but it isn't. I know - confusing. But Clemson can't control what 13 people decide. So make the official goals about what you can control. The outcome of games.

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what if there are 10 undefeated teams and


Sep 20, 2019, 12:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Let's pretend The Tigers weren't the defending Natty Champs, ]

6 1 loss teams from the SEC

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ESPN would make the case for having 3 SEC teams in.***


Sep 20, 2019, 1:04 PM



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Re: Let's pretend The Tigers weren't the defending Natty Champs,


Sep 20, 2019, 12:50 PM [ in reply to Re: Let's pretend The Tigers weren't the defending Natty Champs, ]

I get that it is mathematically possible, but if you look at the history of college football it's really not.

I don't think there has ever been 5 undefeated power 5 teams heading into bowl games.

That's pretty low odds that it will happen in the near future.

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Yep


Sep 20, 2019, 11:49 AM

Has an undefeated P5 conference champion ever been left out?

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Win all of your games as a power 5 team and you're in.


Sep 20, 2019, 11:49 AM

It's why the 4 team playoff works.

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Add being in a conference in there. It is somewhat


Sep 20, 2019, 12:25 PM

conceivable that Notre Dame could go undefeated and miss the playoffs. (That would probably not be the case this year, as with an undefeated record, they would have beaten the #2 team in the mighty SEC, as well as the probable #2 team in the ACC in Virginia, as well as a decent Pac 12 team in USC, etc.)

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I think if Clemson had been a mediocre team recently but


Sep 20, 2019, 1:40 PM [ in reply to Win all of your games as a power 5 team and you're in. ]

came out of nowhere to go undefeated and win the ACC - we would very possibly be left out (because of our apparently weak schedule this year). Any 1-loss SEC team would get in ahead of us.

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I went deep inside myself, but we were still National Champs


Sep 20, 2019, 12:03 PM

I just can't do it.

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Yes.***


Sep 20, 2019, 12:51 PM



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Sep 20, 2019, 12:58 PM

Undefeated, 13-0 Power 5 conference champs AND an undefeated, 12-0 Notre Dame will be the day the Irish will have to fold their tent and join. If the CFP EVER tries to justify putting ND in over a team that has to RISK its' own 12-0 season simply for inclusion is the day the process crumbles in an 10.0 temblor.

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Re: Let's pretend The Tigers weren't the defending Natty Champs,


Sep 20, 2019, 1:01 PM

We would be a lock to go to the playoff
If we went undefeated no matter what.

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Seems like a good waste of a pretend***


Sep 20, 2019, 1:06 PM



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Re: Let's pretend The Tigers weren't the defending Natty Champs,


Sep 20, 2019, 1:08 PM

Was thinking this myself. It's not inconceivable given the lack of support the rest of our conference is giving us in the polls this year that we would be left out in favor of a 1-loss P5 conference champion. Thankfully, we have earned the college football world's respect and this is not an issue

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Yep. I'm basically wondering, without our street cred, if


Sep 20, 2019, 1:36 PM

our schedule would be bad enough to prevent us getting in...

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So let's pretend we are anyone other than Clemson in the ACC***


Sep 20, 2019, 1:41 PM



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